Brodziak, Gelncross, Greene and Cogliano come to mind.

We tend to hold on to the JFJ's and M.A.Pouliots way too long.
- Reveen

Yeah, I agree with you on Brodziak, Glencross and Greene but Cogliano is another small forward that we don't need. Management had to make a choice between him and Gags so they went with Sam. Was it the wrong decision? Hard to say as Cogliano is getting used differently with the Ducks then what he would have with the Oilers. If we kept him over Gagner, would Cogs be having the same success being forced to be a 2C? I doubt it.

Yeah, I agree with you on Brodziak, Glencross and Greene but Cogliano is another small forward that we don't need. Management had to make a choice between him and Gags so they went with Sam. Was it the wrong decision? Hard to say as Cogliano is getting used differently with the Ducks then what he would have with the Oilers. If we kept him over Gagner, would Cogs be having the same success being forced to be a 2C? I doubt it.
- nated81

The other thing that drives me nuts is the Oilers miscasting their players.

LANDER
- nagasadow

Smyth

The other thing that drives me nuts is the Oilers miscasting their players.
- Reveen

That has been a bit of a problem in the past years. That can be chalked up to poor scouting and lack of the proper personnel. They have thrown the young kids to the wolves instead of bringing them along slowly and developing properly.

That has been a bit of a problem in the past years. That can be chalked up to poor scouting and lack of the proper personnel. They have thrown the young kids to the wolves instead of bringing them along slowly and developing properly.
- nated81

I do have hope with the way they handled Marincin and Klefbom so far...

I do have hope with the way they handled Marincin and Klefbom so far...
- Reveen

It was nice to see Marincin playing live. The kid has some skill and size to him, he just needs to put on some weight and he will be a force out there.

It was nice to see Marincin playing live. The kid has some skill and size to him, he just needs to put on some weight and he will be a force out there.
- nated81

He needs beans

Classic...LOL

http://my.hockeybuzz.com/...t_id=15898&user_id=157880

He needs beans
- AlEx_OiL

He needs pancakes !!!!!

It was nice to see Marincin playing live. The kid has some skill and size to him, he just needs to put on some weight and he will be a force out there.
- nated81

He's going to be a good d-man... If Klefbom and Nurse can hit their potential we will be looking good on the back end.

It was nice to see Marincin playing live. The kid has some skill and size to him, he just needs to put on some weight and he will be a force out there.
- nated81

strong stick and quality skater.

always different to hear from someone who's seen a player live though.
good to hear

really hoping we have a solid two way guy here. patience is the key with him.
ive kind of always thought he had the capabilities of being a very solid top 4 guy.

I think klefbom is the real question mark. neither a top pairing guy or a bust would really surprise me all that much.
again, we need to be patient. don't rush him cause we're so desperate. we need 2 quality proven nhl'ers signed for next year

strong stick and quality skater.

always different to hear from someone who's seen a player live though.
good to hear

really hoping we have a solid two way guy here. patience is the key with him.
ive kind of always thought he had the capabilities of being a very solid top 4 guy.

I think klefbom is the real question mark. neither a top pairing guy or a bust would really surprise me all that much
- hugefemale dog77

I was overall impressed with what he was doing out there today. My cousin even asked who he was, as he is a Jets fan, he hadn't heard of him.

He's going to be a good d-man... If Klefbom and Nurse can hit their potential we will be looking good on the back end.
- Reveen

As of right now I think Gernat has a brighter future than Klefbom, but regardless they both need at least another year in the AHL, if not more

Yeah, I agree with you on Brodziak, Glencross and Greene but Cogliano is another small forward that we don't need. Management had to make a choice between him and Gags so they went with Sam. Was it the wrong decision? Hard to say as Cogliano is getting used differently with the Ducks then what he would have with the Oilers. If we kept him over Gagner, would Cogs be having the same success being forced to be a 2C? I doubt it.
- nated81

glenx was a huge error. a guy like him would be fantastic for this team. just perfect. I don't wtf mngmt was thinking

brodziak abit of a mistake, but 4th liners aren't that tough to find.

cogliano didn't fit here and needed to go, and green was moved in a deal for a player we really needed at the time. it made sense.
and if we had greene we probably wouldn't be near as high on him as he'd be like ference and being put in a position far above his comfort and skill level

same for all of these guys except glenx. we depended too much on them. stoll, greene, cogs are decent nhl'er role players and can be great in the right situation. but not the situation we had them in

To bad Edmonton didn't have heart like Calgary they just had more fights in 2seconds then Edmonton in there last ten games

glenx was a huge error. a guy like him would be fantastic for this team.

brodziak abit of a mistake, but 4th liners aren't that tough to find.

cogliano didn't fit here and needed to go, and green was moved in a deal for a player we really needed at the time. it made sense.
and if we had greene we probably wouldn't be near as high on him as he'd be like ference and being put in a position far above his comfort and skill level

same for all of these guys except glenx. we depended too much on them. stoll, greene, cogs are decent nhl'er role players and can be great in the right situation. but not the situation we had them in
- hugefemale dog77

If 4th liners are so easy to find then why are we having so much trouble finding decent ones?

If 4th liners are so easy to find then why are we having so much trouble finding decent ones?
- Ihatebrianburke

u really went after the one sentence huh?
I didn't say easy, I said not that tough. I think there's a line between the two

anyway, it's not like brodziak is some sort of dan paille exceptional 4th liner. a good player we could use, but far from someone would change our fortunes much.

