I'd do it but make the first top 5 protected or they get our 2015 first. We lose the trade in value but klefbom is 3+ years away from making an impact and defensive prospects is something we have plenty of
- patheticgirl43

And risk losing McDavid?

You take out klefboom and Gagner and a1st won't get you Yandle alone.
- Yeti1181

I like Yandle, but he's not a top 15-20 Dman in the league. Considering that 1st will be top 5, maybe top3, they shouldn't be asking for all that much

didn't mact state he wants someone still in the elc term in return? yandle doesn't fit the bill if that's the case.
- deks1

That's just stupid if he did say that. Most likely means we're gonna get someone young and inexperienced

I like Yandle, but he's not a top 15-20 Dman in the league. Considering that 1st will be top 5, maybe top3, they shouldn't be asking for all that much
- TheNugeIsHuge

I was thinking next year first not this year first.

I'd do it but make the first top 5 protected or they get our 2015 first. We lose the trade in value but klefbom is 3+ years away from making an impact and defensive prospects is something we have plenty of
- patheticgirl43

I don't mind slightly losing a trade that gives us a legit 1st pairing defenseman. Especially if it also gets us value back from Gagner. And if we make the pick top 5 protected then what motivation does Phoenix have in the trade?

I don't mind slightly losing a trade that gives us a legit 1st pairing defenseman. Especially if it also gets us value back from Gagner. And if we make the pick top 5 protected then what motivation does Phoenix have in the trade?
- Ihatebrianburke

Well, next season IS the McDavid (and Eichel and just overall a pretty deep) draft and the Oilers have a bad track record of making the playoffs so I could see it being s little more enticing.

With that having been said, I'd think they'd prefer this season's.

I like Yandle, but he's not a top 15-20 Dman in the league. Considering that 1st will be top 5, maybe top3, they shouldn't be asking for all that much
- TheNugeIsHuge

If we add Yandle the pick is going to climb out of the top 5 anyway. This is all classic Oiler fan thinking. Give us a 1st pairing defenseman, just don't ask us to give up anything significant to get it. Then complain that our defense sucks and we're still a bottom dweller because we won't give up our precious assets.

Well, next season IS the McDavid (and Eichel and just overall a pretty deep) draft and the Oilers have a bad track record of making the playoffs so I could see it being s little more enticing.

With that having been said, I'd think they'd prefer this season's.
- MaximumBone

I don't like your new avi. (frank) sweden!

If we add Yandle the pick is going to climb out of the top 5 anyway. This is all classic Oiler fan thinking. Give us a 1st pairing defenseman, just don't ask us to give up anything significant to get it. Then complain that our defense sucks and we're still a bottom dweller because we won't give up our precious assets.
- Ihatebrianburke

there's a difference between giving up something significant and overpaying out of the pocket of EDM's future

what if they don't climb out of the top 5? what if klefbom becomes a top 3 Dman someday and PHX takes a future 70+P player with the pick? Not to mention the hole at 2C

there's a difference between giving up something significant and overpaying out of the pocket of EDM's future

what if they don't climb out of the top 5? what if klefbom becomes a top 3 Dman someday and PHX takes a future 70+P player with the pick? Not to mention the hole at 2C
- TheNugeIsHuge

So you'd not make a trade because the player we get might regress and because a pick that we give up might score 70 points someday? Wow that's a lot of what ifs. We need to have some balls and make a move that improves this club.

I think it would be better if they stuck with their goalie plans instead of always jumping ship the moment one goalie plays not terrible.

Having said that I would point out Dub let in an absolute softie in the pens game and really shouldn't be considered to start this game no matter what.

Edmonton coaching/management staff are terrible to the goalies.

They never know when to pull them. Never know when to play them. Just plain bad judgement.

If winnipeg is blowing it up, how about Ladd, Buff and Kane for Gags Yaks Jultz and our first

Perron and Klefbom for Martin Jones and Klifford

I think it would be better if they stuck with their goalie plans instead of always jumping ship the moment one goalie plays not terrible.

Having said that I would point out Dub let in an absolute softie in the pens game and really shouldn't be considered to start this game no matter what.

