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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Game Day: January 4 at Los Angeles, Grading the Forwards
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:29 PM ET
I didn't have Ladd on the first line I had the tougher younger more talented Simmonds on the first
- VANTEL


So you want Sedin Sedin Simmonds...

Brings back memories.
2 brothers and a brother.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:29 PM ET
As of right now, the Canucks have $61m committed to 17 players for next season. That leaves only $10m (projected) for 6 players. This includes:

Booth's $4.25m and Corrado in the lineup on the final year of his ELC.

- 1970vintage

Booth is as good as gone, or he should be IMO.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:29 PM ET
So you want Sedin Sedin Simmonds...

Brings back memories.
2 brothers and a brother.

- Scooby_Doo

poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:30 PM ET
As of right now, the Canucks have $61m committed to 17 players for next season. That leaves only $10m (projected) for 6 players. This includes:

Booth's $4.25m and Corrado in the lineup on the final year of his ELC.

- 1970vintage

Most of those spots are filler spots. Bottom 6 guys. Not to mention if they make a move for someone and ship out Edler thats money out for money in.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:30 PM ET
Dany Hank Burrows
Ladd Santo Kesler
Higgins Horvat Kassian
Sestito Richardson Archy

I'd be happy with this next year

- LeftCoaster

Burrows is now Hansen but older and more expensive.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:30 PM ET
So you want Sedin Sedin Simmonds...

Brings back memories.
2 brothers and a brother.

- Scooby_Doo

poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:31 PM ET
So you want Sedin Sedin Simmonds...

Brings back memories.
2 brothers and a brother.

- Scooby_Doo

LOL. I think I pee'd a little. I thank you for that.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:31 PM ET
Booth is as good as gone, or he should be IMO.
- LeftCoaster


Booth and Kassian have been okay together. They just need a solid centre other than Richardson. Santo played a bit with them last night, and that could be an okay third line.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:31 PM ET
Burrows is now Hansen but older and more expensive.
- VANTEL

Burrows does a lot of things really well for the club, he stays and Hansen goes IMO, Kassian can take the third line RW spot until he grows as a player. Which will happen one day.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:32 PM ET
All top lines have a passer ,a sniper and a person who makes space and protects . Do you see anything remotely close to that on Canucks?
- VANTEL


As it stands today I don't see the Canucks having 6 forwards that would be considered "top 6". I see 4 at best, three if you don't consider Burrows.

But imagine Ryan - Kesler - Eberle as a first line and Sedin's and Burrows as a second line. Yeah yeah, it's never going to happen, but that's the kind of quality I would consider necessary.

If Pittsburgh can afford Crosby, Malkin, Kunitz and Neale...
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:33 PM ET
Burrows is now Hansen but older and more expensive.
- VANTEL

Burrows hands and scoring I stints are day and night better then hansen
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:33 PM ET
Booth and Kassian have been okay together. They just need a solid centre other than Richardson. Santo played a bit with them last night, and that could been an okay third line.
- Scooby_Doo

Higgins Santorelli Kassian would be a good third line next year, but we need to fit Horvat in somehow?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:33 PM ET
Burrows does a lot of things really well for the club, he stays and Hansen goes IMO, Kassian can take the third line RW spot until he grows as a player. Which will happen one day.
- LeftCoaster


Burrows use to .
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:34 PM ET
Burrows hands and scoring I stints are day and night better then hansen
- Bieksa#3

Not this year
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:35 PM ET
Most of those spots are filler spots. Bottom 6 guys. Not to mention if they make a move for someone and ship out Edler thats money out for money in.
- poisondhearts37


You would be surprised...

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Kesler Hansen
Higgins ? Richardson
Sestito ? ?

Hamhuis Bieksa
Garrison Edler
Corrado Stanton

Booth, Hansen don't belong on the second line, Richardson doesn't belong on the third line. When you bump players down to the role they are most appropriate for, the holes are pretty significant.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:35 PM ET
All top lines have a passer ,a sniper and a person who makes space and protects . Do you see anything remotely close to that on Canucks?
- VANTEL



Take a gander around the league.

What you are suggesting is the prototypical #1 but not the norm
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:35 PM ET
Burrows hands and scoring I stints are day and night better then hansen
- Bieksa#3

Include Hansen in a package that includes Edler to Detroit for Nyquist, Tatar and a 1st.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
Horvat was unquestionably the best 2 way forward on the team.

And I agree on higgins

- Bieksa#3
????
Lazar was WAY better. At both ends. He started as canada's 3rd line checker and was it's best forward for most of the tourney. Didnt sutter say as much?

I suppose one can make an argument about 2 way play in relation to drouin, mantha etc. but he didnt make a huge impact anyway.
I was dissapointed.

Drouin, lazar, mantha, petan, reinhart were all better for the most part i thought.
Or more dangerous and made a bigger impact anyway.

U dont agree?
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
Not this year
- VANTEL

Ah yes, this is the only yr we should look at
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
Burrows use to .
- VANTEL

Broken foot and jaw, tough start to the year. What can you do?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
You would be surprised...

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Kesler Hansen
Higgins ? Richardson
Sestito ? ?

Hamhuis Bieksa
Garrison Edler
Corrado Stanton

Booth, Hansen don't belong on the second line, Richardson doesn't belong on the third line. When you bump players down to the role they are most appropriate for, the holes are pretty significant.

- 1970vintage

Line-up should be like this;

Dany Hank Burrows
??? Kesler ???
Higgins Santorelli Kassian
Sestito Richardson anybody but Weise
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:39 PM ET
Include Hansen in a package that includes Edler to Detroit for Nyquist, Tatar and a 1st.
- LeftCoaster


Been saying this for awhile. Hansen is the player that has the most value and is the easiest to replace internally. I like what he does, and wouldn't want to lose him but he is the type of player that, as an add on, cements a deal IMO.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:40 PM ET
Been saying this for awhile. Hansen is the player that has the most value and is the easiest to replace internally. I like what he does, and wouldn't want to lose him but he is the type of player that, as an add on, cements a deal IMO.
- 1970vintage

Agree
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:40 PM ET
Line-up should be like this;

Dany Hank Burrows
??? Kesler ???
Higgins Santorelli Kassian
Sestito Richardson anybody but Weise

- LeftCoaster


Yeah, maybe replace Sestito with a guy that can put it together a bit better.

Lets' say, just for fun, that the Canucks manage to move one of their $4m+ dmen for a legit top six forward, re-sign Tanev to a reasonable deal ($2m +/-) and then get a nice surprise next year from a guy like Shinkaruk. Add a couple of gritty legit 4th line players and it starts to look a lot better.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:42 PM ET
Broken foot and jaw, tough start to the year. What can you do?
- LeftCoaster


Sedins and burrows are well past their prime. Canucks are paying them too much for their production. Would be nice to trade burrows and bring in some young energy and similar player for half the price.
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