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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 3 @ 4:50 PM ET
Pittsburgh needs D-men right now. Maybe Bieksa for Crosby, Neal and a 1st?
- KB3Point0

Meh
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jan 3 @ 4:52 PM ET
While Bieksa may be Tort's "gunslinger" and a witty post-game interview, he is someone I wouldn't mind MG packaging to acquire some top 6 scoring depth. I'm not sure if he has a NTC or not, but I would guess the market is fairly good for a quality RH defenseman.

I know he can show up for big games and provide a timely goal now and then, but it just seems that now when he takes chances it costs us more often than not. He tries to make the cute play instead of the safe or right play and gets caught deep in the offensive zone.

What would Bieksa + Gaunce or Jensen bring back?

ps... time to give Kassian a shot with the Sedins. The Hansen experiment is a bust.

- we_are_all_canucks

Canucks need his grit - trade Edler.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jan 3 @ 5:41 PM ET
Ten grande for Lupul. Way to show him shanny!
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 3 @ 5:55 PM ET
Ten grande for Lupul. Way to show him shanny!
- vancity787

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 3 @ 6:01 PM ET
Canucks would have to include a third rounder and David Booth. He'd be the real key to the deal, a la Dave Gagner.
- YeOldTimer

Dave "the key to this trade" Gagner! F*ck me Burke is an bumhole!!!
Troutback
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Outback
Joined: 10.23.2011

Jan 3 @ 6:03 PM ET
I say keep Tanev. People are speculating that he'll get the 4.6 mil D salary like right meow.

He's a D man that is on pace for a 24 point season. I don't think he'll end up with 8 goals. 6 maybe. Has a muffin of a shot and won't see PP time.

He might crack 2 mil at the end of the season. Might be 2.5 without a NTC...

Bieksa needs to stay - he has an underrated ability to keep the puck in the O zone. Plus he's got character and the only nasty D man on the roster. He leaves and what little truculence the canucks have is gone too.

Trade for a D like Ron Hainsey or something at the deadline for depth. Maybe Talinder if management is feeling saucy.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jan 3 @ 6:06 PM ET
Ten grande for Lupul. Way to show him shanny!
- vancity787

I was expecting 2 to 3 games. But I'm happy happy happy.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jan 3 @ 6:17 PM ET
Ten grande for Lupul. Way to show him shanny!
- vancity787

Grande? Did they fine him in pasõs?
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jan 3 @ 6:19 PM ET
I was expecting 2 to 3 games. But I'm happy happy happy.
- Yeti1181

Hey Phil, calm down jack..hey that's what just happens.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 3 @ 6:20 PM ET
Dave "the key to this trade" Gagner! F*ck me Burke is an bumhole!!!
- Marwood

Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 3 @ 6:22 PM ET
I say keep Tanev. People are speculating that he'll get the 4.6 mil D salary like right meow.

He's a D man that is on pace for a 24 point season. I don't think he'll end up with 8 goals. 6 maybe. Has a muffin of a shot and won't see PP time.

He might crack 2 mil at the end of the season. Might be 2.5 without a NTC...

Bieksa needs to stay - he has an underrated ability to keep the puck in the O zone. Plus he's got character and the only nasty D man on the roster. He leaves and what little truculence the canucks have is gone too.

Trade for a D like Ron Hainsey or something at the deadline for depth. Maybe Talinder if management is feeling saucy.

- Troutback

I agree with this post but can we leave the "truculence" word out of the canucks team
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jan 3 @ 6:22 PM ET
I say keep Tanev. People are speculating that he'll get the 4.6 mil D salary like right meow.

He's a D man that is on pace for a 24 point season. I don't think he'll end up with 8 goals. 6 maybe. Has a muffin of a shot and won't see PP time.

He might crack 2 mil at the end of the season. Might be 2.5 without a NTC...

Bieksa needs to stay - he has an underrated ability to keep the puck in the O zone. Plus he's got character and the only nasty D man on the roster. He leaves and what little truculence the canucks have is gone too.

Trade for a D like Ron Hainsey or something at the deadline for depth. Maybe Talinder if management is feeling saucy.

- Troutback


NTC should not even be mentioned. Too many on the team now. You have to have some tradeable assets.


I like your numbers for him- around 2mil. Everyone back there can't make 4mil per. - we need the bargain price over achieving guys like him and Stanton now. I would have no issue with trading a 4mil D for a top 6 forward if possible.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jan 3 @ 6:34 PM ET
I say keep Tanev. People are speculating that he'll get the 4.6 mil D salary like right meow.

