Paul Stewart: Slew Footing, Match Penalties and Aggressors

27 penalty minutes on 1 second of ice time. That has to be some sort of record by Tom "Fantasy Camp" Sestito.

That rule was big news from the Emery incident. How do pro's calling the game not know this?

Paul Stewart: Slew Footing, Match Penalties and Aggressors
- Paul Stewart

Question for you Paul, like the slew foot on Doughty, if a major goes uncalled by the referee can it be called by the linesman? Or do they just report it to the referee who makes the call?

Cool story bro.

Question for you Paul, like the slew foot on Doughty, if a major goes uncalled by the referee can it be called by the linesman? Or do they just report it to the referee who makes the call?
- FinAddict

Mentioned it in the blog. Here are the rules under 32.4 for when linesmen can stop play and when they must report an infraction after the play: http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26320

Mentioned it in the blog. Here are the rules under 32.4 for when linesmen can stop play and when they must report an infraction after the play: http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26320
- Paul Stewart

Sorry, just quickly skimmed through the blog, thanks

Yeah OK Paul. I'm sure in your illustrious career you never fought a scrub because they went after a skilled player.

Great explanation.

Slew footing aside, what are your thoughts on Doughty's attempted "pick" of Wiese? While Wiese could/should have been called on the slew foot, Doughty should have been called for interference.

BTW, intense game!

A little biased there Mr. Paul Stewart. Players go after other players for hits or attempted hits on Sedin all the time but you make it sound like it's a Canuck thing.

Also what do you think of Nolan attempting to slew Sedin on that hit - note that he went in knee high.

Great explanation.

Slew footing aside, what are your thoughts on Doughty's attempted "pick" of Wiese? While Wiese could/should have been called on the slew foot, Doughty should have been called for interference.

BTW, intense game!
- pmg2008

They both could have been called. However, one's a much more dangerous play than the other.

A little biased there Mr. Paul Stewart. Players go after other players for hits or attempted hits on Sedin all the time but you make it sound like it's a Canuck thing.

Also what do you think of Nolan attempting to slew Sedin on that hit - note that he went in knee high.
- docmorgan

Pretty sure only the Canucks would care about a hit on the Sedin's. I don't know how you would categorize that as anything other than "a Canuck thing." I doubt it's a Bruin's thing, or a Maple Leafs thing, or any other team's thing, as they could care less whether or not a Sedin gets hit.

A little biased there Mr. Paul Stewart.
- docmorgan

In all fairness he was trained to be biased by the NHL for 17 years. Cant teach an old dog new tricks.

Yeah OK Paul. I'm sure in your illustrious career you never fought a scrub because they went after a skilled player.
- golfingsince

No, I fought tough guys who were the front line and only the top enforcers on their teams.

I dinged a guy once who was below my level: Tim Sanche, former Medicine Hat Tiger, and then playing for Syracuse Blazers after he hit my teammate, Randy Macgregor with a stick, cut him and tried to run away. So I smacked him but then I had to fight their top tough guy, Blake Ball, who was 6-5 and also played in Slap Shot.

If I had played last night in that LA van game in the way the game was played in the old-school days, I would have checked this guy every time he touched the puck, yapped at him, emasculated him in his teammates' eyes, and shown him up as a coward, even followed him to the bench. That would have made him come to fight me or lose face to the point he'd be done in the league: either way, objective accomplished.

A little biased there Mr. Paul Stewart. Players go after other players for hits or attempted hits on Sedin all the time but you make it sound like it's a Canuck thing.

Also what do you think of Nolan attempting to slew Sedin on that hit - note that he went in knee high.
- docmorgan

1) Why would non-Canucks players go after other players for hits/attempted runs on a Sedin? I'm sure Daniel and Henrik are great guys and all, but that seems a bit extreme . In all seriousness, yes, it is part of today's game that no one can hit another team's best player anymore without having to fight. I don't like it, but that is a way the game has changed.

2) I was never trained nor would I accept being biased. After the death of John McCauley I clashed with the guys running show in NHL officiating -- including Messrs. Campbell and Walkom -- because I refused to kowtow. I never bent over for anybody or any team in my life, and I won't now. My loyalty is to the game.

