I know, right?
- EKolb13

I have some suggestions on that.

CBJ rapidly falling away from the dogfight in the East wild card race

I would love for us to knock on their door and ask what they want for Nick Foligno

$3.08 cap hit for this year and next. Plays LW, hits a ton, scores goals and can move and down anywhere in the lineup.

We have over $1 mil in cap space, and to put him on wouldnt require too much moving around, likely just decide on 7 dmen, and possibly send Bollig down.

I understand a lot of people like bollig, but he becomes expendable if we get Foligno IMO and we dont really need the 7-8 minutes of ice time he gets some nights on the 4th line
- FourFeathers773

I like the BJ's talent and future......play hard every night and well coached. They had some injuries....Gaborik....Horton.....Bobrovsky. I would think Gaborik is a guy that could be had at the deadline.

Sooooo......Zus is Antonio Alfonseca.
- faustus1500

I still think this was one of the best questions of all times that a reporter asked a player - "Were you born with 6 fingers? I think it was Jesse Rogers asking that question to Antonio.

I still think this was one of the best questions of all times that a reporter asked a player - "Were you born with 6 fingers? I think it was Jesse Rogers asking that question to Antonio.
- powerenforcer

Jesse Rogers.....how he still has a job in the 3rd largest market is beyond me.

I like the BJ's talent and future......play hard every night and well coached. They had some injuries....Gaborik....Horton.....Bobrovsky. I would think Gaborik is a guy that could be had at the deadline.
- UnnamedSource

CBJ is not exactly a cash cow to be paying some of those salaries and not making the playoffs

If we could catch CBJ sleeping and move McNeil and say a 3rd rd pick, I would do it in a heartbeat

We can only hope McNeil plays as physical a game as Foligno, and will McNeil ever pan out to more than a 15-20 goal guy in the NHL? Im not sure

Hey, Callahan is exactly the kind of player CHI would love to have right now, hell any team would and I would certainly welcome him with open arms and a pitched tent, but not for TT

Thats a mighty tall winning lottery ticket going the other way. Not too often do WJC leading scorers wind up busts.

We have to also remember that in probably 1-3 years time, Hossa will not be the player he was. TT is the heir to replace some of that offense. I understand, TT is still a prospect, but its probably the most exciting prospect in the Hawks system of the past 10-15 years that wasnt a top 10 pick

If the Hawks pulled the trigger on a TT for Callahan RENTAL, that just screams desperation IMO that the Hawks feel their cup window is this year alone, which is clearly not the case.

I think a team like SJS, VAN, and DET are more likely to make a move and sacrifice like that while they have some high quality gas left in the tank with guys like Datsyuk, Alfredsson, Thornton, Sedins, etc while their windows are rapidly shrinking
- FourFeathers773

Oh, in my mind if they made such a move it would not be for a rental, especially when it involved dealing TT.

It's a ballsy move without a doubt, perhaps boarding insane, but you can't disagree that it's uncertain till TT is actually useful enough to win another championship.

By that time you got the majority of the core in their 30's. Will they still be just as effective as they are now? Who knows. It's all speculation.

I certainly love the debate, though. It is exciting as you said to have such a highly toted prospect on a team that's still currently built to win.

Im sure you guys have all seen this, but i thought it was funny enough to post it here. I was cracking up.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...er_embedded&v=fzMuCM01MtY
- BlazinMike

This is funnier than sh*ite

Yeah - I thought you would.
- StLBravesFan

Okay, I'm hooked.

- UnnamedSource

I like the BJ's talent and future......play hard every night and well coached. They had some injuries....Gaborik....Horton.....Bobrovsky. I would think Gaborik is a guy that could be had at the deadline.
- UnnamedSource

Sure, but not on the Hawks. I wouldn't want him anyways. That guy risks injury just by getting out of bed in the morning.

Haven't posted in awhile but..... my thoughts.

I agree with some others on this board that Bickell will find his streak. Bickell is not known for consistency, it's his game's biggest problem. When he's on, he's a beast. He scores dirty goals, lays people out, and makes great plays. When he's off, well, we're seeing that now. I would not make the Ladd for Bickell trade if it included TT.

More than Ladd, the Hawks need a 2C. They've won two cups without a legitimate 2C but it's a problem that will eventually come around full circle. I'm not sure who is out there but Sam Gagner comes to mind. I would put TT in a Gagner deal.

Not sure how the money would work though.

Great goal, but Saad did all the work.
- DarthKane

Handzus hauled ace to get into position and made an inch perfect shot....

Y'all see the Carter Hutton save last night ? Holy Schneikies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4agHIxF03_k

CBJ is not exactly a cash cow to be paying some of those salaries and not making the playoffs

If we could catch CBJ sleeping and move McNeil and say a 3rd rd pick, I would do it in a heartbeat

We can only hope McNeil plays as physical a game as Foligno, and will McNeil ever pan out to more than a 15-20 goal guy in the NHL? Im not sure
- FourFeathers773

They're also being run by John Davidson and GM Jarmmo Kekelainen, who are no dummies. And since their last stop was the Blues which they helped build into a powerhouse and are very familiar with the Blues prospects, look for Gaborik to go there.....

