You'll be the belle of the ball in Florida.
- PhillySportsGuy

I'll take FL over CA any day of the week! Too many loopjobs per square mile in Cali (-(and I own a place in Key West, so that's sayin something!!) and WAY too many dbag celebs!!

To be fair, failing to play 60mins is hardly the sole domain of the Flyers. But yeah, the last part probably doesn't help breed a championship culture.


- Tomahawk

What's he doing to that bottle?

What's he doing to that bottle?
- Just5

LOL!

He is a RFA. Teams will always sign their NHL or even fringe NHL RFA's unless they are demanding a crazy term or dollar amount. Gus will have little leverage. Unless he gets traded, he is a flyer next year
- Just5

There are plenty of RFA's that dont get tendered contracts late into thier RFA years and they become UFAs.

What's he doing to that bottle?
- Just5

Turning water into wine.

What's he doing to that bottle?
- Just5

The bottle symbolizes his ego

I'll take FL over CA any day of the week! Too many loopjobs per square mile in Cali (-(and I own a place in Key West, so that's sayin something!!) and WAY too many dbag celebs!!
- BiggE

I would choose florida as well. The places Id want to live in California are very expensive. Florida is very affordable.

Turning water into wine.
- Tomahawk

That's Berubes job

What's he doing to that bottle?
- Just5

onanistic

I would choose florida as well. The places Id want to live in California are very expensive. Florida is very affordable.
- PhillySportsGuy

The bugs are bigger in FL.

But the choice between earthquakes and Hurricanes? At least you know when a 'cane is coming.

However, if I had to choose, I go northern Cali.

onanistic
- PhillySportsGuy

Nice job bringing things full circle!

He may have won the award, but we all know he was the 5th best defenseman on the team behind Pronger, Carle, Coburn and Timo
- PhillySportsGuy

Does anyone not think that Meszaros from 3 years ago is still better then anyone on this current defense, save Timonen?

The bugs are bigger in FL.

But the choice between earthquakes and Hurricanes? At least you know when a 'cane is coming.

However, if I had to choose, I go northern Cali.
- bodiva88

Because wine.

/my personal reasoning

Does anyone not think that Meszaros from 3 years ago is still better then anyone on this current defense, save Timonen?
- youarewrong

It's hard to say.

I liked Mez when he was in Ottawa and the Mez of 3 years ago played a different role than he does now.

I think Mez has a good skill set; I'm just not sure of his decision making when you increase his role.

In computer programming parlance, he's like an application that doesn't scale well.

Does anyone not think that Meszaros from 3 years ago is still better then anyone on this current defense, save Timonen?
- youarewrong

I'd take Streit from 5 years ago and Coburn from 6 years ago myself

You're not supposed to try to make us feel better about the trade, you're supposed to be gloating about JVR and his 21 goals!
- wolfhounds

Nope, wasn't trying to make you feel better about the trade. I'm not sure why the Flyers traded JVR, although there are some nights when he doesn't look overly interested. I wish the Leafs had given you Gardiner instead of Schenn, but then you would probably be cursing him most nights like I do.

Nice job bringing things full circle!
- johndewar

Does anyone not think that Meszaros from 3 years ago is still better then anyone on this current defense, save Timonen?
- youarewrong

I think Coburn is more reliable. Lets not forget that Mez was used as a third pairing guy and put in very good situations. Pronger-Carle did the grunt work and Coburn-Timonen did the heavy lifting as well.

Mez was put into a position to flourish.

Mez of 3 years ago would be a great compliment to present day Grossmann.

It's hard to say.

I liked Mez when he was in Ottawa and the Mez of 3 years ago played a different role than he does now.

I think Mez has a good skill set; I'm just not sure of his decision making when you increase his role.

In computer programming parlance, he's like an application that doesn't scale well.
- johndewar

Pretty much... if you put Kimmo in pillow-soft sheltered minutes, and gave him a steady diet of offensive/PP icetime and great forwards to play with, he could probably still put up 50-60 pts.

I think Coburn is more reliable. Lets not forget that Mez was used as a third pairing guy and put in very good situations. Pronger-Carle did the grunt work and Coburn-Timonen did the heavy lifting as well.

Mez was put into a position to flourish.

Mez of 3 years ago would be a great compliment to present day Grossmann.
- PhillySportsGuy

Too bad we don't have a time machine

The bugs are bigger in FL.

But the choice between earthquakes and Hurricanes? At least you know when a 'cane is coming.

However, if I had to choose, I go northern Cali.
- bodiva88

I don;t think natural disasters would deter me from either place. I would just be more comfortable in Florida because I'm a northeast guy. I'd be with a lot of people similar to me who transplanted.

California sports aren't great. They're pretty much Laker basketball, USC football and UCLA basketball. After that, no one really cares about much. Don't even mention he Dodger fans

Nope, wasn't trying to make you feel better about the trade. I'm not sure why the Flyers traded JVR, although there are some nights when he doesn't look overly interested. I wish the Leafs had given you Gardiner instead of Schenn, but then you would probably be cursing him most nights like I do.
- hagar58

I was having this discussion with a friend of mine about JvR.

The funniest thing, to me, about what Brian Burke said about Bobby Ryan that he "couldn't spell intense" is that he traded for JvR, who has been criticized for being NOT being "overly interested" or "intense".

I was having this discussion with a friend of mine about JvR.

The funniest thing, to me, about what Brian Burke said about Bobby Ryan that he "couldn't spell intense" is that he traded for JvR, who has been criticized for being NOT being "overly interested" or "intense".
- johndewar

That's the first thought that popped into my head as well... no idea how JvR was granted lock status, while the historically better player gets skewered.

That's the first thought that popped into my head as well... no idea how JvR was granted lock status, while the historically better player gets skewered.
- Tomahawk

One word: Speed.

Thats been the whole argument for taking worse players. They think speed is going to play a huge role. That's why Carter and Nash over Giroux.

One word: Speed.

Thats been the whole argument for taking worse players. They think speed is going to play a huge role. That's why Carter and Nash over Giroux.
- PhillySportsGuy

How much faster than Giroux is Carter?

Even if it's by quite a lot I would have G on my team over Carter any day.