It was a really deep draft though. McKinnon, Barkov, Jones, Monahan already look like future stars. Drouin is averaging over 2 points per game in juniors. There are 5 players in that draft that would have been #1 in this draft
- PhillySportsGuy

You dont have to tell me about last years draft I was there. And the day of the draft, it was still possible Jones goes number 1. And no-one thought he would drop to 2. And if you would have bet he dropped to 4 you would be a rich man right now. Vegas would have given Monster odds. So Why did this happen? Because the teams went with the safer choice of a forward, just like they will likely do in this draft.

Nope... Anthony DeAngelo...
- youarewrong

It's surprising that you'd take an undersized offensive defenseman

You dont have to tell me about last years draft I was there. And the day of the draft, it was still possible Jones goes number 1. And no-one thought he would drop to 2. And if you would have bet he dropped to 4 you would be a rich man right now. Vegas would have given Monster odds. So Why did this happen? Because the teams went with the safer choice of a forward, just like they will likely do in this draft.
- youarewrong

Nathan MacKinnon was ISS number one before the year started and when the year ended. Drouin/Jones switched a few times. Barkov was the oddball.

You dont have to tell me about last years draft I was there. And the day of the draft, it was still possible Jones goes number 1. And no-one thought he would drop to 2. And if you would have bet he dropped to 4 you would be a rich man right now. Vegas would have given Monster odds. So Why did this happen? Because the teams went with the safer choice of a forward, just like they will likely do in this draft.
- youarewrong

But the offensive players in last years draft were absolutely studs. There aren't those guaranteed studs in this draft.

But the offensive players in last years draft were absolutely studs. There aren't those guaranteed studs in this draft.
- PhillySportsGuy

Agreed. I'm really not sold on Sam Reinhart at all.

Agreed. I'm really not sold on Sam Reinhart at all.
- jmatchett383

I'm not really sold on any of them like I was with the guys last year. I think this could be a year where guys who go in the middle of the first round end up being just as good as guys in the top 5.

It's surprising that you'd take an undersized offensive defenseman
- PhillySportsGuy

Why? I'm not a defenseman snob.

Nathan MacKinnon was ISS number one before the year started and when the year ended. Drouin/Jones switched a few times. Barkov was the oddball.
- jmatchett383

Jones was number 1 for the majority of the year. Seriously I would like you to find 1 person that thought... no matter what they thought about how deep the draft was... that Jones would drop to 4th. And the only reason I can chalk that up to, is teams hesitate to take defenseman that high.

Jones was number 1 for the majority of the year. Seriously I would like you to find 1 person that thought... no matter what they thought about how deep the draft was... that Jones would drop to 4th. And the only reason I can chalk that up to, is teams hesitate to take defenseman that high.
- youarewrong

Ultimately, I would be surprised to see Ekblad drop to 4 like Jones. If Jones develops into a top 5 defenseman, there may be teams regretting their decision. Even if Barkov, McKinnon and Drouin become all stars

Why? I'm not a defenseman snob.
- youarewrong

You love offense

Seriously I would like you to find 1 person that thought... no matter what they thought about how deep the draft was... that Jones would drop to 4th. And the only reason I can chalk that up to, is teams hesitate to take defenseman that high.
- youarewrong

No one thought he'd drop out of the top 3. Likewise, no one felt Nichuskin would drop to 10, or that Shinkaruk would drop to 24. It had nothing to do with their positions, but what the team felt was the best fit. Hell, ISS didn't even have Morin going in the first round and the Flyers took him at 11.

Jones was number 1 for the majority of the year.
- youarewrong

For the record, Jones was #1 about half of the year. MacKinnon was #1 to start in October through December and in the final draft ranking.

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=96402

Also, FWIW, Trouba and Gelinas (who is 22) are having much better rookie years than Jones and they play on worse teams. Not saying Seth Jones is bad, but it's not like he's the next Bobby Orr. There was no clear-cut #1 last year.

For the record, Jones was #1 about half of the year. MacKinnon was #1 to start in October through December and in the final draft ranking.

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=96402

Also, FWIW, Trouba and Gelinas (who is 22) are having much better rookie years than Jones and they play on worse teams. Not saying Seth Jones is bad, but it's not like he's the next Bobby Orr. There was no clear-cut #1 last year.
- jmatchett383

you killed the thread!

you killed the thread!
- PhillySportsGuy

It seems I have.

You love offense
- PhillySportsGuy

I actually prefer a good defense believe it or not, but this team is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO far from being about to play like Boston or LA, that I think the best thing to do if focus on getting good offense.

I actually prefer a good defense believe it or not, but this team is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO far from being about to play like Boston or LA, that I think the best thing to do if focus on getting good offense.
- youarewrong

No no no. You love offense. You like a nice 7-6 game.

Spoiler: I just figured out what Simpsons "Iconic Charcter" will be killed off. Too easy to figure out.

you killed the thread!
- PhillySportsGuy

Sorry, I was occupied. Reading my companies FMLA policies. Do you realize that even men can get a 2 week paid maturnity leave without using sick or vacation time, but a man caring for his wife with cancer must use all vacation and sick time or the time is unpaid.

Spoiler: I just figured out what Simpsons "Iconic Charcter" will be killed off. Too easy to figure out.
- jmatchett383

Homer?

No no no. You love offense. You like a nice 7-6 game.
- PhillySportsGuy

Which playoff was more exciting... Flyers vs Pitt 2012 or Flyers vs Devils 2012?

Homer?
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

Is it a bike accident?

Is it a bike accident?
- youarewrong

No...could be an umbrella accident though.

Spoiler: I just figured out what Simpsons "Iconic Charcter" will be killed off. Too easy to figure out.
- jmatchett383

I'm going to go with Grandpa Simpson... Havent seen much of him anyway.

Sorry, I was occupied. Reading my companies FMLA policies. Do you realize that even men can get a 2 week paid maturnity leave without using sick or vacation time, but a man caring for his wife with cancer must use all vacation and sick time or the time is unpaid.
- youarewrong

my dad was able to work flexible hours to take care of my mom
also it finally got to the point where he had to take family leave to take care of my mom full time, he lost his current position at work but they would have to give him another position when he came back

No...could be an umbrella accident though.
- jmatchett383

you know its not a "spoiler" unless you say it... I'm waiting for your revelation...