That's what I thought but I wasn't sure what the 'S' at the end was for.
- Streit2ThePoint

His actual last name is paajarvi-svensson, he shortened it to just paajarvi so it'd actually fit on a jersey

I can tell you
He stinks, and he is overpaid, hence, a Blues fan is willing to trade him!!
- Sabresfan88

Actually, Carlo has done pretty good considering the circumstances. He was signed late and has spent most of his time in the press box. When he has played, he has looked good and also has stayed healthy.

Actually, Carlo has done pretty good considering the circumstances. He was signed late and has spent most of his time in the press box. When he has played, he has looked good and also has stayed healthy.
- Blues65

The Leafs will gladly take Carlo back - Lets say a Steen/Carlo for Stempniak do-over?

Actually, Carlo has done pretty good considering the circumstances. He was signed late and has spent most of his time in the press box. When he has played, he has looked good and also has stayed healthy.
- Blues65

Look, I understand all of that.
Buffalo will not trade Miller, unless we get a good return in value.
We will find a team that is willing to give us a fair value for him, that team being the Blues or NOT!!

Miller has been the Sabres best player and one of, if not, the best goalies in the league all year. What's your point? The Sabres get dog food for Miller?
- GilPerreault11

Miller is a very good goaltender. That said;
Miller is also aging. He will be 34 years old. He is a UFA with no guarantee to sign with the team he is traded for. He also has a NTC that he can use to reject a trade too.

Law of Supply and Demand. If there is not much demand in a saturated market, the return is not going to be great.

That is why I posted Halak,MPS,1st for Miller.

I can't think of a better realistic return for Miller.

Ryan Miller and Steve Ott for Corey Crawford, Brian Bickell, and a 1st please

"Serious" talks! Don't have the time to read through the thread, maybe somebody can fill me in. Did somebody die, get cancer, get charged with a crime? Why are their discussions devoid of levity?

Miller is a very good goaltender. That said;
Miller is also aging. He will be 34 years old. He is a UFA with no guarantee to sign with the team he is traded for. He also has a NTC that he can use to reject a trade too.

Law of Supply and Demand. If there is not much demand in a saturated market, the return is not going to be great.

That is why I posted Halak,MPS,1st for Miller.

I can't think of a better realistic return for Miller.
- ImThatGuy

You will be surprised what desperation does to teams!!

Look, I understand all of that.
Buffalo will not trade Miller, unless we get a good return in value.
We will find a team that is willing to give us a fair value for him, that team being the Blues or NOT!!
- Sabresfan88

Or you don't trade him and he leaves in the summer as a UFA and you get nothing in return

not even clost to happening
- Mentalorgasm5

If I'm GM, I'm asking, just asking about Tarasenko.

You want Miller, I want Tarasenko...
Go ahead, Ryan you are free to negotiate a potential contract

What do I have to add to Miller to get me Tarasenko?
Moulson? Stafford? Ott? Combination? Picks not in the first rd? Prospects, we're loaded

Obviously, there are salary constraints, meaning Roy has to come back, Halak probably also

Sabres need some top level young snipers at the wing

Tarasenko is where I start than come down

Or you don't trade him and he leaves in the summer as a UFA and you get nothing in return
- .....

Or, we sign him, and then trade him.

Or, we sign him, and then trade him.
- Sabresfan88

That still doesnt help the fact there are a limited number of teams can use him/want him.

He will get a full NTC in his next contract as well. He will then get a chance to nix any trade propsed.

That still doesnt help the fact there are a limited number of teams can use him/want him.

He will get a full NTC in his next contract as well. He will then get a chance to nix any trade propsed.
- ImThatGuy

Honestly, I want to keep Miller.

The bottom line is this the sabres will not trade miller for 3rd or 4th line and 4-7 d man or AHLer and mid tear prospects.

If you want Miller the you need to be prepared to give up at list a 2nd line forward and a 1st round pick and your number 2 or 3 prospect.

Or, we sign him, and then trade him.
- Sabresfan88

If I'm the gm of a team I wouldn't want someone else negotiating a deal for me

If I'm GM, I'm asking, just asking about Tarasenko.

You want Miller, I want Tarasenko...
Go ahead, Ryan you are free to negotiate a potential contract

What do I have to add to Miller to get me Tarasenko?
Moulson? Stafford? Ott? Combination? Picks not in the first rd? Prospects, we're loaded

Obviously, there are salary constraints, meaning Roy has to come back, Halak probably also

Sabres need some top level young snipers at the wing

Tarasenko is where I start than come down
- doctordizzle

Tarasenko or Schwartz are my starting points if we are discussing Miller especially when Moulson or Ott are added. I can understand the Blues fans not wanting to give up one of these two players but break it down. Miller and Halak both FA's to be. Miller is better than Halak or there wouldn't be talk of the Blues wanting him. Moulson is a free agent to be goal scorer. Blues need to score. Yes giving up one of those two young players hurt but a deep run if not winning it all would be worth it.

The bottom line is this the sabres will not trade miller for 3rd or 4th line and 4-7 d man or AHLer and mid tear prospects.

If you want Miller the you need to be prepared to give up at list a 2nd line forward and a 1st round pick and your number 2 or 3 prospect.
- mike13wilkins

You are going to be severly dissapointed.

Or you don't trade him and he leaves in the summer as a UFA and you get nothing in return
- .....

Or he signs an extension...just sayin'

Look, I understand all of that.
Buffalo will not trade Miller, unless we get a good return in value.
We will find a team that is willing to give us a fair value for him, that team being the Blues or NOT!!
- Sabresfan88

LOL.........I wasn't proposing a trade, just stating that #13 has been pretty good this year.

If I'm the gm of a team I wouldn't want someone else negotiating a deal for me
- .....

Then, you step up your game, and give fair value for the trade!!!

The bottom line is this the sabres will not trade miller for 3rd or 4th line and 4-7 d man or AHLer and mid tear prospects.

If you want Miller the you need to be prepared to give up at list a 2nd line forward and a 1st round pick and your number 2 or 3 prospect.
- mike13wilkins

Isn't that a bit overpriced for a rental ?

LOL.........I wasn't proposing a trade, just stating that #13 has been pretty good this year.
- Blues65

Then, you can keep him!

I dont see why not. It is only 550K. UFA after this season.
- ImThatGuy

The only issue could the max professional contract number. I have no idea where Buffalo sits on that number.

Like you said a couple of years ago, the market would have been a lot better.

Isn't that a bit overpriced for a rental ?
- Alexzanki

It is funny how all the people in here that are opposed to these ideas are all Sabres opponents fans in our division, and mostly not the Blues fans!
Go figure!

Miller is a very good goaltender. That said;
Miller is also aging. He will be 34 years old. He is a UFA with no guarantee to sign with the team he is traded for. He also has a NTC that he can use to reject a trade too.

Law of Supply and Demand. If there is not much demand in a saturated market, the return is not going to be great.

That is why I posted Halak,MPS,1st for Miller.

I can't think of a better realistic return for Miller.
- ImThatGuy

I'm not expecting to make a killing on a Miller trade either. I see a 1st and solid prospect better than Johan Larsson I hope.