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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:42 PM ET
????
Lazar was WAY better. At both ends. He started as canada's 3rd line checker and was it's best forward for most of the tourney.

I suppose one can make an argument about 2 way play in relation to drouin, mantha etc. but he didnt make a huge impact anyway.
I was dissapointed.

Drouin, lazar, mantha, petan, reinhart were all better for the most part i thought.
Or more dangerous and made a bigger impact anyway.

U dont agree?

- hugefemale dog77

No I don't agree, and neither did the guys putting the players on the ice. Reinhart was awful. Brent constantly put him in position to succeed, yet looked slow and out of place for the majority of the tourny

Droulin, petan and mantha are awful players without the puck. TSN even said that mantha almost got cut because of hoe bad he is without the puck. Pet an constantly got out worked and outmustled in his own end.
Lazer is great but probably tops out as a 2nd/3rd liner, not much offensive upside. Horvat had his moments but again wasn't great. But there are 2 ends of the ice and most of the guys u mentioned are great at one and terrible at the other
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:42 PM ET
Include Hansen in a package that includes Edler to Detroit for Nyquist, Tatar and a 1st.
- LeftCoaster

I dont think Detroit even considers that deal. They really like those two forwards. They really want a RH dman. Bab's doesnt like all his leftys. Not to mention they have like 3 or 4 pretty damn good LH dman prospects. Plus thats alot of money going in and almost nothing coming out.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:43 PM ET
Yeah, maybe replace Sestito with a guy that can put it together a bit better.
- 1970vintage

He's played well last couple of games.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:43 PM ET
Yeah, maybe replace Sestito with a guy that can put it together a bit better.
- 1970vintage


What?
Sestito has been playing amazing. Canucks haven't had a guy like him for years. Every body check he throws is crunching.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:43 PM ET
I dont think Detroit even considers that deal. They really like those two forwards. They really want a RH dman. Bab's doesnt like all his leftys. Not to mention they have like 3 or 4 pretty damn good LH dman prospects. Plus thats alot of money going in and almost nothing coming out.
- poisondhearts37

Rumor has it they're very interested in Edler.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:44 PM ET
Rumor has it they're very interested in Edler.
- LeftCoaster

I think hes a guy that fits theyre kind of team. Money would have to come out with all that going theyre way.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:46 PM ET
????
Lazar was WAY better. At both ends. He started as canada's 3rd line checker and was it's best forward for most of the tourney. Didnt sutter say as much?

I suppose one can make an argument about 2 way play in relation to drouin, mantha etc. but he didnt make a huge impact anyway.
I was dissapointed.

Drouin, lazar, mantha, petan, reinhart were all better for the most part i thought.
Or more dangerous and made a bigger impact anyway.

U dont agree?

- hugefemale dog77

No lazer wasn't better, Horvat took way more important draws at both ends and was put on in far more critical spots on both sides of the ice.

Pet an, Droulin and mantha are absolutely awful players without the puck. Hell mantha almost got cut because of it dispite his o game.

I thought Sam Reinhart was by far the worst forward on the team. Continuely put in positions to score and shine and continuly looked out of place.
Ekblad showed in this tourny he's way better
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:47 PM ET
What?
Sestito has been playing amazing. Canucks haven't had a guy like him for years. Every body check he throws is crunching.

- Scooby_Doo


Ok, so three games a year he is amazing

Sestito doesn't make the same play that Nolan made last night to set up the game winner.

EDIT - plus his crunching body check last night landed him in the penalty box...
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:47 PM ET
I think hes a guy that fits theyre kind of team. Money would have to come out with all that going theyre way.
- poisondhearts37

Ya - I haven't looked at their cap situation.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:47 PM ET
Rumor has it they're very interested in Edler.
- LeftCoaster

It would be a disaster for Detroit to move both those kids. Datsyuk has 5 yrs left in him. Not all 5 can be at a high caliber. But it could. Zetter's 33 as well.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:47 PM ET
Ya - I haven't looked at their cap situation.
- LeftCoaster

They have like 1.2 mil available.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:47 PM ET
Ok, so three games a year he is amazing

Sestito doesn't make the same play that Nolan made last night to set up the game winner.

