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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:22 AM ET
Much needed win, regardless of the weak opponent roster.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 29 @ 10:24 AM ET
Exactly. It's the same reason why I'm firmly against bringing up AHL defenseman in "throw away" seasons. You can't gain confidence by playing against the Western Conference All Stars (the fully-healthy Chicago Blackhawks). You do it by playing against a team you can beat. You go out, play smart, hard hockey, and succeed. And go from there with some confidence.
- jmatchett383


You also don't want to throw away a season when you're holding the final playoff spot
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 29 @ 10:27 AM ET
Anaheim will be buzzing Thursday after a dissappointing effort last night from their squad. We'll see if the Flyers are ready for them
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:27 AM ET
I don't like to forward news stories, but....man

http://www.philly.com/phi..._naked_and_offensive.html

Camden County represent!
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:31 AM ET
I've said it before, I'll say it again: this defense is better with Gus in the line-up.

Hopefully he can string some games together here.

- mochoson


Do you think it would be a good idea to give Timonen a rest in the up-coming games, knowing he is playing the olympics and you will need him in the strech, and since you have a haelthy D-corpse Gus can stay in and Meszaros can play?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 29 @ 10:33 AM ET
Strange how Grossmann, L Schenn and others played so much better last night, when they kept their feet moving, and reacted more quickly to loose pucks.

Funny how that works.

- FlyerGuy


Strange how they played so much better when they get good puck support from forwards who weren't taking shifts off.

Also funny how that works too.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 29 @ 10:35 AM ET
I'll admit I didnt watch the game last night, but I still cant feel too good about all this "good" news. I mean they did what they were supposed to do, beat and looked good beating an AHL team, with a back-up goalie in net. Detroits top 4 players were out of the game. How do you think the Flyers would do if Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, and Schenn were not playing?
- youarewrong



Jesus, you can't please some people every. they beat the team they faced and beat them 5-0. what more do you want?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:36 AM ET
Do you think it would be a good idea to give Timonen a rest in the up-coming games, knowing he is playing the olympics and you will need him in the strech, and since you have a haelthy D-corpse Gus can stay in and Meszaros can play?
- youarewrong


Not in the up-coming games. They'll need all hands on deck, and they really can't afford to go into any game with less than the best lineup available.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 29 @ 10:37 AM ET
I don't like to forward news stories, but....man

http://www.philly.com/phi..._naked_and_offensive.html

Camden County represent!

- jmatchett383


That's either the opening scene of a comedy or horror movie
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 29 @ 10:38 AM ET
I don't like to forward news stories, but....man

http://www.philly.com/phi..._naked_and_offensive.html

Camden County represent!

- jmatchett383


I had to look up onanistic.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:39 AM ET
Jesus, you can't please some people every. they beat the team they faced and beat them 5-0. what more do you want?
- nastyflyergirl


I dont have a problem with pointing out the positives of last night, as long as they are tempered a bit.

All these guys had good games... They looked good. But keep in mind who was missing from the other team. Don't get too excited. This team still has a lot of wholes. And this team is more like a bunch of guys just put together, then a team with a plan.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:41 AM ET
Not in the up-coming games. They'll need all hands on deck, and they really can't afford to go into any game with less than the best lineup available.
- jmatchett383


But if Timonen is hurt, even a little, I would rather give him the rest. If he is fine, then play him, but just a little injury, I would say, sit, recover, rest. Your more important for the next 20 games then the next 3.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:45 AM ET
Gusty played a good game, but could still add some upper body strength. He gets knocked off of pucks way too easily.
- jmatchett383



As long as he can bring elements to the table that make him shine, I'm not going to harp on his physical strength. Lot of really good NHL dmen aren't particularly strong on the puck... Enstrom, Karlsson, Carle, Leddy, Visnovsky, Krug, Spurgeon... they've developed ways over compensating, and that's been enough to not mitigate their value as players.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:48 AM ET
I'll admit I didnt watch the game last night, but I still cant feel too good about all this "good" news. I mean they did what they were supposed to do, beat and looked good beating an AHL team, with a back-up goalie in net. Detroits top 4 players were out of the game. How do you think the Flyers would do if Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, and Schenn were not playing?
- youarewrong



It's not about who you play, it's about how you play.

