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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 17 @ 1:49 PM ET
if he keeps improving, one year prove yourself contract for cheap. the list of free agents isn't appealing to me.
- -davies-

Girardi,
Niskanen
are pretty good
even Diaz although I'm less enamored with him
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 17 @ 1:50 PM ET
why no voracek in the so?
- -davies-

That's what I kept saying at the time.

Although I'll admit I didn't expect Couturier to score. So what do I know?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 17 @ 1:51 PM ET
Girardi,
Niskanen
are pretty good
even Diaz although I'm less enamored with him

- Marc D



I think it's likelier you see Letang and Del Zotto moved before July 1 (or July 3, whatever UFA day is) than see Niskanen and Girardi ever hit the open market.

Diaz would be a great pickup.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jan 17 @ 1:53 PM ET
Hartnell has been the good Hartnell for a while

maybe he should have sat out last night after being hobbled, blocking that shot


how crazy is it that Hartnell B Schenn and Simmonds has really been their best line lately

Hartnell together with Simmonds just sounds like a fail, given they both kind of bring the same skills to the line

- Marc D



yeah that line is definitely a surprise. now i like it, i am so easy to sway. would love to see downie couts read back together.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 17 @ 1:58 PM ET
I think it's likelier you see Letang and Del Zotto moved before July 1 (or July 3, whatever UFA day is) than see Niskanen and Girardi ever hit the open market.

Diaz would be a great pickup.

- Tomahawk


I could see Niskanen getting there is Pittsburgh doesn't move him prior to the TDL. Also, I'd like Diaz, that's fine with me.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 17 @ 2:00 PM ET
I think it's likelier you see Letang and Del Zotto moved before July 1 (or July 3, whatever UFA day is) than see Niskanen and Girardi ever hit the open market.

Diaz would be a great pickup.

- Tomahawk

DelZotto maybe will be moved, I can see that, and I agree Girardi will likely re up with NYRs. Hopefully at a big number.

I guess I would still be surprised to see Letang leave Pitt. Even with their young guys coming on.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 17 @ 2:01 PM ET
I could see Niskanen getting there is Pittsburgh doesn't move him prior to the TDL. Also, I'd like Diaz, that's fine with me.
- jmatchett383

why would Pitt move anyone until after the playoffs?

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 17 @ 2:01 PM ET
yeah that line is definitely a surprise. now i like it, i am so easy to sway. would love to see downie couts read back together.
- -davies-

me too
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:02 PM ET
why would Pitt move anyone until after the playoffs?
- Marc D


Because they have enough D to survive without Niskanen, and he would be their major trade chip if a playoff-bound team needs help on D. If he brought in a solid 3rd liner, they'd move him.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:03 PM ET
yeah that line is definitely a surprise. now i like it, i am so easy to sway. would love to see downie couts read back together.
- -davies-


They had 1 shift together last night and it was great.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 17 @ 2:04 PM ET
He's one of the few dmen I actually would move B Schenn and/or 1st-round picks for... kid is already awesome, plus he's on an ELC for the next couple of seasons. Really don't think Poile is stupid enough to move him, though. Weber + Jones is a pretty strong backbone for any team to build around.
- Tomahawk


and he fell into their (frank)ing laps.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:05 PM ET
and he fell into their (frank)ing laps.
- hammarby31


Should definitely soften the blow of losing Suter at least a bit.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 17 @ 2:06 PM ET
I think it's likelier you see Letang and Del Zotto moved before July 1 (or July 3, whatever UFA day is) than see Niskanen and Girardi ever hit the open market.

Diaz would be a great pickup.

- Tomahawk


bo diaz wouldn't help us.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 17 @ 2:07 PM ET
Because they have enough D to survive without Niskanen, and he would be their major trade chip if a playoff-bound team needs help on D. If he brought in a solid 3rd liner, they'd move him.
- jmatchett383

for me I'd rather go into a long playoff battle with 8 solid D

I'm biased by being a Flyers fan and seeing what happened with the D going down
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:07 PM ET
In all seriousness: if you were picking a team right now, would any of you take any other forward besides Sidney Crosby? If so, who, and why?
Is there any other defenseman/goalie you'd take over him?

