not so sure about that.
- FlyerGuy

He might. He's lost a step, but he's still consistently one of the Flyers better defensemen, even at age 378

not so sure about that.
- FlyerGuy

I think he would. This is going to be a weak draft year. Timonen was everything you'd want as a veteran playoff pickup. All other defenseman at his level will cost more than a late first rounder.

Everyone besides 28, 35 & 14 are for sale.
- hereticpride

Yah no thanks on Couturier over Voracek or Simmonds.

While Couturier may someday be a good shutdown player I don't think he brings as many tools as either 17 or 93.

id honestly take missing the playoffs if they could trade Hartnell Streit Grosmann Kimmoo Vinny

He might. He's lost a step, but he's still consistently one of the Flyers better defensemen, even at age 378
- Jsaquella

seems like he's been around since before Lindros

It's not easier to find a Top 1-2 forward than it is a top 4 dman..

3 players on this team should be here..everyone else move em for Dan Boyle and Brian Campbell.. Then keep on keeping on with the Flyers way and make Hexy the gm.
- opeth_pa

Thats apples and oranges. How many defenseman are as good as Weber? Maybe 5? How many centers are as good as Giroux? At least 15.

Keep in mind that defenseman age much better than forwards and Weber is signed at a very good deal.

I hope Laughton enjoyed his brief time as a Flyer.

seems like he's been around since before Lindros

- FlyerGuy

He's still their best defenseman. He's the only defenseman who is a plus. And he matches up against the top lines.

I hope Laughton enjoyed his brief time as a Flyer.
- hereticpride

Cant wait for Patrick Sharp or JVR like rape again

Remember 2010!!! All we need is someone to tonya Harding krecji and jvr's magic tou... Or wait

I think he would. This is going to be a weak draft year. Timonen was everything you'd want as a veteran playoff pickup. All other defenseman at his level will cost more than a late first rounder.
- PhillySportsGuy

yeah, maybe ... a late first just seems a bit high to me.

but, either way, they just need to start making changes to this D mix. ASAP

Glad I chose to go sledding with the kids instead of watching this game. Looks like they still have their heads up the ass. Oddly I don't really seem to get that angry I find this team hard to really get that into. I've never felt less of an attachment to a Flyers team. At this point I don't really care who stays and who goes, but this poop has to stop.

Now that made me chuckle
- landros 2

You have to laugh at this point. Sustaining this many mishaps and bad decisions...I mean, when they finally do clear the defensive zone, I almost feel let down.

I've just decided to let it entertain me instead of pissing me off.

I'm only watching in hopes of a line brawl.

He might. He's lost a step, but he's still consistently one of the Flyers better defensemen, even at age 378
- Jsaquella

He's only 377. He won't turn 378 until March - after the TD.

Timo would probably garner only a second at best since he's probably retiring. Maybe a conditional first if he resigns.

id honestly take missing the playoffs if they could trade Hartnell Streit Grosmann Kimmoo Vinny
- Winning

Personally, they should've just gone that way before the season started. I think everyone had the feeling before this year that people have for the Phillies this year; the front office is clinging to a core group that just isn't getting it done.

They may be able to get to the playoffs, but they won'y realistically compete for a Cup. Would've been better to start with the young guys in the AHL who got some work late last year.

but, either way, they just need to start making changes to this D mix. ASAP

- FlyerGuy

Agree and it shouldn't be sitting Mez for undersized coming off an injury Gus...
One of the twin towers of slow would be a different story.

Personally, they should've just gone that way before the season started. I think everyone had the feeling before this year that people have for the Phillies this year; the front office is clinging to a core group that just isn't getting it done.

They may be able to get to the playoffs, but they won'y realistically compete for a Cup. Would've been better to start with the young guys in the AHL who got some work late last year.
- EducatedOpinion

they trade two cores guys and the main cog got injured
They don't understand the (frank)ing term core

He's only 377. He won't turn 378 until March - after the TD.

Timo would probably garner only a second at best since he's probably retiring. Maybe a conditional first if he resigns.
- 77rams

Brenden Morrow got Pittsburgh a 3rd and a good defense prospect.

He's only 377. He won't turn 378 until March - after the TD.

Timo would probably garner only a second at best since he's probably retiring. Maybe a conditional first if he resigns.
- 77rams

Look at guys like Douglas Murray or Gaustad or Brendan Morrow.

A guy like Timonen would garner interest from almost every playoff team. Who wouldn't want a guy like him?

Agree and it shouldn't be sitting Mez for undersized coming off an injury Gus...
One of the twin towers of slow would be a different story.
- opeth_pa

very surprised that Mez sits rather than Grossmann.

If there's one thing this D group needs is more mobility, and although Mez has his problems, he fills a need much more than Grossmann does.

Grossmann must make some delicious birthday cakes with all that icing.

Good lord, I think I've literally run out of insults at this point.

Personally, they should've just gone that way before the season started. I think everyone had the feeling before this year that people have for the Phillies this year; the front office is clinging to a core group that just isn't getting it done.

They may be able to get to the playoffs, but they won'y realistically compete for a Cup. Would've been better to start with the young guys in the AHL who got some work late last year.
- EducatedOpinion

Its a little different. The Flyers are the equivalent of having a good young offense with potential and no pitching.

very surprised that Mez sits rather than Grossmann.

If there's one thing this D group needs is more mobility, and although Mez has his problems, he fills a need much more than Grossmann does.
- FlyerGuy

Grossmann has been (frank)ing horrible today. 3 or 4 bad turnovers, dumb penalty, Flyers consistently hemmed in their own end when he is on the ice.

I don't give a single (frank) how many shots he blocks or how many hits he has.

honestly, how can we be THIS BAD in our own zone?