If Lou thinks a jello-head, unproductive, old IR monger like Camms is the answer, he needs to hang it up.

Make a good move for a younger top-6 guy who can play in NJ for seasons to come or don't make a move at all.

Status quo is better than a horrible move for an old washed-up player. Or worse yet, another move for some nostalgia with another "he used to play for NJ" dumpster dive. If we're going to move assets, do it to improve the future not one throw away season. They could potentially have Cory in net for the future (provided he doesnt bolt for his hometown), why waste (yes it's a waste) what few assets NJ does have on a crap rental.

Time like these, when everything looks bleak, I just remind myself at least we aren't Edmonton or Calgary fans. We're all talking about the sky falling cause we're gunna miss the playoffs two years in a row. Imagine if we had to endure what they do.
- TheJerseyDevil1

isles but at least their team is exciting, so is their ownership

I think Pete is a great coach. Only issue I have had with him is how he handled the goaltending situation at times. Not like this team was projected to make the playoffs with this roster. People complain about Gelinas not being up, but honestly he is a liability defensively. Needs to work on his defensive game big time. Being 1 dimensional will only get you so far. It was a good decision to let him get minutes in Albany rather than 5 here.

Time like these, when everything looks bleak, I just remind myself at least we aren't Edmonton or Calgary fans. We're all talking about the sky falling cause we're gunna miss the playoffs two years in a row. Imagine if we had to endure what they do.
- TheJerseyDevil1

Make a good move for a younger top-6 guy who can play in NJ for seasons to come or don't make a move at all.

Status quo is better than a horrible move for an old washed-up player. Or worse yet, another move for some nostalgia with another "he used to play for NJ" dumpster dive. If we're going to move assets, do it to improve the future not one throw away season. They could potentially have Cory in net for the future (provided he doesnt bolt for his hometown), why waste (yes it's a waste) what few assets NJ does have on a crap rental.
- FLdevilsFAN

Panik

Panik
- shvingter88

Palat?

Tampa could use Marty, Lindback has been crap.

Brodeur, picks, plus a defenseman for Palat?

Stamkos is back they dont need him.

Tampa could use Marty, Lindback has been crap.

Brodeur, picks, plus a defenseman for Palat?

Stamkos is back they dont need him.
- FLdevilsFAN

That defenseman better be mediocre. Picks are a bit much.

I really don't understand how the Leafs have so many points. They're getting completely outclassed by the panthers right now. If they somehow make the playoffs Bernier should probably be in the running for MVP

albany lost 4-0

looks like we have no offense anywhere

If it doesn't involve Larsson Merrill gelinas or Greene, I'm all for it. 31 isn't old. As previously mentioned, he's averaging about 27 goals on a weak Calgary team. Without the injury he'd probably get 30. He'd be with the likes of Elias or Jagr in NJ, far better players than Backlund or Hudler. If we re-sign him for 3 more years I'm happy with it. He's a 30 goal scorer.
31-34 isn't an age that concerns me. It's 34+ where I see risk. If Calgary takes back one of Salvador or Volchenkov, it's an automatic win. I'd throw in a 3rd and one of Josefson, Tedenby, Lokti, Whitney, to make that deal, and I like Josefson. Cam is an upgrade over Brunner and maybe Ryder. I think he'd be a good fit anywhere in the top 6. I don't think he's as old or bad as some of u. Maybe his negatives are accentuated because of the drop off from the great production he once had, but he'd still improve our top 6. How is he in shootouts?

What's your opinions on Gagner? Maybe he'd be a better option because of his age.

If it doesn't involve Larsson Merrill gelinas or Greene, I'm all for it. 31 isn't old. As previously mentioned, he's averaging about 27 goals on a weak Calgary team. Without the injury he'd probably get 30. He'd be with the likes of Elias or Jagr in NJ, far better players than Backlund or Hudler. If we re-sign him for 3 more years I'm happy with it. He's a 30 goal scorer.
31-34 isn't an age that concerns me. It's 34+ where I see risk. If Calgary takes back one of Salvador or Volchenkov, it's an automatic win. I'd throw in a 3rd and one of Josefson, Tedenby, Lokti, Whitney, to make that deal, and I like Josefson. Cam is an upgrade over Brunner and maybe Ryder. I think he'd be a good fit anywhere in the top 6. I don't think he's as old or bad as some of u. Maybe his negatives are accentuated because of the drop off from the great production he once had, but he'd still improve our top 6. How is he in shootouts?

