Buy low.

If he had 40 points and a +10 we wouldn't stand a chance at getting the guy who broke many of stammer's sarna records.

I thought yak's scouting reports were pretty positive regarding defense. I think the +/- is more to do with Edmonton than anything else. The kid could use some motivation and confidence. Jmo.
- moylander

You aren't buying low. The Oilers aren't trading him for Coburn. They will want Couturier+

I feel like Hemsky is the proverbial booger that Edmonton has been trying to wipe off on the rest of the league for awhile now.
- johndewar

I don't really see a fit for Hemsky, but he could probably use a change of scenery. If the Flyers were making another move and there was a need for a top six winger and the Flyers wanted Hemsky, I would try to trade them our booger, Meszaros.

No more then you guys do with Schenn, Laughton, and Couturier.... I mean there are people in here saying you dont trade Couturier for ANYONE.... I mean come on. Besides, there are very few forwards that go 1 overall that dont go on to have all-star careers... maybe 2 in the last 20 years...
- youarewrong

I like two-way forwards more than potential high scorers. Two-way forwards win you cups.

I don't really see a fit for Hemsky, but he could probably use a change of scenery. If the Flyers were making another move and there was a need for a top six winger and the Flyers wanted Hemsky, I would try to trade them our booger, Meszaros.
- wilsonecho91

I wouldn't really want Hemsky unless my team was really hurting for offense and puck handling.

He is a +1.1 rel Corsi... whatever that menas....
- youarewrong

Really though, can someone explain what that means....

You aren't buying low. The Oilers aren't trading him for Coburn. They will want Couturier+
- PhillySportsGuy

What makes you think they wouldnt take Simmonds... I mean, they have always had a hardon for Simmonds...

I like two-way forwards more than potential high scorers. Two-way forwards win you cups.
- PhillySportsGuy

I think you need a mix. You have Towes... AND Kane. Richards... AND Carter... Brown... AND Kopitar.

I like Potential two-way forwards more than potential high scorers. Two-way forwards win you cups.
- PhillySportsGuy

FTFY

You aren't buying low. The Oilers aren't trading him for Coburn. They will want Couturier+
- PhillySportsGuy

They could want pk subban.... But they are not getting that. Coby/Luke + Read or so might be more of what they might have to settle with especially since yaks agent said he wanted to be traded earlier this season. Either way its all speculation.... But I'm in the pro-yakupov camp. Chances are he will become a stud.

They could want pk subban.... But they are not getting that. Coby/Luke + Read or so might be more of what they might have to settle with especially since yaks agent said he wanted to be traded earlier this season. Either way its all speculation.... But I'm in the pro-yakupov camp. Chances are he will become a stud.
- moylander

I know its going to take more then Read... But I would move the Schenn Bros and our First for Yakupov and Thier first...

I know its going to take more then Read... But I would move the Schenn Bros and our First for Yakupov and Thier first...
- youarewrong

They wouldn't do that.

No more then you guys do with Schenn, Laughton, and Couturier.... I mean there are people in here saying you dont trade Couturier for ANYONE.... I mean come on. Besides, there are very few forwards that go 1 overall that dont go on to have all-star careers... maybe 2 in the last 20 years...
- youarewrong

First of all, Schenn and Couturier have played close to 3 seasons, and have shown that they can do more than score goals and be terrible defensively. Yakupov is a good (I wouldn't even say great) goal scorer who...well, that's about it. Schenn is a better playmaker who can finish and hit. Couturier has proven to be a top PKer with some (moderate) offense, and Laugton was chosen to be Canada's WJC Captain because of his all-around game. Yakupov has had one full shortened season and was good, but not great. He was a healthy scratch at times on a terrible team. So yes, there is more stock put in those 3 players.

There was one person who said he wouldn't trade Couturier for anyone, and was basically punted in the balls all over the board because of how absurd that is.

I'm not arguing that Yakupov 100% won't be an all-star. He probably will. That means squat to me. Just because you're an all-star doesn't mean a damn thing. All it means is that you're good offensively, because the All Star game is all about offense. For instance, Alex Ovechkin is an elite goal scorer, but I'd take Datsyuk in his prime over Ovechkin in his because Datsyuk is a better overall player, even if Ovechkin is the bigger star.

Say no to Nail

Yak ain't worth Jack

You trade for Nail, you go to "heyll"

Stay back from Yak

I like Ike

They wouldn't do that.
- PhillySportsGuy

Framework is there. 2 top 5 picks, plus a top 15 pick for 2 top 2 picks... And you know thier GM doesnt think much of 1sts if it improves the team now...

I would move the Schenn Bros and our First for Yakupov and Thier first...
- youarewrong

So would 29 other GMs who could do that.