I also think we've had guys that should be in those positions placed in higher spots out of necessity. id say Gordon is probably a true 4th liner, or at least somewhere between 3 and 4 and agreat pk'er/faceoff guy. while we've had him playing 2nd line some nights.
either way, he's certainly better than brodziak imo.

I also think we've cheaped out abit and tried to do it by mediocre committee if u follow my meaning.

as I said, everyone one of those guys mentioned could be considered a small mistake depending on how u look at it.

but the only real glaring error was glenx. the rest were replaceable or had to go

If 4th liners are so easy to find then why are we having so much trouble finding decent ones?
- Ihatebrianburke

We have them....on the 3rd line

u really went after the one sentence huh?
I didn't say easy, I said not that tough. I think there's a line between the two

anyway, it's not like brodziak is some sort of dan paille exceptional 4th liner. a good player we could use, but far from someone would change our fortunes much.

I also think we've had guys that should be in those positions placed in higher spots out of necessity. id say Gordon is probably a true 4th liner, or at least somewhere between 3 and 4 and agreat pk'er/faceoff guy. while we've had him playing 2nd line some nights.
either way, he's certainly better than brodziak imo.

I also think we've cheaped out abit and tried to do it by mediocre committee if u follow my meaning.

as I said, everyone one of those guys mentioned could be considered a small mistake depending on how u look at it.

but the only real glaring error was glenx. the rest were replaceable or had to go
- hugefemale dog77

The saddest part of this whole convo is that if we had a solid top 9 forwards and a solid 4 D and goalie we wouldn't even give half a turd about our 4th line.

http://www.cbssports.com/...flames-coaches-in-hallway

If nothing else, Vince McMahon may give Gary Bettman a call for new storyline ideas for the WWE.

Next game I say the oilers say (frank) it and ice their 4th line for the opening draw and call up Macintyre for the Canucks. Gazdic Hendrick Macintyre

u really went after the one sentence huh?
I didn't say easy, I said not that tough. I think there's a line between the two

anyway, it's not like brodziak is some sort of dan paille exceptional 4th liner. a good player we could use, but far from someone would change our fortunes much.

I also think we've had guys that should be in those positions placed in higher spots out of necessity. id say Gordon is probably a true 4th liner, or at least somewhere between 3 and 4 and agreat pk'er/faceoff guy. while we've had him playing 2nd line some nights.
either way, he's certainly better than brodziak imo.

I also think we've cheaped out abit and tried to do it by mediocre committee if u follow my meaning.

as I said, everyone one of those guys mentioned could be considered a small mistake depending on how u look at it.

but the only real glaring error was glenx. the rest were replaceable or had to go
- hugefemale dog77

I disagree completely about Brodziak. I wish we still had him in our bottom 6. I think him and Gordon are very similar players and I'd love to have them both

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/24413753/video-john-tortorella-goes-after-flames-coaches-in-hallway






Next game I say the oilers say (frank) it and ice their 4th line for the opening draw and call up Macintyre for the Canucks. Gazdic Hendrick Macintyre
- nagasadow

(frank) ya! I was hoping we'd call up Big Mac last time we played Vancouver. If only to smash Kassian's face in whether he wants to fight or not.

(frank) ya! I was hoping we'd call up Big Mac last time we played Vancouver. If only to smash Kassian's face in whether he wants to fight or not.
- Ihatebrianburke

Eakins could probably take Torts in a brawl, Bucky and get who ever and let Joey smack Kassian after Macintyres done with him.

The saddest part of this whole convo is that if we had a solid top 9 forwards and a solid 4 D and goalie we wouldn't even give half a turd about our 4th line.
- Jeropotato

It still baffles me. I see flashes of brilliance but it might just be me but we seemed to be playing better at the start of the year even. Way better last year. Our team really does look decent on paper. Arcobello has good potential for a solid third line scorer, which surprised us all. Marincin looks like he could compete for his 5-6 role on a permanent bases next year which was also a pleasant surprise. If we can feed that guy something he could be that good sized dman we were looking for to keep players out of the net.

Scrivens is the back up we wanted and if we get our starter in the off season we have the goaltending tandem we dreamed of. Perron I think turned out better than we expected. Gagner never found his legs but that might be because the team hasn't. Yak is doing well considering the coaching he is getting. It looks like we have a solid top 6. I am not against trading Gagner and Hemsky to upgrade that center spot on the second line but if we could our centers are not terrible. Gordon is a great faceoff guy with grit that could lead a solid fourth line of shut down guys.

I like the way Petry is developing. Schultz is coming along slower but the whole team seems to be so I can't say much. Ference adds grit. So really we are not that far off on paper.

However some days it looks like a father son match out there. I hate to say it because many disagree but they look unmotivated. That is management and it is getting worse, not better. We are well on our way to getting Ek in the draft. Coach is obvious but if we are keeping MacT, we need to bring in an experienced assistant GM or a new President of hockey operations to help him for the first couple years. Don't bother saying we have one and that Lowe is cool because I don't believe either.

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/24413753/video-john-tortorella-goes-after-flames-coaches-in-hallway






Next game I say the oilers say (frank) it and ice their 4th line for the opening draw and call up Macintyre for the Canucks. Gazdic Hendrick Macintyre
- nagasadow

not a bad idea.
Least you could finally put something in the win column.