Meeqsb
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Location: Denver Joined: 10.13.2011
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This Fred Poulion?
http://thehockeywriters.com/author/fpoulin/
Because nobody named Fred Poulin cover's the Rangers. - tomburton99
I am a tad skeptical of anytime someone says they have an insider in the Avs as they are VERY tight lipped but the deal did make logical sense granted the time has obviously come and gone. |
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The 1 deal that came out of NYR had
Avs: Mcginn, Wilson, Barrie/Elliot/Siemens
Rags: Girardi, Offensive prospect (possibly JT miller or Hagelin)
And from kings I heard
Stoll, Muzzin, Vey for Girardi - Meeqsb
no NYR reporter besides larry brooks actually has any inside sources. brooks is close to mckenzie's and dreger's level in terms of credibility and being an "insider" and as far as i know, he's the only one for the rangers.
with that said, i don't think the rangers would move girardi AND our best prospect or hagelin for a 3rd line center, a 4-6 defender, and i'm not 100% sure of vey's ceiling. as far as i know, he's a prospect similar to JT miller with a gritty two-way style.
the avs deal doesn't make sense to me at all.
the only credible rangers trade rumor i heard is the rangers asking for the top offensive prospect, one of the top 2 defensive prospects, and a pick for girardi with the ducks specifically mentioned with the rangers apparently asking for vatanen, and one of kyle palmieri, patrick maroon, or rickard rickell. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Denver Joined: 10.13.2011
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no NYR reporter besides larry brooks actually has any inside sources. brooks is close to mckenzie's and dreger's level in terms of credibility and being an "insider" and as far as i know, he's the only one for the rangers.
with that said, i don't think the rangers would move girardi AND our best prospect or hagelin for a 3rd line center, a 4-6 defender, and i'm not 100% sure of vey's ceiling. as far as i know, he's a prospect similar to JT miller with a gritty two-way style.
the avs deal doesn't make sense to me at all.
the only credible rangers trade rumor i heard is the rangers asking for the top offensive prospect, one of the top 2 defensive prospects, and a pick for girardi with the ducks specifically mentioned with the rangers apparently asking for vatanen, and one of kyle palmieri, patrick maroon, or rickard rickell. - rangerdanger94
Thats good to know for the future. What do you think Girardi is worth? |
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If Callahan isn't resigned by the trade deadline I wouldn't mind sending him to buffalo for ott an armia. ott gives us some more toughness and armia gives us a really god prospect/fringe nhl player. - LETSGONYR
So the worst team in the league, that has no chance of making the playoffs whatsoever, is going to trade one of their top prospects plus a guy that they could sell as a rental for a rental that will almost certainly not resign with them? Give your head a shake man that's one of if not the stupidest comment I've ever read on here. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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this is going to be nuts until the deadline no matter what happens |
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Bo
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 02.09.2009
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Girardi to the Avs for Parenteau, Wilson, Elliot and 2014 3rd rounder? - AvsFanYeaa
Thats a little much for Girardi |
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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this is going to be nuts until the deadline no matter what happens - jimbro83
This is a surprising revelation that McKenzie brings up & I respect him but how accurate do you think this is? We have seen time & time again Slats make moves/signings that had ZERO reporting prior to said move being made (Hank extension for example).
I have been the more vocal of the move Cally brigade, or at least not sign him to a big $, long term deal. I love him & what he brings but if he really thinks this is what he will get from the Rangers he's dreaming. |
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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I have a couple friends(Islander fans) who are going tonight...good luck. |
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Bo
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 02.09.2009
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This is a surprising revelation that McKenzie brings up & I respect him but how accurate do you think this is? We have seen time & time again Slats make moves/signings that had ZERO reporting prior to said move being made (Hank extension for example).