He's a D man that is on pace for a 24 point season. I don't think he'll end up with 8 goals. 6 maybe. Has a muffin of a shot and won't see PP time.

He might crack 2 mil at the end of the season. Might be 2.5 without a NTC...

Bieksa needs to stay - he has an underrated ability to keep the puck in the O zone. Plus he's got character and the only nasty D man on the roster. He leaves and what little truculence the canucks have is gone too.

Trade for a D like Ron Hainsey or something at the deadline for depth. Maybe Talinder if management is feeling saucy.

- Troutback


Those numbers would get him 49 million over 7 years in Toronto.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 3 @ 6:38 PM ET

Carol, if you still follow the posts after blogging can you answer a question (although I think I know)? Is your ranking based solely on how each performs with the canucks or do you also rank them against d-men through-out the NHL? If within the canucks organization I agree with most. Might be a little generous with some, basically because of the way they Benny Hill a tight game late in the 3rd.

What do you think about comparing canuck players against other teams players in the same positions? I think it would make for interesting discussion from posters of all teams.

Troutback
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Outback
Joined: 10.23.2011

Jan 3 @ 6:44 PM ET
NTC should not even be mentioned. Too many on the team now. You have to have some tradeable assets.


I like your numbers for him- around 2mil. Everyone back there can't make 4mil per. - we need the bargain price over achieving guys like him and Stanton now. I would have no issue with trading a 4mil D for a top 6 forward if possible.

- hillbillydeluxe


After I posted I thought I'd look at comparable D-men. I started with Alzner who makes 2.8 for the next 4 or 5. I figure he'd be a high end comparable for Tanev. Then I got bored and did something else. but any more than that and ship him.

I know the nucks need a top 6 forward, but recent injuries to the blue line show that D depth isn't so deep. After Corrado there's nada. And Alberts/Weber I'd prefer to be 8th D men, not 7. Need Aaron Rome type.

Besides Horvat will be a call up come playoff time.

Troutback
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Outback
Joined: 10.23.2011

Jan 3 @ 6:46 PM ET
I agree with this post but can we leave the "truculence" word out of the canucks team
- Bieksa#3

Echoes of Brian Burke. I make no promises for the future use of this word. I also might drive Tanev to the airport if he's looking for over 2.6.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 3 @ 7:00 PM ET
Echoes of Brian Burke. I make no promises for the future use of this word. I also might drive Tanev to the airport if he's looking for over 2.6.
- Troutback

Perhaps I will give you the bobby Ryan treatment sir
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 3 @ 7:09 PM ET
After I posted I thought I'd look at comparable D-men. I started with Alzner who makes 2.8 for the next 4 or 5. I figure he'd be a high end comparable for Tanev. Then I got bored and did something else. but any more than that and ship him.

I know the nucks need a top 6 forward, but recent injuries to the blue line show that D depth isn't so deep. After Corrado there's nada. And Alberts/Weber I'd prefer to be 8th D men, not 7. Need Aaron Rome type.

Besides Horvat will be a call up come playoff time.

- Troutback

Personally I like Weber
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 3 @ 7:15 PM ET
Gillis said yesterday no one is available throughout the league. Everyone is looking for a top 6 forward. Booth anyone
Troutback
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Outback
Joined: 10.23.2011

Jan 3 @ 7:16 PM ET
Personally I like Weber
- Bieksa#3

If you could squish Alberts and Weber into one player it would almost be perfect.

Jury is out on Weber. Dmen always take forever to figure out a new system/partners. Once they figure it out they're alright and then by the end of the season they flourish.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 3 @ 7:16 PM ET
Gillis said yesterday no one is available throughout the league. Everyone is looking for a top 6 forward. Booth anyone
- VANTEL

Exactly. Hansen anybody
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 3 @ 9:09 PM ET
Personally I like Weber
- Bieksa#3

When did you meet him?
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 3 @ 9:16 PM ET
When did you meet him?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Weber is a very common name where I live.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 3 @ 9:27 PM ET
Weber is a very common name where I live.
- Bieksa#3

I know what you mean, half the people on my street are named Heyyou.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 3 @ 9:33 PM ET
I know what you mean, half the people on my street are named Heyyou.
- A_SteamingLombardi

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