the worst scenario of all is that we hang onto Callahan, we don't win the Stanley Cup, and he leaves for nothing on July 1st.

If his salary demands are too much, than Sather has a responsibilty to get the best deal he can for him before the deadline, that's all there is too it.
- jimbro83

I generally agree, but I would only take issue with taking the best deal you can get. If the best deal you can get is the equivalent of what you would be willing to pay for a rental at the deadline (i.e., what they paid for Clowe last year), then you might as well hang on to him.

The Blackhawks were brought up as potential destination last night. If we are using them as an example, I would want Teravainen and Hartman in a deal. That would be alot for the Hawks to give up, but that would be the type of return that I would be looking for. And then, I would try to swing my own rental deal to bring in a roster player as a rental for a Clowe type package (maybe a little less).

the worst scenario of all is that we hang onto Callahan, we don't win the Stanley Cup, and he leaves for nothing on July 1st.

If his salary demands are too much, than Sather has a responsibilty to get the best deal he can for him before the deadline, that's all there is too it.
- jimbro83

So much for rewarding our home grown players, who have busted the gut for the organization. I guess we're going to choose Callahan pending free agency to become the Pittsburgh Pirates.

I generally agree, but I would only take issue with taking the best deal you can get. If the best deal you can get is the equivalent of what you would be willing to pay for a rental at the deadline (i.e., what they paid for Clowe last year), then you might as well hang on to him.

The Blackhawks were brought up as potential destination last night. If we are using them as an example, I would want Teravainen and Hartman in a deal. That would be alot for the Hawks to give up, but that would be the type of return that I would be looking for. And then, I would try to swing my own rental deal to bring in a roster player as a rental for a Clowe type package (maybe a little less).
- Pete V

If thats the type of return Sather is demanding then they will hold on to him. I can't imagine the Hawks giving up that much for Callahan...

If thats the type of return Sather is demanding then they will hold on to him. I can't imagine the Hawks giving up that much for Callahan...
- Blueshirts4ever

But, that is what I think this is. You do you due diligence, you see whether someone is willing to give you the sun, the stars and the moon, and if you can find that type of deal, you just don't make it.

I don't think Ryan Callahan is getting traded for a couple of second rounders. I think Slats only trades him if the return is significant.

Teravainen and Hartman were both bottom half first round picks (18th and 30th overall). They weren't top 10 picks.

If thats the type of return Sather is demanding then they will hold on to him. I can't imagine the Hawks giving up that much for Callahan...
- Blueshirts4ever

Why would the Hawks a ton for Callahan? They know they can sign him in the summer, and be even better next year.

Why would the Hawks a ton for Callahan? They know they can sign him in the summer, and be even better next year.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

Thats my point, I know Sather has to do his job but his job is also to put the best team on the ice to try and win a cup. I have a hard time making a move that decreases the possibility of a run. In my opinion.

Thats my point, I know Sather has to do his job but his job is also to put the best team on the ice to try and win a cup. I have a hard time making a move that decreases the possibility of a run. In my opinion.
- Blueshirts4ever

That's why this whole episode must have Sather seething. This leak about him gauging interest in Cally is going to hamstring him from making any kind of suitable return. let alone the message it sends to you the fans and the team. "Well, we're not good enough so I traded him for a bucket of pucks".

That's why this whole episode must have Sather seething. This leak about him gauging interest in Cally is going to hamstring him from making any kind of suitable return. let alone the message it sends to you the fans and the team. "Well, we're not good enough so I traded him for a bucket of pucks".
- OLDSCHOOL#6

If that is indeed the prevailing thought internally, as fan I am outraged, screw that, put your best foot forward and try to win a god damn cup!

That's why this whole episode must have Sather seething. This leak about him gauging interest in Cally is going to hamstring him from making any kind of suitable return. let alone the message it sends to you the fans and the team. "Well, we're not good enough so I traded him for a bucket of pucks".
- OLDSCHOOL#6

He has got to know, however, that anytime you start floating a player around the league that word is going to get out. That is just the nature of the beast these days, and it could arguably work to your advantage by creating a more competetive situation. I don't think it will hurt what he can get in a deal. As for "the Rangers aren't good enough" stuff, I don't know where that comes from. Did a Ranger representative say that? That seems like MacKenzie just drawing conclusions by the fact that the Rangers are shopping him.

