Paul I'd like to get your take on two incidents with the Isles last two games.

In colorado, Tavares was slewfooted in front of the net causing him to miss a tap in, no call.

In dallas, Tavares was about to tap in a pass for an easy goal when his stick was slashed in half. No call.

Is there a reason both of these plays happening right where the puck was, right in front of the net and costing the Isles two goals would have been deemed "correct non calls"?

1) Both Sestito and Kassian have been called multiple times for charging minors on that exact same type of play this year. And they weren't targeting a star player like the Sedins which Nolan has already done in recent games. Not that its illegal to hit star players, but I don't think we need to get into what happens in a hockey game when a 3rd or 4th liner deliberately runs at a first line player. Call the two minutes and keep the game on track.

2) Again, watch the whole play. Doughty makes illegal contact with Wiese while he's in stride. The laws of physics come into play in that Wiese's back leg is naturally going to come forward. The first impact is Doughty hitting Wiese's shoulder snapping him off balance. Wiese's leg follows through immediately and makes contact with the back of Doughty's leg causing him to fall. Rocker has nothing to do with it. It's more a cause and effect thing as a result of Doughty's illegal pick and not some dirty, pre-meditated attack by Wiese as you and others are suggesting.
- YeOldTimer

Are you high right now? You need to get a clue! Regardless of any recent history involving Brown/Doughty/Nolan/whomever, that was a textbook slewfoot. In fact, he made absolutely no attempt to hide it. In addition to being a dangerous play, it was an extremely stupid play in a close game. Any pathetic attempt by you or your ilk to explain it away with your creative interpretation of "Physics" is ludicrous and exposes you as a fraud. I totally get it if you don't like the play of Brown and Doughty -- many folks dont -- but puleeeeze!

2) Again, watch the whole play. Doughty makes illegal contact with Wiese while he's in stride. The laws of physics come into play in that Wiese's back leg is naturally going to come forward. The first impact is Doughty hitting Wiese's shoulder snapping him off balance. Wiese's leg follows through immediately and makes contact with the back of Doughty's leg causing him to fall. Rocker has nothing to do with it. It's more a cause and effect thing as a result of Doughty's illegal pick and not some dirty, pre-meditated attack by Wiese as you and others are suggesting.
- YeOldTimer

Wow...fancy words to describe a slew foot.

Ahhh Canuck fans......

No, I fought tough guys who were the front line and only the top enforcers on their teams.

I dinged a guy once who was below my level: Tim Sanche, former Medicine Hat Tiger, and then playing for Syracuse Blazers after he hit my teammate, Randy Macgregor with a stick, cut him and tried to run away. So I smacked him but then I had to fight their top tough guy, Blake Ball, who was 6-5 and also played in Slap Shot.

If I had played last night in that LA van game in the way the game was played in the old-school days, I would have checked this guy every time he touched the puck, yapped at him, emasculated him in his teammates' eyes, and shown him up as a coward, even followed him to the bench. That would have made him come to fight me or lose face to the point he'd be done in the league: either way, objective accomplished.
- Paul Stewart

Great story Paul!!
I miss the old days, too!!! Don't concern yourself with the biased morons. This is great stuff and much appreciated! As much as I love a great brawl that's part of the game, I agree that a cheap shot like slew footing needs to be dealt with severely. Only one issue. You mentioned that since Doughty didnt get hurt, there probably would be no suspension. It shouldn't take a serious injury to remove the cheap stuff from the game. Again, appreciate your views and keep up the good work!

2) Again, watch the whole play. Doughty makes illegal contact with Wiese while he's in stride. The laws of physics come into play in that Wiese's back leg is naturally going to come forward. The first impact is Doughty hitting Wiese's shoulder snapping him off balance. Wiese's leg follows through immediately and makes contact with the back of Doughty's leg causing him to fall. Rocker has nothing to do with it. It's more a cause and effect thing as a result of Doughty's illegal pick and not some dirty, pre-meditated attack by Wiese as you and others are suggesting.
- YeOldTimer

You also failed to point out when Weise physically pushed Doughty backwards over his foot.

Great read.

It was an entertaining game of hockey, though it was really nasty. It seemed like the referees had no control over the game despite handing out so many penalties. Perhaps if that charge on Sedin had been called at the start it might have settled everything down.

I find it hard to have sympathy for Doughty when he was flopping all over the ice last night. While this was definitely a slew foot, he and Dustin Brown seem to go down really easily on every shift. I'm really sick of diving, I wish the referees would start calling it (that dive by Quick in the 3rd period was ridiculous, I don't know how the referee doesn't call him for embellishment there).

Hey Stewart, I guess you missed Nolan's knee. Easy to do when you write a one sided piece like this. Yes it was a carry over from the game before. And why was that? Was someone named Brown involved? Dustin was saved by Kessler. He knows it. If the refs can't do the job, and that part of the game they'll never get right, let the players serve the justice due.

I guess it's easy to criticize Paul for this. But as a nucks fan I've seen just about every play this year. This was Nolan's 3rd time going for Henrik this year, he needed to receive a message and if the refs aren't going to do it & the corrupt board of discipline doesn't deal with a 4th liner trying to injure one of the top 40 players in the league, Tommy S. was in the right for doing what he did. As for Brown he crosses the line against us all the time, I wish Kass had done the same to him, but good on Kes for making it count. While the slew foot on doughty I felt had crossed the line I'm okay with that because the kings have a habit of going after our stars, a message had to be sent. The only thing I would have liked to see is Weise or archibald run Quick hard, be nice to trade an eye for an eye. I'm glad Torts fired the boys up

Paybacks a female dog, I don't care about the 2 points and the loss as long as it brings the team together & makes it known to other teams that we are not a doormat.

