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- Fountain-San

Fixed before someone explodes

Well, let's say there's a poopload of depth lacking in Hamilton.

That said, I'd say most of the players on the roster were drafted by the Habs... so I guess thats... good?
- Pecafan Fan

a big problem: from 2006-2010, of 6 first round picks, we have 1 on our roster.
06: Fischer, bust
07: McDonagh, given away; Pacioretty
08: traded for Tanguay
09: Leblanc, bust
10: Tinordi, still not close
2 busts, 1 pick dealt, 1 prospect thrown away, 1 developing very slowly and 1 on the roster.
that's not how you build a good team.

pete as a kid

he does seem like the only high-end prospect. and by "high-end" i mean potentially more than just an interchangeable depth piece... aside from Beaulieu. man Timmins gets a lot of praise recently but what a black hole we've been prospect-wise from 2007-2011. who's the exception, Gallagher?
- DoubleDown

So Beaulieu is more then an interchangeable depth player?

So Beaulieu is more then an interchangeable depth player?
- 2gals1dane

his potential is certainly higher than that.
im not saying he'll reach it. who the (frank) knows.

he does seem like the only high-end prospect. and by "high-end" i mean potentially more than just an interchangeable depth piece... aside from Beaulieu. man Timmins gets a lot of praise recently but what a black hole we've been prospect-wise from 2007-2011. who's the exception, Gallagher?
- DoubleDown

Pacs, PK were drafted in 2007, McDonaugh also.

2008 to 2011...different story outside Gallagher

his potential is certainly higher than that.
im not saying he'll reach it. who the (frank) knows.
- DoubleDown

alright

Pacs, PK were drafted in 2007, McDonaugh also.

2008 to 2011...different story outside Gallagher
- Symba007

i meant the years in between. 2007 was good and 2011 is still too early to judge.

a big problem: from 2006-2010, of 5 first round picks, we have 1 on our roster.
06: Fischer, bust
07: McDonagh, given away; Pacioretty
08: traded for Tanguay
09: Leblanc, bust
10: Tinordi, still not close
2 busts, 1 pick dealt, 1 developing very slowly and 1 on the roster.
that's not how you build a good team.
- DoubleDown

Tanguay was a good deal, then they let him go and it became a stupid deal. You can't just let Souray, Koivu, Kovalev, Tanguay, Ryder, Wisniewski etc. go away for nothing after giving away the assets that got them here at the first place. Drafting is not bad, it's the asset management that put the Habs where they are today.

Well, let's say there's a poopload of depth lacking in Hamilton.

That said, I'd say most of the players on the roster were drafted by the Habs... so I guess thats... good?
- Pecafan Fan

There is a lack of depth right now mainly because they have been throwing away picks pour réparer le toit qui coule

in both 2010 and 2011 drafts they had no 2nd and 3rd round picks.

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Now that's funny!

i meant the years in between. 2007 was good and 2011 is still too early to judge.
- DoubleDown

He gets WAY too much credit IMO but sadly, I heard the Habs are the team who have one of the highest ratio of players playing in the NHL vs draft. The problem is most of them are borderline NHLers

pete as a kid
- BingoLady

I had blond hair.

Also, I'm light skinned.

He gets WAY too much credit IMO but sadly, I heard the Habs are the team who have one of the highest ratio of players playing in the NHL vs draft. The problem is most of them are borderline NHLers
- Symba007

I'd say it's the same problem for all middle of the pack teams that always draft in the middle.

Tanguay was a good deal, then they let him go and it became a stupid deal. You can't just let Souray, Koivu, Kovalev, Tanguay, Ryder, Wisniewski etc. go away for nothing after giving away the assets that got them here at the first place. Drafting is not bad, it's the asset management that put the Habs where they are today.
- Not_Yan

i think it's a combination but that's a fair point about Tanguay. but you can't deal picks AND miss on your first rounders like that. but there were a few years without second rounders which hurt too.

I had blond hair.

Also, I'm light skinned.
- pete26

How Aryan of you.

I'd say it's the same problem for all middle of the pack teams that always draft in the middle.
- stinger67

i'm not so sure. once you get pas the top 10-15 picks, everyone is in the same boat and has access to the same players.

2011
1st round pick, 17th - Nathan Beaulieu
4th round pick, 97th - Josiah Didier (from Winnipeg - pick #78 traded for picks #97 & #108)
4th round pick, 108th - Olivier Archambault* (from Winnipeg via Montréal - Sopel trade, picks swap)
4th round pick, 113th - Magnus Nygren (from Anaheim - Chipchura trade)
5th round pick, 138th - Darren Dietz
6th round pick, 168th - Daniel Pribyl*
7th round pick, 198th - Colin Sullivan

2010
1st round pick, 22nd - Jarred Tinordi (from Phoenix - picks #27 & #57 traded for picks #22 & #113)
4th round pick, 113th - Mark MacMillan (from Phoenix - picks swap)
4th round pick, 117th - Morgan Ellis
5th round pick, 147th - Brendan Gallagher
7th round pick, 207th - John Westin*