Sure, but not on the Hawks. I wouldn't want him anyways. That guy risks injury just by getting out of bed in the morning.
- EKolb13

Oof, the only way I take Gaborik is for some reasonable combination of picks and prospects and they are eating half his salary just to move him and get something back for him

Haven't posted in awhile but..... my thoughts.

I agree with some others on this board that Bickell will find his streak. Bickell is not known for consistency, it's his game's biggest problem. When he's on, he's a beast. He scores dirty goals, lays people out, and makes great plays. When he's off, well, we're seeing that now. I would not make the Ladd for Bickell trade if it included TT.

More than Ladd, the Hawks need a 2C. They've won two cups without a legitimate 2C but it's a problem that will eventually come around full circle. I'm not sure who is out there but Sam Gagner comes to mind. I would put TT in a Gagner deal.

Not sure how the money would work though.
- Bjm84

I guess if it came down to trading for a #2C, I could live with Gagner. However, if the Hawks cough up Teravainen in return, I'd want Edmonton to eat half of Ganger's contract.

Sure, but not on the Hawks. I wouldn't want him anyways. That guy risks injury just by getting out of bed in the morning.
- EKolb13

Sorry.....I meant to some teams he could had....wouldn't want him on the Hawks.

Haven't posted in awhile but..... my thoughts.

I agree with some others on this board that Bickell will find his streak. Bickell is not known for consistency, it's his game's biggest problem. When he's on, he's a beast. He scores dirty goals, lays people out, and makes great plays. When he's off, well, we're seeing that now. I would not make the Ladd for Bickell trade if it included TT.

More than Ladd, the Hawks need a 2C. They've won two cups without a legitimate 2C but it's a problem that will eventually come around full circle. I'm not sure who is out there but Sam Gagner comes to mind. I would put TT in a Gagner deal.

Not sure how the money would work though.
- Bjm84

wow, Sam Gagner has never lived up to expectations, especially as a 2C

you wouldnt include TT in a deal for Ladd, but you would for Gagner?

My jaw dropped man. The rest of the NHL, inlcuding the Oilers would laugh at us for how bad of a fleece that is

Andrew Ladd is 10x the hockey player Sam Gagner is

I guess if it came down to trading for a #2C, I could live with Gagner. However, if the Hawks cough up Teravainen in return, I'd want Edmonton to eat half of Ganger's contract.
- EKolb13

If Phoenix is out by the deadline, I'd get Vermette.

He checks off almost every box of the Hawks needs.

CBJ is not exactly a cash cow to be paying some of those salaries and not making the playoffs

If we could catch CBJ sleeping and move McNeil and say a 3rd rd pick, I would do it in a heartbeat

We can only hope McNeil plays as physical a game as Foligno, and will McNeil ever pan out to more than a 15-20 goal guy in the NHL? Im not sure
- FourFeathers773

I would love Foligno....but a player on the hawks would have to go back or they would have to eat some salary....not likely to happen.

wow, Sam Gagner has never lived up to expectations, especially as a 2C

you wouldnt include TT in a deal for Ladd, but you would for Gagner?

My jaw dropped man. The rest of the NHL, inlcuding the Oilers would laugh at us for how bad of a fleece that is

Andrew Ladd is 10x the hockey player Sam Gagner is
- FourFeathers773

A couple of those Florida Centers have to be available .

How is Drew Shore doing this year ?

I guess if it came down to trading for a #2C, I could live with Gagner. However, if the Hawks cough up Teravainen in return, I'd want Edmonton to eat half of Ganger's contract.
- EKolb13

They better be adding a pick. Their 1st.

Haven't posted in awhile but..... my thoughts.

I agree with some others on this board that Bickell will find his streak. Bickell is not known for consistency, it's his game's biggest problem. When he's on, he's a beast. He scores dirty goals, lays people out, and makes great plays. When he's off, well, we're seeing that now. I would not make the Ladd for Bickell trade if it included TT.

More than Ladd, the Hawks need a 2C. They've won two cups without a legitimate 2C but it's a problem that will eventually come around full circle. I'm not sure who is out there but Sam Gagner comes to mind. I would put TT in a Gagner deal.

Not sure how the money would work though.
- Bjm84

further on this. Sam Gagner has a career high 49 points in a season

Shaw is on pace this year for 42 pts while playing 3C. I would rather use him than get Gagner and his 4.8 mil cap hit and losing TT

In the spirit of this eventful day of rumors:

Bicks, Leddy and TT to the Avs for ROR. Get er done Stan.
- Elbows15

Since we're throwing around crazy offers:

Bickell, Crawford and Leddy for Henrique, Schneider, Larsson, and Carter.

TT update: Jokerit just won 3-2 after overtime and Teuvo put up 1+2. This year in three games he has 7 (1+6) points.

If Phoenix is out by the deadline, I'd get Vermette.

He checks off almost every box of the Hawks needs.
- teh_HAWKZ

Hard deal to make considering PHX is in the Western Conference and always competitive....

Unless a team goes into full rebuild like Winnipeg..or a Calgary... there will not be a team willing to help the hawks in the western conference. Your trade partners will be found in the bottom of the eastern conference.....more than likely.