Also, could it be possible that the Rangers are trying to create negotiating leverage with Callahan by sending signals to him that it is a very real possibility that they could trade him? If he really wants to stay, that could motivate him to drop the hardline (if he is taking one), and become more reasonable. There is alot we don't know here.

I could see Buffalo getting in on this action for Callahan if he truly is available.

Would you see The Rags wanting picks/prospects or roster players?

this is going to be nuts until the deadline no matter what happens
- jimbro83

You know everyday will be the Callahan and Girardi watch until this is resolved one way or another

You know everyday will be the Callahan and Girardi watch until this is resolved one way or another
- airjan23

There will be reports that Rangers' scouts are watching "x" team. So, then we will speculate whether "x" team needs Callahan, and what prospects and/or players from "x" team we would want. That is just the way it is going to go, but at least it will make for conversation.

I could see Buffalo getting in on this action for Callahan if he truly is available.

Would you see The Rags wanting picks/prospects or roster players?
- ImThatGuy

if you mean your first round picks I would accept a deal

There's no way Cally can be compared to Dustin Brown or Ryan Kessler except that they're all Americans. Cally does not have the talent the other two have. He is a 3rd line penalty killer who can provide 40pts/ year at best. Trade him now to Buffalo or Toronto so he can be close to his family and get some picks/ prospects. Dan G. I don't believe you have a choice. pay him 5.5M/ for 6 years. This year, Richards, Boyle, Stralman, Brassard, D.Moore, Asham, Powe, poulit, Carcillo, Faulk Kreider, & Zuc come off the books. The only players you bring back is Kreider, Zuc, and Poulit. maybe D. Moore. you have JT Miller waiting to take over for a Callahan. Fast, Lindberg and you need to lock up Staal. also that can leave you $ to get a Ryan O'Reilly. This team is soft down the middle and needs more skill. time to clean the slate.
- louieblueshirt

Their comparisons are due to style of play, salary they received and importance to their teams. I have said I believe Cally may be as talent as Brown offensively, less so than Kesler but he is as much of if not more a fabric of the Rangers as Brown and Kesler are to their respective teams.

the problem is how do you value and quantify that intangible into dollars and cents?

If that is indeed the prevailing thought internally, as fan I am outraged, screw that, put your best foot forward and try to win a god damn cup!
- Blueshirts4ever

I agree. I wrote this night first in the comments to the prior blog and then in the current blog. That statement really angers me. I said: "the viewpoint that they don't believe themselves to be Stanley Cup contenders is what annoys me the most. How do you know right now based on the way you have played lately that this is not the case? I can understand making sure you don't lose an asset for nothing, even ones that have played here their whole careers and are core members of the team, including the captain, making that the driving factor, but don't say you aren't a contender given how lower seeds have contended recently." Thirty or so games left, how do you know what will happen the rest of the way or once you make the playoffs. In the past, they couldn't score, now, the offense looks more potent, which could be what's needed to move forward.

Boston traded Joe colborne (16th overall pick in 08) a first and 2nd for kaberle in 2011. Kaberle played 24 games for boston. I don't think cally for a first+prospect or 2 is unreasonable. And makes the rangers that much better for years to come. Cally is going to be on the wrong side of 30 within his first year of his new contract (turns 29 this year)
Deals like the one mentioned above happen every deadline.

Knowing Sather, guys, do we really believe that he's saying "screw it, were not good enough, so I am going to throw in the towel on this season." I just don't see that. Does that mean he won't explore a trade for Callahan? No, I don't think that it does. But, personally, I feel pretty strongly that if he moves Callahan, it will only be for a huge return (as far as rentals go), and he will acquire a roster player as part of another deal to take that spot in the lineup.

