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Answering Pete from the previous post, if Callahan is seeking that type of deal he knows full well the Rangers won't pay it. So, my assumption is he wants out. It makes sense, he and Girardi are really the last of the Torts regime, and AV has delegated him to the 3rd line, so his days are numbered. Can't help but think somewhere down the line he'll come back and stick it up the Rangers a$$, hey maybe he signs with the Islanders. - OLDSCHOOL#6
Let him sign with a rival.
Hope the Rangers pull the trigger on a Callahan deal. His contract demands are absurd.
Girard, on the other hand, is not a lock to be dealt or leave come July 1st. I have a feeling the Rangers will get a deal done on him; unless a team out there is looking to give the Rangers a haul in exchange. |
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Thanks Tom, "Mr. Prospect" You & Pete should start your own website about NHL prospects. - mdw7413
Pete can be "Blue" and Tom can be "Chip". Most of my knowledge albeit limited of prospects comes from this site and predominantly those two...thanks guys!! |
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Cap Gurus need your assistance. The SNYRangersblog had the following quote from Pierre McGuire this AM: "the problem is that they are running out of cap space and they have Danny Girardi and Ryan Callahan that you need to get signed after you just signed Henrik Lundqvist to a gigantic deal. The cap becomes an issue for the Rangers."
Per Cap Geek, the Rangers have a projected $29 million available next season including Lundqvist's extension. If you get Zucc, Cally and Girardi signed for $15 million, leaving $14 million or so, you still have Boyle, Pouliot, D Moore, Carcillo and Stralman unsigned as UFA with Brassard, Kreider, Falk and J Moore as RFA.
Anyone want to take a crack at some projected salaries and see if feasible. At first blush, I think it is, allowing G and Cally to come back with having enough to sign the others, meaning Stralman and Kreider as givens but a few others as maybes, but would love another view. - airjan23
It doesn't really work...... Just tried it.
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($2.500m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Benoit Pouliot ($1.750m) / Derick Brassard ($3.700m) / Mats Zuccarello ($4.000m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Ryan Callahan ($6.000m)
Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Marc Staal ($3.975m)
Kevin Klein ($2.900m) / Dan Girardi ($5.400m)
Anton Stralman ($3.500m) / John Moore ($2.000m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $73,612,500; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): -$2,512,500 |
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210 ! - WayneY
Nice, in 219, let's see if we can try and meet up |
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WayneY
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Nice, in 219, let's see if we can try and meet up - airjan23
For sure |
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Pete can be "Blue" and Tom can be "Chip". Most of my knowledge albeit limited of prospects comes from this site and predominantly those two...thanks guys!! - Blueshirts4ever
Yeah me too. I try to follow other sites with prospects, but its a pain in the ass. |
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It doesn't really work...... Just tried it.
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($2.500m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Benoit Pouliot ($1.750m) / Derick Brassard ($3.700m) / Mats Zuccarello ($4.000m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Ryan Callahan ($6.000m)
Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Marc Staal ($3.975m)
Kevin Klein ($2.900m) / Dan Girardi ($5.400m)
Anton Stralman ($3.500m) / John Moore ($2.000m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $73,612,500; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): -$2,512,500 - mrhattrick27
Richards isn't getting bought out this summer? I'd rather see them re-sign Brassard, for a lesser rate, than keep Richards in the fold.
Callahan isn't a six million dollar per season player. There's really no debate about this. |
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Pete can be "Blue" and Tom can be "Chip". Most of my knowledge albeit limited of prospects comes from this site and predominantly those two...thanks guys!! - Blueshirts4ever
No problem guys, although my limited knowledge comes from watching the "O", so the OHL guys are the ones I can tell you the most about.
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mrhattrick27
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Richards isn't getting bought out this summer? I'd rather see them re-sign Brassard, for a lesser rate, than keep Richards in the fold.
Callahan isn't a six million dollar per season player. There's really no debate about this. - MidnightMarauder
I was being conservative with player movement. (Re-signing Boyle and Moore Pouillot to the same rates).
