I don't think Holmgren gets whacked until the season is over, and then only if they miss the playoffs.

I'm not excited by the prospect of Hextall coming in, either. I'm not sold he'll bring the change in philosophy needed.
- Jsaquella

Not Whacked, steps down, if not coming to the realization he's taken a cup finals team to the middle of the pack in 3 years on his own, then maybe its suggested to him behind the scenes
AND

Hextall has to get the benefit of the doubt, he left & contributed to a cup winner, he wasn't here the entire time.

Even if he wanted to bring in a change of mindset, he would somehow have to convince the aging Ed Snider to be comfortable with it.
- ob18

Well, as Asst GM of the Kings, they whiffed pretty badly on two top ten draft picks(Hickey & Teubert). Plus the VandeVelde signing was his baby.

Even if he wanted to bring in a change of mindset, he would somehow have to convince the aging Ed Snider to be comfortable with it.
- ob18

Ed Snider seems about as open minded as my 89 yoa grandfather who wants to reintroduce segregation

Even if he wanted to bring in a change of mindset, he would somehow have to convince the aging Ed Snider to be comfortable with it.
- ob18

He wasn't brought back here, (and agreed to come back), to fetch lunch everyday, he had to agree to come back for a reason

Well, as Asst GM of the Kings, they whiffed pretty badly on two top ten draft picks(Hickey & Teubert). Plus the VandeVelde signing was his baby.
- Jsaquella

True but I'm sure they hit on some late round picks to somewhat balance it out.

It doesn't matter you know he wouldn't be my pick as the next GM

He wasn't brought back here, (and agreed to come back), to fetch lunch everyday, he had to agree to come back for a reason
- puckhead17

If I'm not mistaken something was mentioned his wife wanted back on the east coast

True but I'm sure they hit on some late round picks to somewhat balance it out.

It doesn't matter you know he wouldn't be my pick as the next GM
- ob18

Absolutely. I still like Fenton and whathisface in Boston, was a candidate for Buffalo...can't remember him for the life of me

EDIT: Jim Benning

Absolutely. I still like Fenton and whathisface in Boston, was a candidate for Buffalo...can't remember him for the life of me
- Jsaquella

New GM coming from Boston? Hell will freeze over first, or zherdev will be tapped as European scout

Well, as Asst GM of the Kings, they whiffed pretty badly on two top ten draft picks(Hickey & Teubert). Plus the VandeVelde signing was his baby.
- Jsaquella

nitpicking a little, really?

So we hope to stay the course?

Absolutely. I still like Fenton and whathisface in Boston, was a candidate for Buffalo...can't remember him for the life of me

EDIT: Jim Benning
- Jsaquella

I'd take either.

If I'm not mistaken something was mentioned his wife wanted back on the east coast
- ob18

So, he's back here for the Mrs. that's it?

nitpicking a little, really?

So we hope to stay the course?
- puckhead17

Nope. I am very pro fire Holmgren. Just not excited for the Hextall era

So, he's back here for the Mrs. that's it?
- puckhead17

I have no idea, I'm sure they said at the very least he'd be considered for the position.

I have no idea, I'm sure they said at the very least he'd be considered for the position.
- ob18

jesus, I guess whatever light I thought we had may not even exist

Guess we wait for another forward to go for another caveman defenseman

jesus, I guess whatever light I thought we had may not even exist

Guess we wait for another forward to go for another caveman defenseman
- puckhead17

Well just not sure what they can do to get them to play better team defense & land at least 2 new d-men.

The draft & develop may not be a popular way to go for many

jesus, I guess whatever light I thought we had may not even exist

Guess we wait for another forward to go for another caveman defenseman
- puckhead17

The light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train

Well just not sure what they can do to get them to play better team defense & land at least 2 new d-men.

The draft & develop may not be a popular way to go for many
- ob18

They're going to need to replace Timonen & Meszaros anyhow. They could sign one and trade for another, might need to wait for summer.

They have to avoid the short term, knee jerk fix. I'd prefer a young guy, but I'd be willing to consider a guy like Byfuglien, who is still under 30 and signed for a couple years.

Yes, cost is an issue, and it will be a determining factor.

They're going to need to replace Timonen & Meszaros anyhow. They could sign one and trade for another, might need to wait for summer.

They have to avoid the short term, knee jerk fix. I'd prefer a young guy, but I'd be willing to consider a guy like Byfuglien, who is still under 30 and signed for a couple years.

Yes, cost is an issue, and it will be a determining factor.
- Jsaquella

Buf is a role model for team defense....

Buf is a role model for team defense....
- PhillaBully

The team defense has to come from the forwards. But they also need a defenseman that can skate out of his own end with the puck and get a shot on goal from the point

The light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train
- Jsaquella

It's a bitter pill to swallow, having my eyes opened, truly opened, to what this defense truly is. I thought they might be able to pull off some kind of minor miracle, pop this team into contention this year or, at worst, next year.

I honestly had hope they could. Believed they could.

They can't. Not with this defense or the options available to them. There's no free agents out there who are going to help. Kimmo Timonen's retirement is going to leave a gaping hole in an already suspect defense, with the potential to make Coburn regress to where he was last year. You only open up gaping holes in the forward corps if you address it that way, because none of the Adirondack forwards appear to be impact forwards, at least right now.

There isn't a single defenseman in Adirondack who it is reasonable to expect to make a difference next year. It would be nice, amazing, if Alt or Ghost or someone made that jump with confidence, grace and production.

But more likely than not, they're going to look like the rookies they are, if they even make the team.

It is going to take years to fix this poop.

i'm watching the pengiuns game and i cannot believe what they are allowed to get away with. freaking unreal

The team defense has to come from the forwards. But they also need a defenseman that can skate out of his own end with the puck and get a shot on goal from the point
- Jsaquella

Buf causes more problems than he solves...there arent any easy fixes to this team..half the forwards have NMC, why the hell should they do more work.

Buf causes more problems than he solves...there arent any easy fixes to this team..half the forwards have NMC, why the hell should they do more work.
- PhillaBully

Actually, he solves more problems than he causes. When you have so called defnsive defensemen turning the puck over, where' the harm in a guy like Byfuglien, who can actually move the puck and provide offense?

Nope, let's stick with Grossmann and pretend that blocking shots is good defense.

What I don't get is anyone that suggests Hextall, Poulin or anyone else that knows the Flyers should be the next GM.

Lets go a different route because the Flyers system hasn't won a cup. Yes they are normally in the playoffs every year. That's great, time to move on.

Actually, he solves more problems than he causes. When you have so called defnsive defensemen turning the puck over, where' the harm in a guy like Byfuglien, who can actually move the puck and provide offense?

Nope, let's stick with Grossmann and pretend that blocking shots is good defense.
- Jsaquella

Buf solves problems? I thought his attitude and work ethic are always in question...Some nights he just takes completely off. You really want another lazy guy on this team? so who would you give up for big buf?