And even with the guys out of Detroit's lineup, there were still no less than 4 Olympians skating against the Flyers, and their AHL call-ups are hardly like other teams' -- Detroit's famous for having overripe, NHL-ready guys toiling in Grand Rapids, which also happens to be the top team in the AHL right now.

Edit: make that 6 Olympians, forgot Alfie and Ericsson.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:49 AM ET
As long as he can bring elements to the table that make him shine, I'm not going to harp on his physical strength. Lot of really good NHL dmen aren't particularly strong on the puck... Enstrom, Karlsson, Carle, Leddy, Visnovsky, Krug, Spurgeon... they've developed ways over compensating, and that's been enough to not mitigate their value as players.
- Tomahawk


I'll be honest I'm not sure I offer him a new contract if I'm the GM. I dont think his game has progressed enough, and I'm very leery of his injury history.
monty burns
Location: wake forest, NC
Joined: 10.18.2005

Jan 29 @ 10:50 AM ET
I had to look up onanistic.

- MBFlyerfan



me too
yzermaneely
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Poway, CA
Joined: 12.17.2011

Jan 29 @ 10:56 AM ET
All around a pretty good effort against a depleted Wings team.
The combined home record of the 3 teams the Flyers face in this 3 game Western gauntlet is 56-12-8.

If the Flyers manage to secure 3 points they did very well.

- PLindbergh31

The Ducks have lost 3 of the last 6. But you guys won't watch the game. It's past your bedtimes, right?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:58 AM ET
I had to look up onanistic.

- MBFlyerfan


I had 12 years of Catholic School.

I knew EXACTLY what that meant....
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jan 29 @ 11:00 AM ET
I truly believe Schenn and Gus play better when they get more minutes. They were both getting a good chunks of minutes last year and they played very well. I get that, I've always felt the more I play the better I play
- nastyflyergirl



X2
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 29 @ 11:01 AM ET
which is why the Flyers will probably win 2 of 3 on this trip, if for no other reason then so they can get out hopes up once again ... before dashing them later in the year.

- FlyerGuy


I suspect this is precisely what will happen, as the money I normally have put aside for Playoff tickets has already been mentally spent on other things.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 29 @ 11:04 AM ET
The Ducks have lost 3 of the last 6. But you guys won't watch the game. It's past your bedtimes, right?
- yzermaneely


I suffer from East Coast bias and, I gotta say, it feels fantastic.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 29 @ 11:04 AM ET
It's not about who you play, it's about how you play.

And even with the guys out of Detroit's lineup, there were still no less than 4 Olympians skating against the Flyers, and their AHL call-ups are hardly like other teams' -- Detroit's famous for having overripe, NHL-ready guys toiling in Grand Rapids, which also happens to be the top team in the AHL right now.

Edit: make that 6 Olympians, forgot Alfie and Ericsson.

- Tomahawk


If you say so. You go ahead and jump back on the bandwagon. I'll wait 4-5 games and see if I see the same improvement over a strech of game instead of against a severly depleted team before I admit this team is well anything but mediocre.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 29 @ 11:06 AM ET
If you say so. You go ahead and jump back on the bandwagon. I'll wait 4-5 games and see if I see the same improvement over a strech of game instead of against a severly depleted team before I admit this team is well anything but mediocre.
- youarewrong



All anybody is saying is that they played better, borderline well in last 40mins.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 29 @ 11:06 AM ET
I suffer from East Coast bias and, I gotta say, it feels fantastic.
- johndewar


To be honest I'm sick and tired of the North-East corridor. People are rude and the weather sucks. I'll take Florida over Cali though.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 11:06 AM ET
The Ducks have lost 3 of the last 6. But you guys won't watch the game. It's past your bedtimes, right?
- yzermaneely


That is correct.
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