If it came down to Zucc at 4 years $4M per + wiggle room or Cally at $6M. Who do you guys choose? Imagine telling yourself that a year ago. |
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One thing I agree with Pete and disagree with Jim is, if the return on Cally is poop at the deadline, I'll take my chances and keep him. I will only accept signing him or getting assets back that make you excited. I can't accept trading him for the sake of getting what we can. We are playing too well right now IMO. |
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I was being conservative with player movement. (Re-signing Boyle and Moore Pouillot to the same rates).
If it came down to Zucc at 4 years $4M per + wiggle room or Cally at $6M. Who do you guys choose? Imagine telling yourself that a year ago. - mrhattrick27
I always liked Callahan but not for the price tag his camp is looking for.
I always liked Zuccarello and I am glad that he is playing like he is this season.
No brainer to give Zuccarello a fair market deal. He is in his mid-20's and, under a new system and been given a fair chance to shine, e is doing exactly that.
Callahan is heading into his 30's and is trending the same. An energy player that gets hurt and produces moderately. Sorry but that is not worth six million per season. |
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Richards isn't getting bought out this summer? I'd rather see them re-sign Brassard, for a lesser rate, than keep Richards in the fold.
Callahan isn't a six million dollar per season player. There's really no debate about this. - MidnightMarauder
He is going to get it. Teams (Like Buffalo) need to spend $30 million just to get to the cap floor.
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One thing I agree with Pete and disagree with Jim is, if the return on Cally is poop at the deadline, I'll take my chances and keep him. I will only accept signing him or getting assets back that make you excited. I can't accept trading him for the sake of getting what we can. We are playing too well right now IMO. - mrhattrick27
The Rangers strong play, as of late, has little to do with Callahan.
Nash and Lundqvist are leading the way with other players contributing much more than Callahan has for the Rangers. He is a good player but if the Rnagers can get an outstanding return, form a desperate team, they have to pull the trigger on it. |
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He is going to get it. Teams (Like Buffalo) need to spend $30 million just to get to the cap floor. - ImThatGuy
Of course he is going to get this deal.
If Clowe can get almost five million per season, Clarkson almost six million per season, Callahan will get exactly what he wants from another team.
I just hope it isn't from the Rangers and the team is proactive in trading him away before they lose him for nothing, in the summer. |
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ImThatGuy
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Of course he is going to get this deal.
If Clowe can get almost five million per season, Clarkson almost six million per season, Callahan will get exactly what he wants from another team.
I just hope it isn't from the Rangers and the team is proactive in trading him away before they lose him for nothing, in the summer. - MidnightMarauder
Saw your comment above, Do you really believe Richards is going to get bought out? |
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Jan Levine: Callahan and Girardi Contract and Trade Possibility Updates
The Captain and top-line d-man possibly on block... - airjan23
Those numbers for Callahan are insane. 7 years? C'mon...play a full season without injury before asking for that length of term. $6+M per? Score goals and put up points like Patty and Joe in San Jose before asking for that.
WTF?!?!?
I'd offer 5/$27.5. I just can't see paying almost double that for two years longer. That's just bure bullsh!t there. I love Cally, but if he insists in that contract, then trade him.
Girardi is a bit closer to what I think we'd all agree on giving him; though a tad higher asking price, but it's close to where he will (and should) stick around. |
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Richards isn't getting bought out this summer? I'd rather see them re-sign Brassard, for a lesser rate, than keep Richards in the fold.
Callahan isn't a six million dollar per season player. There's really no debate about this. - MidnightMarauder
Richards will be bought because he not worth that contract. Richards still has some game and in the right situation he could be very solid.
Totally agree, Callahan is not a 6 million guy. Cally cannot stay heathy at 29 and he wants 7 years. With the style he plays, the health issues will continue. If they cannot resign him make the trade only if you get quality back . Could Cally really excel in AV system? He is the captain and I would hate to see him go but Slats needs to be fiscally responsible.
I totally agree with Bob Mckenzie assessment that the Rangers are not true cup contender. If Hank gets super hot during the playoffs they could make a run. We are about 50 games in and this team is way too inconsistent. They need to get the parts that will excel in AV system.
I think we need to keep Giradi. if we could get him done for 5 years 25-27 million, sing me up |
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The Rangers strong play, as of late, has little to do with Callahan.