With all the above said, we still have some games left before the trade deadline, and of course, how the Rangers do in those games can influence the direction that is taken.

if you mean your first round picks I would accept a deal
- webleedblue

No, Callahan is not worth 1-2 overall. You stay away from those Reinhart/Bennette will be ours.

The Sabres have 6 2nd Rd picks in the next 2 drafts. You can have plenty of those.

So much for rewarding our home grown players, who have busted the gut for the organization. I guess we're going to choose Callahan pending free agency to become the Pittsburgh Pirates.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

I really don't think the whole thing is worth getting too emotional over until something actually happens.

Rumors will make everyone batty

Knowing Sather, guys, do we really believe that he's saying "screw it, were not good enough, so I am going to throw in the towel on this season." I just don't see that. Does that mean he won't explore a trade for Callahan? No, I don't think that it does. But, personally, I feel pretty strongly that if he moves Callahan, it will only be for a huge return (as far as rentals go), and he will acquire a roster player as part of another deal to take that spot in the lineup.

With all the above said, we still have some games left before the trade deadline, and of course, how the Rangers do in those games can influence the direction that is taken.
- Pete V

All very true and you make good points, maybe Sather leaked all this stuff on purpose to gauge how willing Callahan is to leave? Who knows?? I guess the only thing we can do as fans is watch the games, are the recent Rangers the real Rangers or just a mirage? These are questions that will get answered sooner rather than later. I just have a real soft spot for the guy and I just don't want to see him go but at the end of he day its the harsh reality of pro sports. We have seen Mark Messier depart for nothing and we traded Brian Leetch and got squat back for him and not to mention the trading of Eddie Giacomin, so these decisions have been made with players who were better than Callahan.

No, Callahan is not worth 1-2 overall. You stay away from those Reinhart/Bennette will be ours.

The Sabres have 6 2nd Rd picks in the next 2 drafts. You can have plenty of those.
- ImThatGuy

Will take all of them ... and Risto, of course.

No, Callahan is not worth 1-2 overall. You stay away from those Reinhart/Bennette will be ours.

The Sabres have 6 2nd Rd picks in the next 2 drafts. You can have plenty of those.
- ImThatGuy

It is amazing how many picks you guys have. If management strikes the right balance between possible trades and good draft picks, you guys could have a really good team in the near future.

Cap Gurus need your assistance. The SNYRangersblog had the following quote from Pierre McGuire this AM: "the problem is that they are running out of cap space and they have Danny Girardi and Ryan Callahan that you need to get signed after you just signed Henrik Lundqvist to a gigantic deal. The cap becomes an issue for the Rangers."

Per Cap Geek, the Rangers have a projected $29 million available next season including Lundqvist's extension. If you get Zucc, Cally and Girardi signed for $15 million, leaving $14 million or so, you still have Boyle, Pouliot, D Moore, Carcillo and Stralman unsigned as UFA with Brassard, Kreider, Falk and J Moore as RFA.

Anyone want to take a crack at some projected salaries and see if feasible. At first blush, I think it is, allowing G and Cally to come back with having enough to sign the others, meaning Stralman and Kreider as givens but a few others as maybes, but would love another view.

It is amazing how many picks you guys have. If management strikes the right balance between possible trades and good draft picks, you guys could have a really good team in the near future.
- mdw7413

They are building a strong defense core in Buffalo. Ristoleinen is going to be an absolute stud, and I have a very high opinion of Zadarov as well. They obviously need to add some punch up front, but given that they will draft very high in this year's draft, and probably next's, they could be real good, especially if they are luck enough to get the number 1 overall next year and draft McDavid.

It is amazing how many picks you guys have. If management strikes the right balance between possible trades and good draft picks, you guys could have a really good team in the near future.
- mdw7413

There is a point though where how many is too many. They have had i think 17 picks in the last 2 drafts and now they still have a lot, and are probably going to get more (Miller, Ott,Moulson)

They need to turn this quantity into quality.

I know Moulson an Ott are UFA's but would either be interest in part of the trade for Callahan. Thrown in McNabb (An NHL ready Defensive D-man prospect) + picks.

IM honestly not sure what Callahans value is. Being a pending UFA.