I guess it's easy to criticize Paul for this. But as a nucks fan I've seen just about every play this year. This was Nolan's 3rd time going for Henrik this year, he needed to receive a message and if the refs aren't going to do it & the corrupt board of discipline doesn't deal with a 4th liner trying to injure one of the top 40 players in the league, Tommy S. was in the right for doing what he did. As for Brown he crosses the line against us all the time, I wish Kass had done the same to him, but good on Kes for making it count. While the slew foot on doughty I felt had crossed the line I'm okay with that because the kings have a habit of going after our stars, a message had to be sent. The only thing I would have liked to see is Weise or archibald run Quick hard, be nice to trade an eye for an eye. I'm glad Torts fired the boys up

Paybacks a female dog, I don't care about the 2 points and the loss as long as it brings the team together & makes it known to other teams that we are not a doormat.
- I-own_da-Northwest

So you blatantly slew foot one of their top players. Seems like pretty sound logic to me

Nucks fans are getting quite the whiney reputation - seems well deserved.

So you blatantly slew foot one of their top players. Seems like pretty sound logic to me

Nucks fans are getting quite the whiney reputation - seems well deserved.
- BOSS_TWEED

So it was okay for Nolan to do it to Sedin the game before?

Seems like other fans get quite upset when the punching bag hits back.

Did you make a big deal of that one...did the media even show it? Were you aware or are you a hypocrite?

So it was okay for Nolan to do it to Sedin the game before?

Seems like other fans get quite upset when the punching bag hits back.

Did you make a big deal of that one...did the media even show it? Were you aware or are you a hypocrite?
- I-own_da-Northwest

You have a video of this slewfoot you're talking about? I didn't watch that game.

So it was okay for Nolan to do it to Sedin the game before?

Seems like other fans get quite upset when the punching bag hits back.

Did you make a big deal of that one...did the media even show it? Were you aware or are you a hypocrite?
- I-own_da-Northwest

1) Lets just clear this up: that play was a slew foot. It was not momentum carrying his right leg into the back of Doughty's legs as he pulled back on his upper body - or any other ridiculous excuse offered up ONLY by Nucks fans. The old saying applies: if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, guess what...it's a duck. Quite simply, it was a slew foot, which is among the dirtiest plays in Hockey.

2) I don't know what happened the game before and frankly don't care. I'm sure the Kings have done plenty of dirty/questionable things to the Nucks (and other W.C. rivals), and they should be properly handled as well. There are other ways to even the score. Grab doughty and start pounding away if you'd like, or better yet, level him with a clean hard check. Not only is what Weise did a dirty, pu$$y move, it is a stupid move since, in a 1-goal game, it could have (should have) resulted in a major/match penalty/game misconduct, which would have hurt his team. If Torts ordered that (and I'm not saying he did), then shame on him. Otherwise, that moron should have been stapled to the bench. If, like many Nucks fans suggest, the league and media have it in for the Canucks, that is not the way to remove focus from every Canuck transgression.

If this league is to ever be taken seriously, the first order of business is harsh, example-setting suspensions/penalties for such mindless behavior. Either that, or dropping the instigator rule. On merit, Weise should either be suspended or have had his face re-arranged for that move. There is no room for that nonsense.

I love the level of righteousness coming from the Van fans...isn't this the same team/city that:
1) rioted when they lost the Cup
2) had this famous biting incident in the Cup final (Burrows on Bergeron)
3) wanted Luongo run out of town
4) harassed Lucic's family, vandalized the church they attended, and attacked him in a bar recently

Got some rose-colored glasses up there in Vancouver.

A slew foot has no place in the NHL. Period. That goes for everyone including Crosby and Malkin who use it as a signature move.

Sad thing is in todays NHL you would follow the guy to the bench then players like Marchand, Brown and Nolan would pat him on the back, laugh, pretend to kiss their rings and fake raising the cup.
- coryberg2

well sedin 1 and 2 can pretend to kiss their rings too...oh wait...

I find it hard to have sympathy for Doughty when he was flopping all over the ice last night. While this was definitely a slew foot, he and Dustin Brown seem to go down really easily on every shift. I'm really sick of diving, I wish the referees would start calling it (that dive by Quick in the 3rd period was ridiculous, I don't know how the referee doesn't call him for embellishment there).
- niedermayer27

right, as a ducks fan you're far more used to upstanding nhl citizens like corey perry, who should be given the lady byng year in and year out...

right, as a ducks fan you're far more used to upstanding nhl citizens like corey perry, who should be given the lady byng year in and year out...
- hiway39

And what exactly does Corey Perry have to do with how much Doughty and Quick dive? Nice Ad Hominem argument.

But since you bring it up, Perry is an agitator and plays on the line every single game (and often crosses it). But he's also an intense competitor and takes a beating every night to get position in front of the net. That's old school hockey. I wouldn't call diving old school hockey.

And what exactly does Corey Perry have to do with how much Doughty and Quick dive? Nice Ad Hominem argument.

But since you bring it up, Perry is an agitator and plays on the line every single game (and often crosses it). But he's also an intense competitor and takes a beating every night to get position in front of the net. That's old school hockey. I wouldn't call diving old school hockey.
- niedermayer27

It has nothing to do with how much they dive, he's simply pointing out that you have a world class diver on your roster as well, so be careful what you wish for lest referees start calling Katy Perry on her diving and sneaky holds of the sticks that end up getting called hooking against the Dmen... Katy is one thee biggest sneaks in the league. I can't wait until someone 2-hands him ala McSorley...