Hemsky for mezsaros sure hemsky for anyone else? (frank) off no way i want that oft injured plug

I think you need a mix. You have Towes... AND Kane. Richards... AND Carter... Brown... AND Kopitar.
- youarewrong

If you have good two-way players, you don't need a mix. The idea is to score more goals than the other team. If you have a bunch of players who play good two-way hockey, you will be able to score goals and prevent goals.

One of the problems the Flyers have on defense is there lack of two-way play. Berube needs to constantly juggle lines and do whatever he can to get guys out in certain situations. The more two-way players, the easier it is to deal with match ups.

There is a reason Ovechkin always scores a ton, plays on a talented team and never reaches the cup.

First of all, Schenn and Couturier have played close to 3 seasons, and have shown that they can do more than score goals and be terrible defensively. Yakupov is a good (I wouldn't even say great) goal scorer who...well, that's about it. Schenn is a better playmaker who can finish and hit. Couturier has proven to be a top PKer with some (moderate) offense, and Laugton was chosen to be Canada's WJC Captain because of his all-around game. Yakupov has had one full shortened season and was good, but not great. He was a healthy scratch at times on a terrible team. So yes, there is more stock put in those 3 players.

There was one person who said he wouldn't trade Couturier for anyone, and was basically punted in the balls all over the board because of how absurd that is.

I'm not arguing that Yakupov 100% won't be an all-star. He probably will. That means squat to me. Just because you're an all-star doesn't mean a damn thing. All it means is that you're good offensively, because the All Star game is all about offense. For instance, Alex Ovechkin is an elite goal scorer, but I'd take Datsyuk in his prime over Ovechkin in his because Datsyuk is a better overall player, even if Ovechkin is the bigger star.
- jmatchett383

+1

If you have good two-way players, you don't need a mix. The idea is to score more goals than the other team. If you have a bunch of players who play good two-way hockey, you will be able to score goals and prevent goals.

One of the problems the Flyers have on defense is there lack of two-way play. Berube needs to constantly juggle lines and do whatever he can to get guys out in certain situations. The more two-way players, the easier it is to deal with match ups.

There is a reason Ovechkin always scores a ton, plays on a talented team and never reaches the cup.
- PhillySportsGuy

Great points.

+1
- PhillySportsGuy

And also, as the the #1 picks being a sure-fire All-Star, 2012 was a fairly weak draft, with later picks (Trouba, Maata, Forsberg) looking better now that many of the top-5. And much like this year's draft, a lot of the top picks for 2012 wouldn't make the top-10 of last year's.

Framework is there. 2 top 5 picks, plus a top 15 pick for 2 top 2 picks... And you know thier GM doesnt think much of 1sts if it improves the team now...
- youarewrong

It's not about where people were picked. Its about what they are worth now. Its like when people tell me they bought their house for X amount of dollars 10 years ago. It deosnt matter. Its how much its worth NOW

First of all, Schenn and Couturier have played close to 3 seasons, and have shown that they can do more than score goals and be terrible defensively. Yakupov is a good (I wouldn't even say great) goal scorer who...well, that's about it. Schenn is a better playmaker who can finish and hit. Couturier has proven to be a top PKer with some (moderate) offense, and Laugton was chosen to be Canada's WJC Captain because of his all-around game. Yakupov has had one full shortened season and was good, but not great. He was a healthy scratch at times on a terrible team. So yes, there is more stock put in those 3 players.

There was one person who said he wouldn't trade Couturier for anyone, and was basically punted in the balls all over the board because of how absurd that is.

I'm not arguing that Yakupov 100% won't be an all-star. He probably will. That means squat to me. Just because you're an all-star doesn't mean a damn thing. All it means is that you're good offensively, because the All Star game is all about offense. For instance, Alex Ovechkin is an elite goal scorer, but I'd take Datsyuk in his prime over Ovechkin in his because Datsyuk is a better overall player, even if Ovechkin is the bigger star.
- jmatchett383

Believe me I see your point... and if we didnt have 3 young centers that were potential 2 way players I wouldnt be as up to trade for a potential top scoring threat.

And lets not forget he has only played 101 NHL games and is only 20. I like Yak.

How about Buff then?

Believe me I see your point... and if we didnt have 3 young centers that were potential 2 way players I wouldnt be as up to trade for a potential top scoring threat.

And lets not forget he has only played 101 NHL games and is only 20. I like Yak.
- youarewrong

Schenn only has 167 career games.

Couturier is only 21.

I would rather have two-way players who score 55-75 points than a one way player who score 80 every year.

It's not about where people were picked. Its about what they are worth now. Its like when people tell me they bought their house for X amount of dollars 10 years ago. It deosnt matter. Its how much its worth NOW
- PhillySportsGuy

Are you telling me you'd rather have Patrice Bergeron or Shea Weber over MAF, or Claude Giroux over Erik Johnson, or Henrik Lundvqist over DiPietro, or Henrik Zetterberg over Patrik Stefan, or Pavel Datsyuk over Lecavalier? Because that's crazy, #1 picks are always the best.