Nash and Lundqvist are leading the way with other players contributing much more than Callahan has for the Rangers. He is a good player but if the Rnagers can get an outstanding return, form a desperate team, they have to pull the trigger on it. - MidnightMarauder
From a pure Xs and Os stand point I 100% agree with you. But he is the heart of that team. I forget what players said it but they said when Callahan was out they all struggled with it.
I agree though, from a $ and Xs and Os standpoint he can be dealt and have us still be competitive. But I think emotionally, at least for this season, you rip the guts out of that team. |
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Saw your comment above, Do you really believe Richards is going to get bought out? - ImThatGuy
Wasn't my comment but I'll chime in...
Richards is having a nice bounce back year. Playing well at the point on the PP too.
He's definitely helped his cause, but he isnt worth what he signed for. As of now, still think he get bought out. |
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From a pure Xs and Os stand point I 100% agree with you. But he is the heart of that team. I forget what players said it but they said when Callahan was out they all struggled with it.
I agree though, from a $ and Xs and Os standpoint he can be dealt and have us still be competitive. But I think emotionally, at least for this season, you rip the guts out of that team. - mrhattrick27
If Gretzky can be dealt, in his prime, anyone can.
It might hurt chemistry, down the stretch this season, but it will bode well going forward.
The Rangers aren't a cup contender this season. Yes, they are a playoff team, but they aren't better than Boston, Pittsburgh or several top teams out west.
If the Rangers want to move forward tough decisions have to be made. Callahan getting dealt is an absolute necessity. He can't be re-signed for that amount and the Rangers can't lose him for nothing or a considerably less amount, than what they could have received, with a deadline deal to a desperate team. |
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I always liked Callahan but not for the price tag his camp is looking for.
I always liked Zuccarello and I am glad that he is playing like he is this season.
No brainer to give Zuccarello a fair market deal. He is in his mid-20's and, under a new system and been given a fair chance to shine, e is doing exactly that.
Callahan is heading into his 30's and is trending the same. An energy player that gets hurt and produces moderately. Sorry but that is not worth six million per season. - MidnightMarauder
You've got a hard on for Callahan, we get it. |
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If Gretzky can be dealt, in his prime, anyone can.
It might hurt chemistry, down the stretch this season, but it will bode well going forward.
The Rangers aren't a cup contender this season. Yes, they are a playoff team, but they aren't better than Boston, Pittsburgh or several top teams out west.
If the Rangers want to move forward tough decisions have to be made. Callahan getting dealt is an absolute necessity. He can't be re-signed for that amount and the Rangers can't lose him for nothing or a considerably less amount, than what they could have received, with a deadline deal to a desperate team. - MidnightMarauder
at the same time, we're assuming that cally won't budge off his $6 mil initial demands. he could most definitely accept a deal worth $5-5.5 mil if he really wants to stay in new york.
if we trade cally, we have to the potential to either really improve and change the dynamic of this team, or we could royally fck ourselves and get some crappy players that never amount to anything and we're screwed for another 5 years. |
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Richards will be bought because he not worth that contract. Richards still has some game and in the right situation he could be very solid.
Totally agree, Callahan is not a 6 million guy. Cally cannot stay heathy at 29 and he wants 7 years. With the style he plays, the health issues will continue. If they cannot resign him make the trade only if you get quality back . Could Cally really excel in AV system? He is the captain and I would hate to see him go but Slats needs to be fiscally responsible.
I totally agree with Bob Mckenzie assessment that the Rangers are not true cup contender. If Hank gets super hot during the playoffs they could make a run. We are about 50 games in and this team is way too inconsistent. They need to get the parts that will excel in AV system.
I think we need to keep Giradi. if we could get him done for 5 years 25-27 million, sing me up - esg777
I am completely ok with a re-signing of Dan Girardi. Unless a team out there overpays at the deadline, for his services, bringing him back wouldn't bother me so much.
He is durable, reliable and is asking for a fair market deal.
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You've got a hard on for Callahan, we get it. - OLDSCHOOL#6
How so?
Saying he isn't worth his asking price suggests I have it out for him? Re-signing players, that aren't worth it, are cap crippling and organization stifling.
The emergence of players like Kreider and Zuccarello make Callahan more expendable than a player like Girardi.
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So Edler for Callahan + ? |
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