I have been the more vocal of the move Cally brigade, or at least not sign him to a big $, long term deal. I love him & what he brings but if he really thinks this is what he will get from the Rangers he's dreaming. - B2B76
I have to agree, Cally is a great player but thats just to much cash for him. |
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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I have to agree, Cally is a great player but thats just to much cash for him. - Bo
He is one of the most "heart on his sleeves" players I have ever seen, but you can only go so far with his #s to justify a contact he is said to be looking for. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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This is a surprising revelation that McKenzie brings up & I respect him but how accurate do you think this is? We have seen time & time again Slats make moves/signings that had ZERO reporting prior to said move being made (Hank extension for example).
I have been the more vocal of the move Cally brigade, or at least not sign him to a big $, long term deal. I love him & what he brings but if he really thinks this is what he will get from the Rangers he's dreaming. - B2B76
realistically, when you look at, if Nash-Stepan-Kreider continues to be the Rangers top line for the next 5 plus years, why are are going to give Callahan over 6 million a year?
The only way we should spend more than that on a forward would be on a center that is better than Stepan and I am not convinced there are one of those out there and available to us for signing or in trade.
There isn't a bigger fan of Callahan than me, but the dynamics have changed. We actually have better wingers than him now, and that wasn't the case up until pretty recently.
If they can keep it under 6 million a year, I more than welcome him back, but they need to draw the line at 6 million, and they need to trade him and get a package back before the deadline if it becomes clear he won't lower his asking price. |
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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realistically, when you look at, if Nash-Stepan-Kreider continues to be the Rangers top line for the next 5 plus years, why are are going to give Callahan over 6 million a year?
The only way we should spend more than that on a forward would be on a center that is better than Stepan and I am not convinced there are one of those out there and available to us for signing or in trade.
There isn't a bigger fan of Callahan than me, but the dynamics have changed. We actually have better wingers than him now, and that wasn't the case up until pretty recently.
If they can keep it under 6 million a year, I more than welcome him back, but they need to draw the line at 6 million, and they need to trade him and get a package back before the deadline if it becomes clear he won't lower his asking price. - jimbro83
If he is dealt, how much does that fracture the phyche of the current team?
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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If he is dealt, how much does that fracture the phyche of the current team? - B2B76
I think they would immediately name Nash captain and the players would say "it's all business, tough to see Cally go, but Nash is our captain now"
they would miss Cally terribly when it comes to the things he does best. The forecheck, the penalty kill, the hitting. But I think there are a lot of leaders on this team, the leadership can be replaced easier.
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This is what makes me a fan and a lousy amateur GM, I am having a hard time dealing with Callahan not being with the team, the guys has poured his heart and soul into everything he does but I guess the business side is a harsh one... |
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louieblueshirt
New York Rangers |
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Location: Boca Raton, FL Joined: 01.06.2014
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There's no way Cally can be compared to Dustin Brown or Ryan Kessler except that they're all Americans. Cally does not have the talent the other two have. He is a 3rd line penalty killer who can provide 40pts/ year at best. Trade him now to Buffalo or Toronto so he can be close to his family and get some picks/ prospects. Dan G. I don't believe you have a choice. pay him 5.5M/ for 6 years. This year, Richards, Boyle, Stralman, Brassard, D.Moore, Asham, Powe, poulit, Carcillo, Faulk Kreider, & Zuc come off the books. The only players you bring back is Kreider, Zuc, and Poulit. maybe D. Moore. you have JT Miller waiting to take over for a Callahan. Fast, Lindberg and you need to lock up Staal. also that can leave you $ to get a Ryan O'Reilly. This team is soft down the middle and needs more skill. time to clean the slate. |
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The more I look at some recent deadline deals the more I say trade cally if he wants 6 million a year. The return can keep the rangers competitive for years to come and when was the last time we had more than 1 first round pick? The extra capspace will be great as well and I think JT Miller will be ready next year. The emergence of zuc on the wing has made it easier seeing the rangers without cally. I love cally and everything he's done for us as fans and the organization but I can't justify 6 million for 7 years. |