- 1970vintage

That was Dwight King I do believe, got him in my pool.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:48 PM ET
I dont think Detroit even considers that deal. They really like those two forwards. They really want a RH dman. Bab's doesnt like all his leftys. Not to mention they have like 3 or 4 pretty damn good LH dman prospects. Plus thats alot of money going in and almost nothing coming out.
- poisondhearts37

As per about a dozen diffent sites the canucks have had discussions with the wings about Edler within the last 2 weeks. Canucks asking for Tatar, Nyquist, Smith and 1st. Detroit is apparently hesitant about the pick
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:49 PM ET
That was Dwight King I do believe, got him in my pool.
- LeftCoaster


My bad. Still King $750k, Nolan $700k
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:49 PM ET
It would be a disaster for Detroit to move both those kids. Datsyuk has 5 yrs left in him. Not all 5 can be at a high caliber. But it could. Zetter's 33 as well.
- poisondhearts37

You think maybe the go all in while z and days are still there?
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:51 PM ET
As per about a dozen diffent sites the canucks have had discussions with the wings about Edler within the last 2 weeks. Canucks asking for Tatar, Nyquist, Smith and 1st. Detroit is apparently hesitant about the pick
- Bieksa#3

Thats crazy to me. If that is going to happen kudos to the Nucks Management. Edlers good. But thats alot. I feel Detroit cant afford to lose either of those forwards as they are going to be key guys I feel.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:52 PM ET
You think maybe the go all in while z and days are still there?
- Bieksa#3

I guess it still leaves them Frk, Jurco and Mantha. But the other two are NHL ready right now. Detroit could really use that youth in theyre line up. Like I said. If theyre only hesitant on the pick. I think its going to be a steal for the Nucks.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:53 PM ET
New blog is up...
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 1:55 PM ET
No lazer wasn't better, Horvat took way more important draws at both ends and was put on in far more critical spots on both sides of the ice.

Pet an, Droulin and mantha are absolutely awful players without the puck. Hell mantha almost got cut because of it dispite his o game.

I thought Sam Reinhart was by far the worst forward on the team. Continuely put in positions to score and shine and continuly looked out of place.
Ekblad showed in this tourny he's way better

- Bieksa#3

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
I thoughy lazar was canadas best forward in that tourney and horvat wasnt even in the top 4 or 5. And i was dissapointed cause i was so stoked for that 2nd line.
As far as the guys puttin them out; i know for sure sutter mentioned how great lazar was for them.
I dont know about nhl ceiling, but he was far better in this tourney i thought

And i realize the other guys i mentioned are scorers first. And its kind of apples and oranges. I just thought they made a bigger impact offensively than horvat did defensively. And bo's offensive contributions werent near what i expected.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jan 5 @ 1:55 PM ET
Will Sunday go better than Saturday?

The new blog is up:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=56956
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:55 PM ET
Ok, so three games a year he is amazing

Sestito doesn't make the same play that Nolan made last night to set up the game winner.

EDIT - plus his crunching body check last night landed him in the penalty box...

- 1970vintage


That was a great hit, bad call by the ref. that hit didn't cost them, I'll take that type of play all day long.
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Jan 5 @ 1:55 PM ET
As per about a dozen diffent sites the canucks have had discussions with the wings about Edler within the last 2 weeks. Canucks asking for Tatar, Nyquist, Smith and 1st. Detroit is apparently hesitant about the pick
- Bieksa#3


I say that's still a good deal for the Canucks, even without the pick. But that would also depend on what is going back the other way with Edler, there would have to be to make the contract numbers work.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:57 PM ET
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
I thoughy lazar was canadas best forward in that tourney and horvat wasnt even in the top 4 or 5. And i was dissapointed cause i was so stoked for that 2nd line.

And i realize the other guys i mentioned are scorers first. And its kind of apples and oranges. I just thought they made a bigger impact offensively than horvat did defensively. And bo's offensive contributions werent near what i expected.

- hugefemale dog77


I agree, but he wasn't put in the situation to be offensive. He'd come out with 20 seconds left on the pp every time. He was also playing with two young kids and had to be defensively responsible for that line.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 1:58 PM ET
I agree, but he wasn't put in the situation to be offensive. He'd come out with 20 seconds left on the pp every time. He was also playing with two young kids and had to be defensively responsible for that line.
- Scooby_Doo

Solid point.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 2:00 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/world_jrs/story/?id=440203
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