What's your opinions on Gagner? Maybe he'd be a better option because of his age.
- MartysBetter88

I like Gagner a lot more but I never knew where we intended to put him. Either keep Henrique as a 3rd liner or move Gagner to wing?

If it doesn't involve Larsson Merrill gelinas or Greene, I'm all for it. 31 isn't old. As previously mentioned, he's averaging about 27 goals on a weak Calgary team. Without the injury he'd probably get 30. He'd be with the likes of Elias or Jagr in NJ, far better players than Backlund or Hudler. If we re-sign him for 3 more years I'm happy with it. He's a 30 goal scorer.
31-34 isn't an age that concerns me. It's 34+ where I see risk. If Calgary takes back one of Salvador or Volchenkov, it's an automatic win. I'd throw in a 3rd and one of Josefson, Tedenby, Lokti, Whitney, to make that deal, and I like Josefson. Cam is an upgrade over Brunner and maybe Ryder. I think he'd be a good fit anywhere in the top 6. I don't think he's as old or bad as some of u. Maybe his negatives are accentuated because of the drop off from the great production he once had, but he'd still improve our top 6. How is he in shootouts?

What's your opinions on Gagner? Maybe he'd be a better option because of his age.
- MartysBetter88

At 5'9 and the way he is declining it is way to big of a risk. I would give literally nothing of value for him he is not the type of player we need to be giving up a first or top propsect for. Also Calgary is in a rebuild and they will want as much for their rental player as buffalo will for Moulson, Bruke isn't an idiot and he usually does pretty good on his trades. If we are going to be giving up a first or a top prospect we might as well go all in and throw a lot more in for a franchise player instead of a slightly better stop gap. Not to mention he is a pretty selfish player. I don't like the idea at all we need to go big or go home adding Cami and losing one of our stud D or a first would be a huge step back for us and it would only take 1-2 years to catch up. We might as well keep all our assets or put one hell of a package together for a guy 25 or younger. Also there is the chance Lou gives out another stupid contract to sign a guy who has had concussions and is on the decline how many more of these guys do we need? and how many atrocious contracts do we need?

At 5'9 and the way he is declining it is way to big of a risk. I would give literally nothing of value for him he is not the type of player we need to be giving up a first or top propsect for. Also Calgary is in a rebuild and they will want as much for their rental player as buffalo will for Moulson, Bruke isn't an idiot and he usually does pretty good on his trades. If we are going to be giving up a first or a top prospect we might as well go all in and throw a lot more in for a franchise player instead of a slightly better stop gap. Not to mention he is a pretty selfish player. I don't like the idea at all we need to go big or go home adding Cami and losing one of our stud D or a first would be a huge step back for us and it would only take 1-2 years to catch up. We might as well keep all our assets or put one hell of a package together for a guy 25 or younger. Also there is the chance Lou gives out another stupid contract to sign a guy who has had concussions and is on the decline how many more of these guys do we need? and how many atrocious contracts do we need?
- blizzzard

I already prefaced my comment by saying that I wouldn't do it if it involves Merrill, Larsson, Gelinas.
Which 25 or younger player would you like to acquire that you think is available?
using the word "atrocious" is a bit of a stretch. He's on pace for 27 goals playing in CALGARY with BACKLUND. He's not atrocious. 31 years old isn't atrocious. I think your catastrophic comment is atrocious! lol

I really don't understand how the Leafs have so many points. They're getting completely outclassed by the panthers right now. If they somehow make the playoffs Bernier should probably be in the running for MVP
- bobert836

Shoot out specialists

Jaromir Jagr isn't happy that Devils coach Pete DeBoer decided to change the top line.
Jagr is naturally still on the line, but Travis Zajac was replaced with Andrei Loktionov. "It doesn't make sense to me and I don't want to talk about it either," said Jagr. "I don't really (care) either." DeBoer is aware that Jagr prefers consistent lines and was reluctant to make the change as a result. Still, as good as Jagr has been this season, who plays where is obviously DeBoer's call. The Devils offense has been a sore point all season and given that, it makes sense that DeBoer would want to try out different combinations.
Source: The Bergen Record

I think Jagr needs to pipe down, we need to try anything at this point.

Calgary isn't moving Cammy for a 3rd and 1 of 2 over paid #4/5 defensemen, in Salvador or Volchenkov & a player that isn't an NHL player in any of those players you mentioned.

Palat plays LW & will play with Stamkos & StLouis when Stamkos returns.