2009
1st round, 18th - Louis Leblanc
3rd round, 65th - Joonas Nättinen (from Atlanta - Schneider trade)
3rd round, 79th - Mac Bennett
4th round, 109th - Alexander Avtsin*
5th round, 139th - Gabriel Dumont
6th round, 169th - Dustin Walsh*
7th round, 199th - Michael Cichy
7th round, 211th - Petteri Similä* (from Pittsburgh - for 2010 6th round pick)


2008
2nd round, 56th - Danny Kristo*
3rd round, 86th - Steve Quailer
4th round, 116th - Jason Missiaen*
5th round, 138th - Maxim Trunev (from Calgary - Tanguay trade)
7th round, 206th - Patrick Johnson*

2007
1st round, 12th - Ryan McDonagh*
1st round, 22nd - Max Pacioretty (from San Jose - Rivet trade)
2nd round, 43rd - P.K. Subban
3rd round, 65th - Olivier Fortier* (from Washington - Zednik trade)
3rd round, 73rd - Yannick Weber*
5th round, 133rd - Joe Stejskal*
5th round, 142nd - Andrew Conboy* (from Dallas - Ribeiro trade)
6th round, 163rd - Nichlas Torp*
7th round, 192nd - Scott Kishel* (from Carolina - Leighton trade)

Players with a (*) are no longer a part of the organization


I think it's fair to say that the 2008-2009 drafts were just horrible for the Habs

he does seem like the only high-end prospect. and by "high-end" i mean potentially more than just an interchangeable depth piece... aside from Beaulieu. man Timmins gets a lot of praise recently but what a black hole we've been prospect-wise from 2007-2011. who's the exception, Gallagher?
- DoubleDown

FIRE TIMMINS


I've meant it since MB got here.

He gets WAY too much credit IMO but sadly, I heard the Habs are the team who have one of the highest ratio of players playing in the NHL vs draft. The problem is most of them are borderline NHLers
- Symba007

Ratio in numbers.. not in quality.

FIRE TIMMINS


I've meant it since MB got here.
- WaterBoy

I knew it!

Love your Jillann stuff, quite funny really.

I knew it!

Love your Jillann stuff, quite funny really.
- pete26

Thanks !

2011
1st round pick, 17th - Nathan Beaulieu
4th round pick, 97th - Josiah Didier (from Winnipeg - pick #78 traded for picks #97 & #108)
4th round pick, 108th - Olivier Archambault* (from Winnipeg via Montréal - Sopel trade, picks swap)
4th round pick, 113th - Magnus Nygren (from Anaheim - Chipchura trade)
5th round pick, 138th - Darren Dietz
6th round pick, 168th - Daniel Pribyl*
7th round pick, 198th - Colin Sullivan

2010
1st round pick, 22nd - Jarred Tinordi (from Phoenix - picks #27 & #57 traded for picks #22 & #113)
4th round pick, 113th - Mark MacMillan (from Phoenix - picks swap)
4th round pick, 117th - Morgan Ellis
5th round pick, 147th - Brendan Gallagher
7th round pick, 207th - John Westin*


2009
1st round, 18th - Louis Leblanc
3rd round, 65th - Joonas Nättinen (from Atlanta - Schneider trade)
3rd round, 79th - Mac Bennett
4th round, 109th - Alexander Avtsin*
5th round, 139th - Gabriel Dumont
6th round, 169th - Dustin Walsh*
7th round, 199th - Michael Cichy
7th round, 211th - Petteri Similä* (from Pittsburgh - for 2010 6th round pick)


2008
2nd round, 56th - Danny Kristo*
3rd round, 86th - Steve Quailer
4th round, 116th - Jason Missiaen*
5th round, 138th - Maxim Trunev (from Calgary - Tanguay trade)
7th round, 206th - Patrick Johnson*

2007
1st round, 12th - Ryan McDonagh*
1st round, 22nd - Max Pacioretty (from San Jose - Rivet trade)
2nd round, 43rd - P.K. Subban
3rd round, 65th - Olivier Fortier* (from Washington - Zednik trade)
3rd round, 73rd - Yannick Weber*
5th round, 133rd - Joe Stejskal*
5th round, 142nd - Andrew Conboy* (from Dallas - Ribeiro trade)
6th round, 163rd - Nichlas Torp*
7th round, 192nd - Scott Kishel* (from Carolina - Leighton trade)

Players with a (*) are no longer a part of the organization


I think it's fair to say that the 2008-2009 drafts were just horrible for the Habs
- stinger67

2010 could be ok, given the circumstances. 2011 is not looking good at this point.

also, it looks like Timmins took the rest of the day off in 07 after drafting PK and left Bob in charge.

2010 could be ok, given the circumstances. 2011 is not looking good at this point.

also, it looks like Timmins took the rest of the day off in 07 after drafting PK and left Bob in charge.
- DoubleDown

If Beaulieu pans out to be a top 4 I think you have to deem 2011 a success. Hard to find NHL'ers consistently past the 2nd round. 2010 seems like a good draft year.

2010 could be ok, given the circumstances. 2011 is not looking good at this point.

also, it looks like Timmins took the rest of the day off in 07 after drafting PK and left Bob in charge.
- DoubleDown

Or the opposite ?