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Bjm84
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jan 17 @ 4:21 PM ET
further on this. Sam Gagner has a career high 49 points in a season

Shaw is on pace this year for 42 pts while playing 3C. I would rather use him than get Gagner and his 4.8 mil cap hit and losing TT

- FourFeathers773


He has a career high 49 points... ON THE PERNIAL LOWLY EDMONTON OILERS. Your environment and supporting cast matters in hockey. In a Blackhawks sweater he is a 60-65 pt a player with good intangibles.
teh_HAWKZ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.03.2012

Jan 17 @ 4:27 PM ET
As far as Eklund goes....please don't post any crap about his famed rumor chart. It's a cash grab to fund this site. There is not a chance of hell the Hawks are in on Hemsky. Zero. Callahan? Do you really think the Rangers would trade their captain? NO.

Wake me when the guy breaks a rumor. Halak (e4) might be the best one yet. Why would the Blues who have had very little issues with goaltending, trade Halak for a soon to be UFA in Ryan Miller? My goodness...

With the deadline getting close, the lunacy will be only ramp up. I'm sure I'll get banned for his, but save yourselves....Rumor chart is a farce (e5).

- SteveRain


Breathe man. Callahan was only brought up for discussion sake. There was nothing indicating that the two teams were talking.

Just friendly debates with many players some of us might want to see wearing the Indian head.

It's all good.
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Jan 17 @ 4:28 PM ET
He has a career high 49 points... ON THE PERNIAL LOWLY EDMONTON OILERS. Your environment and supporting cast matters in hockey. In a Blackhawks sweater he is a 60-65 pt a player with good intangibles.
- Bjm84


(frank) Gagner, if the Hawks were going to trade for a 2C, then make up a package to get ROR...that guy is what this team needs.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 17 @ 4:29 PM ET
He has a career high 49 points... ON THE PERNIAL LOWLY EDMONTON OILERS. Your environment and supporting cast matters in hockey. In a Blackhawks sweater he is a 60-65 pt a player with good intangibles.
- Bjm84



Not necessarily, look at Frolik he's scoring more in Winnipeg than he did here.

We can do better than Gagner.
Bjm84
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jan 17 @ 4:34 PM ET
Not necessarily, look at Frolik he's scoring more in Winnipeg than he did here.

We can do better than Gagner.

- DarthKane


I'm not denying that we can do better than Gagner(I like the Plek idea) and for TT it would have to be a package deal aka not straight-up. But I could see this happening if Edmonton doesn't overvalue him and because of the Kane connection.
PhilMeister89
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Overland Park, KS
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jan 17 @ 4:36 PM ET
(frank) Gagner, if the Hawks were going to trade for a 2C, then make up a package to get ROR...that guy is what this team needs.
- BlazinMike


What do you think would be a good package for ROR? I see he is 5mil in cap hit. What would it take?
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Jan 17 @ 4:41 PM ET
What do you think would be a good package for ROR? I see he is 5mil in cap hit. What would it take?
- PhilMeister89


i dont know haha. Probably alot. Hes playing real good this year, and it would be within our own division. Most likely will never happen, but it would be sweet
Kentxo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago
Joined: 09.05.2009

Jan 17 @ 4:44 PM ET
I see. Yes, Weiss in deed deserves the "BUST" on his jersey instead of his name... Having injury trouble as well
- MDGHawk

Do you have any insight on Goc? He is German, I think. I still feel he is a good bottom 6 centerman.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jan 17 @ 4:46 PM ET
i dont know haha. Probably alot. Hes playing real good this year, and it would be within our own division. Most likely will never happen, but it would be sweet
- BlazinMike


Talk to Dale or Bergy, maybe they can trade for him and then turn around and send him to Chicago.
Bjm84
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jan 17 @ 4:47 PM ET
(frank) Gagner, if the Hawks were going to trade for a 2C, then make up a package to get ROR...that guy is what this team needs.
- BlazinMike


Gagner-2C
Bogdan Yakimov-C
David Musil- LW

FOR

Nick Leddy-D
Brandon Pirri - C
Blackhawks 2015 2nd pick

We bring up Clendening, dump Leddy's salary. Get our 2C while keeping TT.
PhilMeister89
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Overland Park, KS
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jan 17 @ 4:48 PM ET
i dont know haha. Probably alot. Hes playing real good this year, and it would be within our own division. Most likely will never happen, but it would be sweet
- BlazinMike


I agree it's a mouthwatering idea, but I'd be scared to see what they would want in return. TT would be obvious but they would probably want a roster player not named bickell and something else.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jan 17 @ 4:53 PM ET
Not necessarily, look at Frolik he's scoring more in Winnipeg than he did here.

We can do better than Gagner.

- DarthKane


Gagner squeezed an exhorbitant contract out of McTavish and a promise that he wouldn't be traded. Bowman has a similar player, who may be better than Gagner already, coming from Finland soon to play on a cap friendly entry level deal.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jan 17 @ 4:54 PM ET
Frankly... it's bullpoop.