Dreaming is great but but NJ has very little to give up to acquire help. Moving any of the existing assets that actually have value only creates a hole else where. The cupboard is bare. What few prospects; Merrill, Gelinas, Larsson, Boucher, Matteau & possibly Pietila as a checker, NJ has coming need to be developed to fill the spots that will be vacated when the likes of Volchekov, Salvador, Zidlicky, Jagr, Ryder & Elias move on or are to old to play any longer & retire.

I had NJ to make the playoff's this season at #7 in the east & still feel they can make it.

Sorry I couldn't weigh in yesterday. I got bained for 48 hours for calling Garth an i----. I'm simply going to stop reading that hommer moving forward.

As for Cordell wanting to let Deboer off the hook. Not a chance in hell. The problem is Lou but a coach needs to have the balls to do what's right & Deboer beats to Lou's wishes & Lou lost it many years ago. The personal decissions as to who plays & doesn't, who plays with who, etc are Deboer's & those decissions have been seriously flawed.

It is a system's issue. NJ has generated less shots per game than any team in the NHL & the quality of those shots is even worse, they are 26th for goals for, have the 29th worst face off % in the NHL putting them with out the puck off the get go far to often. Deboer keeps trying to squeeze square pegs into round holes. His personal decissions are mind boggling. Having Bernier on the ice they other night with under 2 mins to go is shameful. He couldn't contain a beachball & shouldn't even be in the NHL at this point of his career. The only thing Bernier brings to the rink is his 6'3" 220 lb frame & his 1.649 hits per game. He has the worst plus minus on this team at -15. No other player is even close. Thankfully with everyone essentially healthy now at leastBernier isn't getting power play time now.

NJ needs to scrap the bargain bin & get a player for free, giving up a 5th, 6th, or 7th round pick. I ran through this before. Players like Cleary, Bertuzzi, Smyth, etc. We just need another player NHL quality player that has enough left in the tank to finish off this season & the playoffs.

Thoughts from the bench.

Striker.

Jaromir Jagr isn't happy that Devils coach Pete DeBoer decided to change the top line.
Jagr is naturally still on the line, but Travis Zajac was replaced with Andrei Loktionov. "It doesn't make sense to me and I don't want to talk about it either," said Jagr. "I don't really (care) either." DeBoer is aware that Jagr prefers consistent lines and was reluctant to make the change as a result. Still, as good as Jagr has been this season, who plays where is obviously DeBoer's call. The Devils offense has been a sore point all season and given that, it makes sense that DeBoer would want to try out different combinations.
Source: The Bergen Record

I think Jagr needs to pipe down, we need to try anything at this point.
- FAZOOL

I think its good he's pissed. Him and Elias seem to be the only ones that realize status quo is not good enough.

I think its good he's pissed. Him and Elias seem to be the only ones that realize status quo is not good enough.
- rmdevil313

which is why we should bring him back for another year. The guy is never going to slow down!

Calgary isn't moving Cammy for a 3rd and 1 of 2 over paid #4/5 defensemen, in Salvador or Volchenkov & a player that isn't an NHL player in any of those players you mentioned.

Palat plays LW & will play with Stamkos & StLouis when Stamkos returns.

Dreaming is great but but NJ has very little to give up to acquire help. Moving any of the existing assets that actually have value only creates a hole else where. The cupboard is bare. What few prospects; Merrill, Gelinas, Larsson, Boucher, Matteau & possibly Pietila as a checker, NJ has coming need to be developed to fill the spots that will be vacated when the likes of Volchekov, Salvador, Zidlicky, Jagr, Ryder & Elias move on or are to old to play any longer & retire.

I had NJ to make the playoff's this season at #7 in the east & still feel they can make it.

Sorry I couldn't weigh in yesterday. I got bained for 48 hours for calling Garth an i----. I'm simply going to stop reading that hommer moving forward.

As for Cordell wanting to let Deboer off the hook. Not a chance in hell. The problem is Lou but a coach needs to have the balls to do what's right & Deboer beats to Lou's wishes & Lou lost it many years ago. The personal decissions as to who plays & doesn't, who plays with who, etc are Deboer's & those decissions have been seriously flawed.

It is a system's issue. NJ has generated less shots per game than any team in the NHL & the quality of those shots is even worse, they are 26th for goals for, have the 29th worst face off % in the NHL putting them with out the puck off the get go far to often. Deboer keeps trying to squeeze square pegs into round holes. His personal decissions are mind boggling. Having Bernier on the ice they other night with under 2 mins to go is shameful. He couldn't contain a beachball & shouldn't even be in the NHL at this point of his career. The only thing Bernier brings to the rink is his 6'3" 220 lb frame & his 1.649 hits per game. He has the worst plus minus on this team at -15. No other player is even close. Thankfully with everyone essentially healthy now at leastBernier isn't getting power play time now.

