r we getting some form of reparations for the boyes trade
- hubie

??? You guys owned us on that one...

When are you going to stop Eklund.... Like I said on twitter before you blocked me.... Maybe you do have legitimate sources.. They just make rumours up when it comes to you because it's fun to screw around with the "anonymous" guy....
- curryjg44

Yet here you are......

if the Sabres signed Miller to a LTD first, then traded him to St. Lou or whoever, then he wouldn't be a rental anymore and should fetch a good return

Are blues really gonna milk buffalo for Moulson? That's a low blow, unless they return one of their top players. Backes, Halak and a first round for Miller and Moulson? Either way you look at it, if Blues get Miller... they win the cup... straight up
- PtotheY

WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING ? There's NO WAY, Buffalo gets that package for, Miller, & Moulson ! Buffalo would have to " Back the truck up, unload it, & then repeat again " to get Backes !

Yet here you are......
- Streit2ThePoint

Great site to talk puck and read comments.... Did you buy your season ticket yet?

Oh never mind... You probably get yours free. Just for sticking up for Eklund when you get the chance. That's cool.

if the Sabres signed Miller to a LTD first, then traded him to St. Lou or whoever, then he wouldn't be a rental anymore and should fetch a good return
- Fl Sabres Fan

And that has happened in the NHL when??

WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING ? There's NO WAY, Buffalo gets that package for, Miller, & Moulson ! Buffalo would have to " Back the truck up, unload it, & then repeat again " to get Backes !
- Richard_Cranium

Sorry to say bud, but Miller being a top elite goaltender in the league is worth much more than Halak and Backes is worth more than Moulson but Mouslon is still worth quite a bit of coin. So I ain't smoking crack, you def are if you think Halak for Miller alone would stand.

Miller will win you a cup with the highest probability, more so than Backes alone or Halak alone. That is why you need to pay prime estate if you want arguably the best tender in the league.

And that has happened in the NHL when??
- howie feltersnatch

sign and trade deals happen in other sports, why not hockey?

And that has happened in the NHL when??
- howie feltersnatch

The NHL wants this to happen by creating the 8yr and 7yr max contract terms
Has yet to happen - but will not be surprised when it does

Sorry to say bud, but Miller being a top elite goaltender in the league is worth much more than Halak and Backes is worth more than Moulson but Mouslon is still worth quite a bit of coin. So I ain't smoking crack, you def are if you think Halak for Miller alone would stand.
- PtotheY

Regardless of Millers play Backes is that teams captain and figurehead.

Their GM would be fired on the spot for derailing a contending team like that. It would be the biggest ghaffe of all time. You would need to move a very very very special player to even justify giving up Backes.

What really is the current market for Miller?

Barring unforeseen injuries, you really only have the NYI and the Caps in the East who might have any interest. of course this is two teams both sitting out of the playoffs looking in at this point.

Do the Islanders really give up a lot to maybe get them in the playoffs? Perhaps, though I doubt it.. but of course you never know with the NYI.

Washington would seem to be a real possibility depending on how they evaluate their three goalies? If they think any one of those three is the real deal, Miller is only seen as a rental which likely impacts the perceived value.

In the west, the Jets may very well want him but how much good does that do as a rental? Maybe there is a "splash" deal here to go along with the coaching change.

Minnesota might want him to an extent (if they are sick of their two goalies' injury bugs) but they have too much $ tied up in their own goalies and the desire isn't even likely.

Which leaves us with the Blues..........Armstrong is extremely patient, especially when he holds the cards. The current lack of demand and fit for Miller is unlucky for the Sabres. A timely injury could impact this of course.

Millers ntc hurts the leverage as well. If I am Miller, my preferred destination is STL by a long shot of the aforementioned clubs.

Someone mentioned Halak, MPS and a pick as a starting point for a deal which seems to make some sense to me with Buffalo then flipping Halak or keeping him. As a coincidental observation, adding Stewart and Moulson could make it work even better as it makes the money almost an even wash.

Of course, if by some bizarre reason Buffalo wanted Roy back, i am sure the Blues would be willing to include him in a deal.

Sorry to say bud, but Miller being a top elite goaltender in the league is worth much more than Halak and Backes is worth more than Moulson but Mouslon is still worth quite a bit of coin. So I ain't smoking crack, you def are if you think Halak for Miller alone would stand.
- PtotheY

Backes is worth more to our team than Miller would be. We would have a huge hole up front. No way in hell he is dealt. That is all he was saying. Miller is definately worth more than Halak that's why we would send our first and a player like MPS.