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This is what makes me a fan and a lousy amateur GM, I am having a hard time dealing with Callahan not being with the team, the guys has poured his heart and soul into everything he does but I guess the business side is a harsh one... - Blueshirts4ever
If in fact the rumored salary demand by Callahan is accurate, it's just too much. That said, he wants to be paid and deserves to be, and trust me teams will line up to have him on their team, he's going to get his money. It's going to be a very sad day for me and for the Rangers the day he's dealt. And make no mistake his presence in the room and on the ice will be sorely missed. |
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Mckenzie just said the NHL channel that the Rangers do not consider themselves true cup contenders and therefore will trade one or both if unsigned. WOW! It's ok for us to speculate that they aren't good enough, but for them to say that? This is all to upsetting, I need to go for a walk. - OLDSCHOOL#6
This bothers the crap out of me...ah hell, we won't win anything this year so why bother trying? You think the Kings thought this way in 2012 going in as the 8th seed?? Really?? |
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If in fact the rumored salary demand by Callahan is accurate, it's just too much. That said, he wants to be paid and deserves to be, and trust me teams will line up to have him on their team, he's going to get his money. It's going to be a very sad day for me and for the Rangers the day he's dealt. And make no mistake his presence in the room and on the ice will be sorely missed. - OLDSCHOOL#6
Ya, its his presence and what he means to the guys in that room and it will be received as a concession that they can't win the cup. |
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The more I look at some recent deadline deals the more I say trade cally if he wants 6 million a year. The return can keep the rangers competitive for years to come and when was the last time we had more than 1 first round pick? The extra capspace will be great as well and I think JT Miller will be ready next year. The emergence of zuc on the wing has made it easier seeing the rangers without cally. I love cally and everything he's done for us as fans and the organization but I can't justify 6 million for 7 years. - nyrangers9479
But what return can they get for what will amount to be a rental for any team that trades for him. Without a guarantee that the trading partner can/will sign him, what are you really getting back? Do we sacrifice our best chance to compete for a cup (I know its unlikely but its pro sports, stuff happens) for a couple of players who might be solid pros? Remember how close Dustin Brown came to becoming a Ranger in 2012? You think the Kings are grateful they didn't trade him?
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Pete V
New York Rangers |
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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But what return can they get for what will amount to be a rental for any team that trades for him. Without a guarantee that the trading partner can/will sign him, what are you really getting back? Do we sacrifice our best chance to compete for a cup (I know its unlikely but its pro sports, stuff happens) for a couple of players who might be solid pros? Remember how close Dustin Brown came to becoming a Ranger in 2012? You think the Kings are grateful they didn't trade him? - Blueshirts4ever
I am not sure how much they can get for him as a rental. I think that is why Sather is doing his due diligence. If they can get a ton for him, it makes a deal more likely if the Rangers don't think they can sign him. If, on the otherhand, the return wouldn't be great, I seriously doubt they would trade him and hurt their chances of being competetive this season and continuing to work to re-sign him.
It all depends on the return. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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If in fact the rumored salary demand by Callahan is accurate, it's just too much. That said, he wants to be paid and deserves to be, and trust me teams will line up to have him on their team, he's going to get his money. It's going to be a very sad day for me and for the Rangers the day he's dealt. And make no mistake his presence in the room and on the ice will be sorely missed. - OLDSCHOOL#6
the worst scenario of all is that we hang onto Callahan, we don't win the Stanley Cup, and he leaves for nothing on July 1st.
If his salary demands are too much, than Sather has a responsibilty to get the best deal he can for him before the deadline, that's all there is too it.
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I am not sure how much they can get for him as a rental. I think that is why Sather is doing his due diligence. If they can get a ton for him, it makes a deal more likely if the Rangers don't think they can sign him. If, on the otherhand, the return wouldn't be great, I seriously doubt they would trade him and hurt their chances of being competetive this season and continuing to work to re-sign him.
It all depends on the return. - Pete V
Its going to be wild around here starting right after the break |
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