NJ needs to scrap the bargain bin & get a player for free, giving up a 5th, 6th, or 7th round pick. I ran through this before. Players like Cleary, Bertuzzi, Smyth, etc. We just need another player NHL quality player that has enough left in the tank to finish off this season & the playoffs.

Thoughts from the bench.

Striker.
- striker777

some good thoughts from the bench. can't argue with you. Like I said, if we can get him without giving up anything of real value then I'm down for it.. even if it costs us 5mil over the next 4 years. I know that's unlikely, but that was my premise. I don't think Cam would be a bad player to have on this team. That is what I'm arguing, not how we should acquire him.

which is why we should bring him back for another year. The guy is never going to slow down!
- MartysBetter88

Agreed. Jagr doesn't need to worry about slowing down because he can't speed up. No foot speed at this point of his career but still has offensive skills & can dangle. Very few other NJ players have any speed either so not like he can't keep up to the pace. Ha-ha!

I'm all for brining him back for another season but Jagr's in it for the money. Which ever team is willing to pay the most is the team he signs with.

Agreed. Jagr doesn't need to worry about slowing down because he can't speed up. No foot speed at this point of his career but still has offensive skills & can dangle. Very few other NJ players have any speed either so not like he can't keep up to the pace. Ha-ha!

I'm all for brining him back for another season but Jagr's in it for the money. Which ever team is willing to pay the most is the team he signs with.
- striker777

Against Colorado he was moving as fast as anyone not named MacKinnon or Duchane. He'd circle all around their defensive zone.. dangling around people, protecting the puck with his body, making plays, OWNING THE ICE.. at 42! insane.

Calgary isn't moving Cammy for a 3rd and 1 of 2 over paid #4/5 defensemen, in Salvador or Volchenkov & a player that isn't an NHL player in any of those players you mentioned.

Palat plays LW & will play with Stamkos & StLouis when Stamkos returns.

Dreaming is great but but NJ has very little to give up to acquire help. Moving any of the existing assets that actually have value only creates a hole else where. The cupboard is bare. What few prospects; Merrill, Gelinas, Larsson, Boucher, Matteau & possibly Pietila as a checker, NJ has coming need to be developed to fill the spots that will be vacated when the likes of Volchekov, Salvador, Zidlicky, Jagr, Ryder & Elias move on or are to old to play any longer & retire.

I had NJ to make the playoff's this season at #7 in the east & still feel they can make it.

Sorry I couldn't weigh in yesterday. I got bained for 48 hours for calling Garth an i----. I'm simply going to stop reading that hommer moving forward.

As for Cordell wanting to let Deboer off the hook. Not a chance in hell. The problem is Lou but a coach needs to have the balls to do what's right & Deboer beats to Lou's wishes & Lou lost it many years ago. The personal decissions as to who plays & doesn't, who plays with who, etc are Deboer's & those decissions have been seriously flawed.

It is a system's issue. NJ has generated less shots per game than any team in the NHL & the quality of those shots is even worse, they are 26th for goals for, have the 29th worst face off % in the NHL putting them with out the puck off the get go far to often. Deboer keeps trying to squeeze square pegs into round holes. His personal decissions are mind boggling. Having Bernier on the ice they other night with under 2 mins to go is shameful. He couldn't contain a beachball & shouldn't even be in the NHL at this point of his career. The only thing Bernier brings to the rink is his 6'3" 220 lb frame & his 1.649 hits per game. He has the worst plus minus on this team at -15. No other player is even close. Thankfully with everyone essentially healthy now at leastBernier isn't getting power play time now.

NJ needs to scrap the bargain bin & get a player for free, giving up a 5th, 6th, or 7th round pick. I ran through this before. Players like Cleary, Bertuzzi, Smyth, etc. We just need another player NHL quality player that has enough left in the tank to finish off this season & the playoffs.

Thoughts from the bench.

Striker.
- striker777

Panik

Against Colorado he was moving as fast as anyone not named MacKinnon or Duchane. He'd circle all around their defensive zone.. dangling around people, protecting the puck with his body, making plays, OWNING THE ICE.. at 42! insane.
- MartysBetter88

Which is why we should probably trade him why his value is still high.
Let's face it we're not going to the playoffs and if we do happen to make it you think Jagr will have much left in the tank? He's already logging tons of minutes plus he'll be playing in the olympics.