Even The KHL Chairman, Mr. Timchenko and The KHL President, Mr. Medvedev, have come know and appreciate that, as does the ECAC Commissioner, Steve Hagwell. Chew on that for a while or ask any of my brother Officials. While you are at it, ask NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly.

Sometimes, I may have had more guts than brains because I didn't and wouldn't play their game. When people would ask me what team I like, my answer was always "I like 'em all."

I am not watching the laundry. I see the game.

Typical. Take a look only at a tiny, carefully cropped video clip designed to sensationalize and then spout of your indignation when you come to the desired conclusion. Did Wiese's leg sweep Doughty's legs out from underneath him? Absolutely. But if you actually watched the play you'd have seen that Doughty initiated the illegal contact and embellished the result as he always does. To come up with the statement that it was a dirty, deliberate and dangerous action on Wiese's part is ridiculous. How about considering the laws of physics once in a while?

NHL loves suspending Canucks and does so at every opportunity. No matter how pathetic the infraction was. The fact they didn't on this play kinda proves you wrong.

I also love the double-standard that hardly anyone is talking about how Doughty's Hollywood acting classes are paying off. This fool routinely makes out like he's been maimed and then demonstrates that the supposed infraction had no effect on him whatsoever once he realizes he's not getting the call he had hoped for. Not a peep about that. Yet the Kings have the reputation of being a tough team and the Canucks are known divers. Right. Pays to play for a big US TV market team I suppose.

On another note, Kerry Fraser disagrees with you on the whole Nolan charging on Henrik Sedin thing.

"Tom Sestito only lasted a second on his first shift of the game for speed bagging Jordan Nolan who, by the way, should have been penalized for charging Henrik Sedin. A timely penalty call against Nolan would have been a perfect opportunity for the refs to send a message of their own in an effort to establish some control and to bring the temperature down early. It was a 'gift' handed to the men in stripes that was ultimately rejected! It became a constant uphill battle for them from that point in the game."

Typical. Take a look only at a tiny, carefully cropped video clip designed to sensationalize and then spout of your indignation when you come to the desired conclusion. Did Wiese's leg sweep Doughty's legs out from underneath him? Absolutely. But if you actually watched the play you'd have seen that Doughty initiated the illegal contact and embellished the result as he always does. To come up with the statement that it was a dirty, deliberate and dangerous action on Wiese's part is ridiculous. How about considering the laws of physics once in a while?

NHL loves suspending Canucks and does so at every opportunity. No matter how pathetic the infraction was. The fact they didn't on this play kinda proves you wrong.

I also love the double-standard that hardly anyone is talking about how Doughty's Hollywood acting classes are paying off. This fool routinely makes out like he's been maimed and then demonstrates that the supposed infraction had no effect on him whatsoever once he realizes he's not getting the call he had hoped for. Not a peep about that. Yet the Kings have the reputation of being a tough team and the Canucks are known divers. Right. Pays to play for a big US TV market team I suppose.

On another note, Kerry Fraser disagrees with you on the whole Nolan charging on Henrik Sedin thing.

"Tom Sestito only lasted a second on his first shift of the game for speed bagging Jordan Nolan who, by the way, should have been penalized for charging Henrik Sedin. A timely penalty call against Nolan would have been a perfect opportunity for the refs to send a message of their own in an effort to establish some control and to bring the temperature down early. It was a 'gift' handed to the men in stripes that was ultimately rejected! It became a constant uphill battle for them from that point in the game."
- YeOldTimer

1) It was a borderline charge, but Sedin avoided the contact. Nolan missed him, and made himself look pretty foolish.

2) Speaking of the laws of physics, I suggest you look at the construction of a hockey skate. When Doughty's leg got slew footed, he ended up on the back edge of his skate rockers at about a 45 degree angle, which 100 times out of 100 causes a fall to the ice. No embellishment needed.

A little biased there Mr. Paul Stewart. Players go after other players for hits or attempted hits on Sedin all the time but you make it sound like it's a Canuck thing.

Also what do you think of Nolan attempting to slew Sedin on that hit - note that he went in knee high.
- docmorgan

Actually this is a typical Canuck thing.