Edmonton coaching/management staff are terrible to the goalies.

They never know when to pull them. Never know when to play them. Just plain bad judgement.
- Aerchon

I gotta disagree with you on this one. Sure Dubs let in one softie last game but he did get the win against a very good team. I think it would be a shot to his confidence if he didn't get a chance to win two in a row.

So you'd not make a trade because the player we get might regress and because a pick that we give up might score 70 points someday? Wow that's a lot of what ifs. We need to have some balls and make a move that improves this club.
- Ihatebrianburke

I think MacT's patience has nothing to do with lack of balls. He's just resisting the temptation to make a deal, any deal, just for the sake of doing a deal and trading future for the present to please the fans.

I don't think it's a huge "if" that a top 5 pick could be a future 65-70P guy.

Perron and Klefbom for Martin Jones and Klifford
- andymaury

Clifford has 5P and Smyth becomes the 2nd best LW without Perron.

I like the prospect of dealing for Jones, but he also only has 10.5 games under his belt and isn't worth a 1st round pick in klefbom and the difference between perron and clifford

I think it would be better if they stuck with their goalie plans instead of always jumping ship the moment one goalie plays not terrible.

Having said that I would point out Dub let in an absolute softie in the pens game and really shouldn't be considered to start this game no matter what.

Edmonton coaching/management staff are terrible to the goalies.

They never know when to pull them. Never know when to play them. Just plain bad judgement.
- Aerchon

ride a goalie when he's playing well. That Letang goal was pretty soft but he played solid the rest of the night

If winnipeg is blowing it up, how about Ladd, Buff and Kane for Gags Yaks Jultz and our first
- andymaury

They shouldve fired their goalie before they fired their coach. They're the only team in the league with worse starting goaltending than us. I would look into acquiring the rights to Burmistrov.

They shouldve fired their goalie before they fired their coach. They're the only team in the league with worse starting goaltending than us. I would look into acquiring the rights to Burmistrov.
- Ihatebrianburke

I think he has a contract in russia until 2015

Clifford has 5P and Smyth becomes the 2nd best LW without Perron.

I like the prospect of dealing for Jones, but he also only has 10.5 games under his belt and isn't worth a 1st round pick in klefbom and the difference between perron and clifford
- TheNugeIsHuge

I posted another trade right before this one that took care of LW

I think MacT's patience has nothing to do with lack of balls. He's just resisting the temptation to make a deal, any deal, just for the sake of doing a deal and trading future for the present to please the fans.

I don't think it's a huge "if" that a top 5 pick could be a future 65-70P guy.
- TheNugeIsHuge

So we should remain a bottom dweller for another 3,4,5 years waiting on a player that might become that player when they mature? That's (frank)ed. We need to starting winning now. Losing should be unacceptable and that culture should be changed before our young guns get sick of it and want out

If winnipeg is blowing it up, how about Ladd, Buff and Kane for Gags Yaks Jultz and our first
- andymaury

i question buff's will or work ethic. i don't think wpg is going to blow it up that big.

i question buff's will or work ethic. i don't think wpg is going to blow it up that big.
- deks1

The return is significant

So we should remain a bottom dweller for another 3,4,5 years waiting on a player that might become that player when they mature? That's (frank)ed. We need to starting winning now. Losing should be unacceptable and that culture should be changed before our young guns get sick of it and want out
- Ihatebrianburke

no. But you can make smarter deals. Remember when MTL traded young Mcdonagh in a deal for Scott gomez? MTL was better for a short bit in the ,then, present and gave up what could have been a huge piece of the future. Or how about 22YO Coburn for Zhitnik so that they could "win now". That turned out well. Should I mention dealing promising goalie prospect Rask for Raycroft?

There's a big difference between sitting on your ass while your team loses and not forcing trades that could backfire big time

i question buff's will or work ethic. i don't think wpg is going to blow it up that big.
- deks1

Even without those two things he puts up a lot of points, plays a ton of minutes, and WPG has control of the puck more when he's out there. I don't think they blow it up either. They just need a decent goalie and better depth players.