He is kind of lost... You're asking a top-2 center to play the wing on the 3rd line... He needs to be put back at center.
- Flyers_V88

At who's expense? Only thing that comes to mind is the 4th line, and that is alot of cap space centering a fourth line.

I am a little reluctant to take Schenn off the centering job on the second line.

And I don't disagree with what you are saying here, but who else would you like to have on G's wing if Voracek is out?
- Bearintheforest

Simmons & Raffl w G

Couts w Downie & Read

Schenn w Hartnell & McGinn

I would do this

And that would make a difference?

This isn't 2005.

Homer always thinks he's getting the same guy several years after they're a star
- puckhead17

No I realize he isn't the huge impact player he once was, but asking a guy who's played center his entire career to start playing the wing is an adjustment... He also isn't getting the looks and time he once had. Vinny isn't a checker or 3rd line guy... You have to use your skilled guys correctly. He isn't a Toews or Tavares or Crosby that can play both ends of the rink or position.

At who's expense? Only thing that comes to mind is the 4th line, and that is alot of cap space centering a fourth line.

I am a little reluctant to take Schenn off the centering job on the second line.
- Bearintheforest

We have a high priced 3 pairing D man, so

At who's expense? Only thing that comes to mind is the 4th line, and that is alot of cap space centering a fourth line.

I am a little reluctant to take Schenn off the centering job on the second line.
- Bearintheforest

Nah, you can't. If Voracek is out long-term, Vinny gets that spot on the top line.

No I realize he isn't the huge impact player he once was, but asking a guy who's played center his entire career to start playing the wing is an adjustment... He also isn't getting the looks and time he once had. Vinny isn't a checker or 3rd line guy... You have to use your skilled guys correctly. He isn't a Toews or Tavares or Crosby that can play both ends of the rink or position.
- Flyers_V88

I know he also isn't Vinny anymore.

Again, I hated he & Streit's contracts then & now

We have a high priced 3 pairing D man, so
- puckhead17

Well, even if you take away the cap aspect his skill set isn't fourth line material.

As for our D and cap: Will be interesting seeing how it looks at the start of next season.

No I realize he isn't the huge impact player he once was, but asking a guy who's played center his entire career to start playing the wing is an adjustment... He also isn't getting the looks and time he once had. Vinny isn't a checker or 3rd line guy... You have to use your skilled guys correctly. He isn't a Toews or Tavares or Crosby that can play both ends of the rink or position.
- Flyers_V88

Even when Raffl doesn't produce he back checks and kills penalties,
Non producing players find ways to do simething else

What else does he do?

Well, even if you take away the cap aspect his skill set isn't fourth line material.

As for our D and cap: Will be interesting seeing how it looks at the start of next season.
- Bearintheforest

Totally agree!

I'm just confirming that I didn't want him then & I'm not shocked

Every time a past their prime star player is available

Never mind

Totally agree!

I'm just confirming that I didn't want him then & I'm not shocked

Every time a past their prime star player is available

Never mind
- puckhead17

Heh, Homer is in the process of building a hockey museum. Jurrassic Park, with hockey players.

Heh, Homer is in the process of building a hockey museum. Jurrassic Park, with hockey players.
- Bearintheforest

top 2 movie all time

Heh, Homer is in the process of building a hockey museum. Jurrassic Park, with hockey players.
- Bearintheforest

The cap going up is his worst enemy

2 one dimensional free agent UFA multi term signings, at a combined age of what?
70 years old?

The cap going up is his worst enemy

2 one dimensional free agent UFA multi term signings, at a combined age of what?
70 years old?
- puckhead17

This made me laugh!

Win the majority of your home games, split on the road.

So, to me, this was a successful back-to-back, though you hate to give up the two-goal lead in the third. But it's been obvious that they Islanders overall skill and speed has really been a problem for the the Flyers, so I wasn't surprised. Kyle Okposo was a man possessed the last two games.

The point they did get truly matters, though -- there's a little bit, not a ton, but a little bit of breathing room for them.

Carolina has been a bit of a pain for them, as well; guess we'll see how Steve Mason plays, who might come out of the lineup, tomorrow.

This made me laugh!
- Bearintheforest

Thanks but it wasn't supposed to, it's making me cry

I'm off to chilis
If that doesn't pick up ones spirits nothing will

Thanks but it wasn't supposed to, it's making me cry
- puckhead17

We get to celebrate their combined 78th birthday.

Win the majority of your home games, split on the road.

So, to me, this was a successful back-to-back, though you hate to give up the two-goal lead in the third. But it's been obvious that they Islanders overall skill and speed has really been a problem for the the Flyers, so I wasn't surprised. Kyle Okposo was a man possessed the last two games.

The point they did get truly matters, though -- there's a little bit, not a ton, but a little bit of breathing room for them.

Carolina has been a bit of a pain for them, as well; guess we'll see how Steve Mason plays, who might come out of the lineup, tomorrow.
- AllInForFlyers

theyre a really underrated group. a few more pieces and theyll be good for a while

I didn't want him then, didn't like the contract, he looks lost.
Or still injured
- puckhead17

jesus guys this is a guy in a new city with a new team and system that has struggled out of the gate give him a year or 2 before throwing him under a bus

jesus guys this is a guy in a new city with a new team and system that has struggled out of the gate give him a year or 2 before throwing him under a bus
- 2Real

I remember for the first month of the season, Vinny was our best player.

Then he got hurt.

Was he playing wing in the beginning of the year?

jesus guys this is a guy in a new city with a new team and system that has struggled out of the gate give him a year or 2 before throwing him under a bus
- 2Real

If we don't have a Whipping Boy of the Week, we're not happy

theyre a really underrated group. a few more pieces and theyll be good for a while
- stayinthefnnet

You know those boys must have a bright future if you can play Matt Carkner in your Top 6 and Eric Boulton and Matt Martin at the same time and still give teams fits

I remember for the first month of the season, Vinny was our best player.

Then he got hurt.

Was he playing wing in the beginning of the year?
- Giroux_Is_God

I can't remember the beginning of the year lots of alcohol was involved to get through the games

I remember for the first month of the season, Vinny was our best player.

Then he got hurt.

Was he playing wing in the beginning of the year?
- Giroux_Is_God

It'll be OK, if/when he starts scoring goals again -- if Voracek's out for an extended period and he moves up to 1RW, I think he'll score a few

top 2 movie all time
- Crimsoninja

Blade Runner and Total Recall are much better don't forget T1/T2