JJ isn't a beat writer for the team, he's not tugging on Rocky's ballsac. The guy has brought up rumors in the past and broke stories about the team in the past. I fully believe that the trade - at the very least - was indeed discussed.

- CaptainBlackhawk


I agree that JJ was told about the trade discussion and that he believed his source. I can't go as far as to say I believe the trade was discussed. It was indeed a cheap shot by Kuc; though he did not mention who had disseminated the rumor.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
I'm not denying that we can do better than Gagner(I like the Plek idea) and for TT it would have to be a package deal aka not straight-up. But I could see this happening if Edmonton doesn't overvalue him and because of the Kane connection.
- Bjm84



Plek makes too much money, won't work unless Bickell goes the other way.

My personal belief is that we have the solution to the 2C situation, we just won't get him until the end of this season or next year (more realistically). Stan should stand pat with TT and make a minor deal to solidify the 4th line.
Kentxo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago
Joined: 09.05.2009

Jan 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
Plek makes too much money, won't work unless Bickell goes the other way.

My personal belief is that we have the solution to the 2C situation, we just won't get him until the end of this season or next year (more realistically). Stan should stand pat with TT and make a minor deal to solidify the 4th line.

- DarthKane

Yes.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
I agree that JJ was told about the trade discussion and that he believed his source. I can't go as far as to say I believe the trade was discussed. It was indeed a cheap shot by Kuc; though he did not mention who had disseminated the rumor.
- mohel


I believe Chicago and Winnipeg have talked - Stan and Chevy.

If they have, certainly Byfuglien, Kane and Ladd have been topics, as have Bickell, Ledfy, and TT.

The issue is how serious are the discussions - my guess (GUESS) is not yet serious enough yet for a rumor to grow into possibility.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jan 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
What do you think would be a good package for ROR? I see he is 5mil in cap hit. What would it take?
- PhilMeister89


The first thing it would take is $3.9M in salary leaving the Hawks. The second thing would be a desire in COL to help the Hawks get better.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 17 @ 5:02 PM ET
Plek makes too much money, won't work unless Bickell goes the other way.

My personal belief is that we have the solution to the 2C situation, we just won't get him until the end of this season or next year (more realistically). Stan should stand pat with TT and make a minor deal to solidify the 4th line.

- DarthKane


Two years, if they're smart: next year to put some weight/strength on him and to learn the NA game against potential future NHLers.
PhilMeister89
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Overland Park, KS
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jan 17 @ 5:03 PM ET
The first thing it would take is $3.9M in salary leaving the Hawks. The second thing would be a desire in COL to help the Hawks get better.
- mohel


But isn't everyone a hawks fan?
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jan 17 @ 5:06 PM ET
I believe Chicago and Winnipeg have talked - Stan and Chevy.

If they have, certainly Byfuglien, Kane and Ladd have been topics, as have Bickell, Ledfy, and TT.

The issue is how serious are the discussions - my guess (GUESS) is not yet serious enough yet for a rumor to grow into possibility.

- StLBravesFan


Sounds very reasonable and possible.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 17 @ 5:06 PM ET
I believe Chicago and Winnipeg have talked - Stan and Chevy.

If they have, certainly Byfuglien, Kane and Ladd have been topics, as have Bickell, Ledfy, and TT.

The issue is how serious are the discussions - my guess (GUESS) is not yet serious enough yet for a rumor to grow into possibility.

- StLBravesFan



The one guy I really want from Winnipeg (when he's healthy) is Jim Slater, he'd be the perfect 4C.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jan 17 @ 5:07 PM ET
But isn't everyone a hawks fan?
- PhilMeister89


The Av's seem to look up to the Hawks, but probably not that much!
MDGHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Duesseldorf, Germany
Joined: 06.20.2013

Jan 17 @ 5:10 PM ET
Do you have any insight on Goc? He is German, I think. I still feel he is a good bottom 6 centerman.
- Kentxo


No not really. Only that he stood out in the german league years ago and back then was the one of 3 Goc brothers who had the potential to make it to the NHL. He made it and I'd say established himself in the league. Also only heard that he is a reliable player, but I don't really follow him as I spend most of the time on Hawks talk and games .
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jan 17 @ 5:11 PM ET
It was posted earlier that JJ was going to post a new blog awhile ago. I bet the delay is caused by Kuc's tweet - JJ now driving to the UC looking to have an adult conversation with Mr. Kuc???
PhilMeister89
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Overland Park, KS
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jan 17 @ 5:13 PM ET
It was posted earlier that JJ was going to post a new blog awhile ago. I bet the delay is caused by Kuc's tweet - JJ now driving to the UC looking to have an adult conversation with Mr. Kuc???
- mohel


Is he gonna go "Bollig" on somebody?
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