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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 4 @ 8:01 PM ET
By the way, nice column today
- AllInForFlyers


Thanks. It's from a couple days ago, but seemed timely. I got to learn not to waste my time arguing with folks who are legends in their own minds.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 4 @ 8:01 PM ET
Really sad to read of the passing of Keith "The Thief" Allen. Legendary Flyers GM built the Broad Street Bullies and had a huge role in the Keenan Era teams, as well. Sad day for the Flyers.
- Jsaquella


Very sad indeed.

The Flyers family lost another one of their greats today. He was not only the rock which this franchise was built on, but more importantly, a true gentlemen.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 4 @ 8:03 PM ET
Thanks. It's from a couple days ago, but seemed timely. I got to learn not to waste my time arguing with folks who are legends in their own minds.
- Jsaquella


Don't we all, my friend. Don't we all.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 4 @ 8:10 PM ET
Thanks. It's from a couple days ago, but seemed timely. I got to learn not to waste my time arguing with folks who are legends in their own minds.
- Jsaquella

Where is it? I took a quick look around but couldn't see it
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 8:34 PM ET
Where is it? I took a quick look around but couldn't see it
- Giroux_Is_God


http://thehockeyguys.net/...avid-clarkson-need-right/

The characterizations of the discussion on Grossmann are completely inaccurate, but hey that's the way it goes.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 8:38 PM ET
http://thehockeyguys.net/putting-foil-jsaquella-steve-mason-nicklas-grossmann-david-clarkson-need-right/

The characterizations of the discussion are completely wrong, but hey that's the way it goes.

- MJL


Which is your opinion it does not mean they are wrong.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 4 @ 8:39 PM ET
How is this an Iconic Character... Rumors are that this is a regular character, and the person that does the voice won an emmy for this character.... Not sure Sherry qualifies... Internet Rumor has Apu as the guy....
- youarewrong


The lady who did her voice was an Emmy. And I was wrong, it's not necessarily an iconic charcter, that was a rumor floating around. It's a woman who's "graceful and-----" I don't remember the second half. And she's "the charcter you knew but didn't know" or something like that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 8:41 PM ET
Which is your opinion it does not mean they are wrong.
- ob18


It's not an opinion when what was said is in black and white. I never stated that the stats were invalid and that they can't track individuals. That is inaccurate.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 8:44 PM ET
It's not an opinion when what was said is in black and white. I never stated that the stats were invalid and that they can't track individuals. That is inaccurate.
- MJL


Whatever you say boss.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 4 @ 8:49 PM ET
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 4 @ 8:49 PM ET
http://thehockeyguys.net/putting-foil-jsaquella-steve-mason-nicklas-grossmann-david-clarkson-need-right/

The characterizations of the discussion on Grossmann are completely inaccurate, but hey that's the way it goes.

- MJL

Yikes. That's all I have to say. Just yikes.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 4 @ 8:50 PM ET

- hereticpride

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 4 @ 8:55 PM ET
Yikes. That's all I have to say. Just yikes.
- Giroux_Is_God


Come on -- it's not that bad. All he said was that it's difficult to talk hockey when one person always has to be right.

I'll use myself as an example. I debate as hard as anyone. But when Andrej Meszaros started to play well, or at least better, I owned what I said about him being unable to play anymore.

I honestly didn't think Meszaros would earn another NHL contract. While I would assume he will take a pay cut, he certainly has shown enough to merit obtaining another NHL deal, if he wants one.

This stuff is just opinion. We debate roster moves and trades and whatever. Sometimes, we're wrong. No one is right all the time.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 4 @ 9:03 PM ET


Really. That's all I got.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 4 @ 9:05 PM ET
Oof Matt Martin just hit a Cap from behind 4 feet from the boards...not too good
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:05 PM ET


Really. That's all I got.

- Jsaquella


Just let it go.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:09 PM ET

- Giroux_Is_God




that bear has horrible possession statistics.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 4 @ 9:10 PM ET
Just let it go.
- ob18


I did, yesterday. I'm not the one who brought it back up this morning or dragged it out now.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 4 @ 9:10 PM ET


that bear has horrible possession statistics.

- wilsonecho91

I dunno man he really asserted himself when he slammed the (frank) out of that chair
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 9:15 PM ET
Come on -- it's not that bad. All he said was that it's difficult to talk hockey when one person always has to be right.

I'll use myself as an example. I debate as hard as anyone. But when Andrej Meszaros started to play well, or at least better, I owned what I said about him being unable to play anymore.

I honestly didn't think Meszaros would earn another NHL contract. While I would assume he will take a pay cut, he certainly has shown enough to merit obtaining another NHL deal, if he wants one.

This stuff is just opinion. We debate roster moves and trades and whatever. Sometimes, we're wrong. No one is right all the time.

- AllInForFlyers


Meszaros is in a pretty tough spot. Have to believe that the lack of a contract is affecting his play. I don't think he's playing with the same physical edge that he had in the past. Maybe he's trying to protect himself, because if he sustains another serious injury, that will lessen his value towards getting a new deal in the off season. He has shown the same ability to move up offensively, but he's clearly not the player he was. Which is understandable due to the injuries and the mental hurdles that I'm sure come with it. But if he gets past that, a team might get a talented player that can rebuild himself on the cheap.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 4 @ 9:15 PM ET
Milbury and JR ripping Ovechkin for being lazy
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 4 @ 9:19 PM ET
Milbury and JR ripping Ovechkin for being lazy
- Giroux_Is_God


Yeah...guy stops scoring at a goal-a-game pace, then it's clearly time to break out the pitchforks and torches
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 4 @ 9:21 PM ET
Meszaros is in a pretty tough spot. Have to believe that the lack of a contract is affecting his play. I don't think he's playing with the same physical edge that he had in the past. Maybe he's trying to protect himself, because if he sustains another serious injury, that will lessen his value towards getting a new deal in the off season. He has shown the same ability to move up offensively, but he's clearly not the player he was. Which is understandable due to the injuries and the mental hurdles that I'm sure come with it. But if he gets past that, a team might get a talented player that can rebuild himself on the cheap.
- MJL

My view on Mez is simple- unless you're gonna get something like a 3rd or higher, trade him.

Other than that, just keep him as a cheap mobile 6/7 because is a 4th+ REALLY worth it?
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Feb 4 @ 9:21 PM ET
Didn't watch these games because they were too late for this old man and also my disgust for how the team was playing. From Bill's write up it seems them put together some games here with all out effort. This is what drives me crazy about this team and really the Flyers teams for the past 6-7 years, is their inability to play a full 60 minutes on a regular basis. They seem to play well for a few games and that slowly falls apart to where they only play 10-20 minutes. That lasts a few games they get the poop kicked out of them and then they say that game was a wake up call. Repeat the cycle and call it a season.

How can professional athletes let this happen. Not saying this team is a cup team, but if they played a full 60 minutes almost ever game they would easily be a playoff team. At that anything can happen. I'm just sick of the excuses, just go out there and play like you can.

To lazy to check the stats, but it sure seems this team plays better when Rinaldo is in the lineup. Not saying it's him, but that is what it seems to me. Is that perception or reality?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 4 @ 9:22 PM ET
Yeah...guy stops scoring at a goal-a-game pace, then it's clearly time to break out the pitchforks and torches
- AllInForFlyers

Well we rip on Giroux all the time for being lazy....
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