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Sorry to say bud, but Miller being a top elite goaltender in the league is worth much more than Halak and Backes is worth more than Moulson but Mouslon is still worth quite a bit of coin. So I ain't smoking crack, you def are if you think Halak for Miller alone would stand.
- PtotheY

Both of those guys are ufa's after this season it doesn't matter that you think he is top 3 goalie in the league or if he actually is. What does matter is that he is 33 on the last year of his contract and could sign anywhere afterwards no one is going to offer much and factor in Goalies go for way cheaper. Schneider might not be at the level of Miller yet but he could get there and is 6 year younger and had 2 years left at 4 million and he went for one top 10 pick. Miller will get a late first and a former top prospect who hasn't performed up to expectations.

Regardless of Millers play Backes is that teams captain and figurehead.

Their GM would be fired on the spot for derailing a contending team like that. It would be the biggest ghaffe of all time. You would need to move a very very very special player to even justify giving up Backes.
- SiloCity

Miller is that very very special person.

What really is the current market for Miller?

Barring unforeseen injuries, you really only have the NYI and the Caps in the East who might have any interest. of course this is two teams both sitting out of the playoffs looking in at this point.

Do the Islanders really give up a lot to maybe get them in the playoffs? Perhaps, though I doubt it.. but of course you never know with the NYI.

Washington would seem to be a real possibility depending on how they evaluate their three goalies? If they think any one of those three is the real deal, Miller is only seen as a rental which likely impacts the perceived value.

In the west, the Jets may very well want him but how much good does that do as a rental? Maybe there is a "splash" deal here to go along with the coaching change.

Minnesota might want him to an extent (if they are sick of their two goalies' injury bugs) but they have too much $ tied up in their own goalies and the desire isn't even likely.

Which leaves us with the Blues..........Armstrong is extremely patient, especially when he holds the cards. The current lack of demand and fit for Miller is unlucky for the Sabres. A timely injury could impact this of course.

Millers ntc hurts the leverage as well. If I am Miller, my preferred destination is STL by a long shot of the aforementioned clubs.

Someone mentioned Halak, MPS and a pick as a starting point for a deal which seems to make some sense to me with Buffalo then flipping Halak or keeping him. As a coincidental observation, adding Stewart and Moulson could make it work even better as it makes the money almost an even wash.

Of course, if by some bizarre reason Buffalo wanted Roy back, i am sure the Blues would be willing to include him in a deal.
- stljam

Miller has a limited no trade clause that can only include 8 teams.

Miller is that very very special person.

- PtotheY

oh ok then

Both of those guys are ufa's after this season it doesn't matter that you think he is top 3 goalie in the league or if he actually is. What does matter is that he is 33 on the last year of his contract and could sign anywhere afterwards no one is going to offer much and factor in Goalies go for way cheaper. Schneider might not be at the level of Miller yet but he could get there and is 6 year younger and had 2 years left at 4 million and he went for one top 10 pick. Miller will get a late first and a former top prospect who hasn't performed up to expectations.
- blizzzard

Lol I never mentioned anything about devil's trading possibilities. But Miller will be looking for a massive contract. Just to keep in mind. He is one of the best tenders so he can ask 6MM and up.

I guess my point is that anything can happen, but it would be a massive mistake for Buffalo to trade him without getting a major major piece back in the trade for their organization. I didn't look into Blues' players contracts, but if none of their best players is trade away to get Miller, no matter what Buffalo looses and Blues gets a major steal in the deal.

Miller has a limited no trade clause that can only include 8 teams.
- Mentalorgasm5

So your telling me the trades he reportedly declined earlier this year doesn't hurt?

Those 8 teams, ironically all are not very good, and need goaltenders.

Miller has a limited no trade clause that can only include 8 teams.
- Mentalorgasm5

Are you saying you don't think the Blues are on that list of 8 teams?

5 Bucks says Roy end up back here.

So your telling me the trades he reportedly declined earlier this year doesn't hurt?

Those 8 teams, ironically all are not very good, and need goaltenders.
- ImThatGuy

its all speculation, no one knows if he actually submitted a list, no one knows if the sabres actually had a trade in works.

and if he did already submit a list, this would actually help us and his value, because we would know right now what teams we could trade him to.

5 Bucks says Roy end up back here.
- Buffalo-Sabres

I have to say he has looked pretty good at times, when he actually gets ice time and isn't on the 4th line....

If the Blues want Miller, they'll have to pay a price, either a top 6 forward, or future prospects, and I'm certain Halak will probably be incorporated in the deal.

Regardless of Millers play Backes is that teams captain and figurehead.

Their GM would be fired on the spot for derailing a contending team like that. It would be the biggest ghaffe of all time. You would need to move a very very very special player to even justify giving up Backes.
- SiloCity

This was tried in the past in STL and didn't work at all. The Blues sent courtnall, ronning, momesso and dirk from a 105 pt team( in 80 games with no bs extra point games) to the canucks for garth butcher and dan quin. Blues lost in the first round that year and courtnall and ronning helped vancouver to the cup finals a couple of years later.

Most Blues history is painful..oh so painful...