If I had played last night in that LA van game in the way the game was played in the old-school days, I would have checked this guy every time he touched the puck, yapped at him, emasculated him in his teammates' eyes, and shown him up as a coward, even followed him to the bench. That would have made him come to fight me or lose face to the point he'd be done in the league: either way, objective accomplished.
- Paul Stewart

Sad thing is in todays NHL you would follow the guy to the bench then players like Marchand, Brown and Nolan would pat him on the back, laugh, pretend to kiss their rings and fake raising the cup. When you went out there to give them a shove after the whistle they would fall down a la Dave Doughty, rolling around and holding their head. Then the ref would give you your second 10 minute misconduct as well as a roughing call and your coach would staple you to the bench.

I miss the old school days too

Weise was just demonstrating what he learned from Dustin Brown from his how to Slew Foot Career. All three kings fans can now feel how the rest of the league feels when Brown is injuring other players.

They both could have been called. However, one's a much more dangerous play than the other.
- jmatchett383

Yup, the blindside pick by Doughty could have resulted in Weise being concussed.

On another note, Kerry Fraser disagrees with you on the whole Nolan charging on Henrik Sedin thing.

"Tom Sestito only lasted a second on his first shift of the game for speed bagging Jordan Nolan who, by the way, should have been penalized for charging Henrik Sedin. A timely penalty call against Nolan would have been a perfect opportunity for the refs to send a message of their own in an effort to establish some control and to bring the temperature down early. It was a 'gift' handed to the men in stripes that was ultimately rejected! It became a constant uphill battle for them from that point in the game."
- YeOldTimer

So Fraser would have given Nolan a penalty for running really hard into the boards? No wonder he is historically viewed as a terrible ref.

1) It was a borderline charge, but Sedin avoided the contact. Nolan missed him, and made himself look pretty foolish.

2) Speaking of the laws of physics, I suggest you look at the construction of a hockey skate. When Doughty's leg got slew footed, he ended up on the back edge of his skate rockers at about a 45 degree angle, which 100 times out of 100 causes a fall to the ice. No embellishment needed.
- Paul Stewart

That's a pretty good application of the laws of physics, by a history major nonetheless......

Attaboy Stew!

1) It was a borderline charge, but Sedin avoided the contact. Nolan missed him, and made himself look pretty foolish.

2) Speaking of the laws of physics, I suggest you look at the construction of a hockey skate. When Doughty's leg got slew footed, he ended up on the back edge of his skate rockers at about a 45 degree angle, which 100 times out of 100 causes a fall to the ice. No embellishment needed.
- Paul Stewart

1) Both Sestito and Kassian have been called multiple times for charging minors on that exact same type of play this year. And they weren't targeting a star player like the Sedins which Nolan has already done in recent games. Not that its illegal to hit star players, but I don't think we need to get into what happens in a hockey game when a 3rd or 4th liner deliberately runs at a first line player. Call the two minutes and keep the game on track.

2) Again, watch the whole play. Doughty makes illegal contact with Wiese while he's in stride. The laws of physics come into play in that Wiese's back leg is naturally going to come forward. The first impact is Doughty hitting Wiese's shoulder snapping him off balance. Wiese's leg follows through immediately and makes contact with the back of Doughty's leg causing him to fall. Rocker has nothing to do with it. It's more a cause and effect thing as a result of Doughty's illegal pick and not some dirty, pre-meditated attack by Wiese as you and others are suggesting.

1) Both Sestito and Kassian have been called multiple times for charging minors on that exact same type of play this year. And they weren't targeting a star player like the Sedins which Nolan has already done in recent games. Not that its illegal to hit star players, but I don't think we need to get into what happens in a hockey game when a 3rd or 4th liner deliberately runs at a first line player. Call the two minutes and keep the game on track.

2) Again, watch the whole play. Doughty makes illegal contact with Wiese while he's in stride. The laws of physics come into play in that Wiese's back leg is naturally going to come forward. The first impact is Doughty hitting Wiese's shoulder snapping him off balance. Wiese's leg follows through immediately and makes contact with the back of Doughty's leg causing him to fall. Rocker has nothing to do with it. It's more a cause and effect thing as a result of Doughty's illegal pick and not some dirty, pre-meditated attack by Wiese as you and others are suggesting.
- YeOldTimer

I had to go check that Wiese incident again after reading this account. You Canuck fans never cease to amaze when you defend the actions of your players. I can see a distinct kicking motion not the "follow through" you are suggesting. If this was a Canuck on the receiving end you would be calling out the lynch mob.