I look at it this way. Pittsburgh would be better off trading Crosby for _________. I can't fill in the blank with 1 player.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
for me I'd rather go into a long playoff battle with 8 solid D

I'm biased by being a Flyers fan and seeing what happened with the D going down

- Marc D


They've had the most man-games lost due to injury this year, mostly to the back end. They just call up guys as needed and they fit seamlessly. They have somewhere on the order of 10 guys who could play full-time for them.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 17 @ 2:09 PM ET
In all seriousness: if you were picking a team right now, would any of you take any other forward besides Sidney Crosby? If so, who, and why?
Is there any other defenseman/goalie you'd take over him?

I look at it this way. Pittsburgh would be better off trading Crosby for _________. I can't fill in the blank with 1 player.

- jmatchett383


No. It has to be Crosby. He's such a game breaker every time he's on the ice. He makes difficult plays look like a thing of ease. I hate the guy, but he's the best.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:11 PM ET
TVR up for the Hobey Baker

http://www.hobeybaker.com...baker-memorial-award/vote

I think Ghost has a shot, although Barber and Gaudreau are also good shots.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 17 @ 2:20 PM ET
TVR up for the Hobey Baker

http://www.hobeybaker.com...baker-memorial-award/vote

I think Ghost has a shot, although Barber and Gaudreau are also good shots.

- jmatchett383


I just voted. He's in 3rd place. Not bad. I love how Ghost is the only one with an action photo. Winding up for a big shot.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 17 @ 2:21 PM ET
bo diaz wouldn't help us.
- hammarby31


Especially because Bo Diaz is no longer alive.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:24 PM ET
I think Mez has a 0.0 percent chance of being back on this team next year.

As for Gus, I don't think anyone has seen enough to say "yup, he's done". I think he needs to see more of the ice before that determination is made. It's not like Gus is Luke Schenn, who despite being only 24, over 350 NHL games under his belt.

- johndewar


Isnt that the issue though. He hasn't been consistant or good enough to crack the line-up and stick, and when he does get cups, he gets injured and is out for months at a time. Just not someone I would use a contract spot for when we already have so many questions on defense.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 17 @ 2:26 PM ET
In all seriousness: if you were picking a team right now, would any of you take any other forward besides Sidney Crosby? If so, who, and why?
Is there any other defenseman/goalie you'd take over him?

I look at it this way. Pittsburgh would be better off trading Crosby for _________. I can't fill in the blank with 1 player.

- jmatchett383


BOB RYAB, obvs.

Kidding.

It'd be Crosby. I can't think of a better forward right now.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:28 PM ET
In all seriousness: if you were picking a team right now, would any of you take any other forward besides Sidney Crosby? If so, who, and why?
Is there any other defenseman/goalie you'd take over him?

I look at it this way. Pittsburgh would be better off trading Crosby for _________. I can't fill in the blank with 1 player.

- jmatchett383


I personally like Ovechkins game better. Or Stamkos. I don't trust Crosby's health to be honest.

Let me clarify. Crosby is the best player, but I would weigh the amount he is better against his health. If he is better for an average of 65 games a year, yes give me Ovechkin or Stamkos over him.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jan 17 @ 2:31 PM ET
TVR up for the Hobey Baker

http://www.hobeybaker.com...baker-memorial-award/vote

I think Ghost has a shot, although Barber and Gaudreau are also good shots.

- jmatchett383

Didn't Ghost get hurt? is he back playing or still out?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 17 @ 2:36 PM ET
Hartnell has been the good Hartnell for a while

maybe he should have sat out last night after being hobbled, blocking that shot


how crazy is it that Hartnell B Schenn and Simmonds has really been their best line lately

Hartnell together with Simmonds just sounds like a fail, given they both kind of bring the same skills to the line

- Marc D


Legion of Dumb.
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