It flat-out can't be Schenn -- he's averaging less than 16 minutes per night. He's the one being shielded.

Coburn-Timonen sees the toughest matchups, but Grossmann-Streit are the second pair, by quite a large margin.
- AllInForFlyers

Meszaros and Gill should be our new top pair.

My dad worked a full day of climbing trees and carrying 200+ pound logs with a broken foot. That's because my dad's the man. That still amazes me.
- jmatchett383

Its amazing what I see.. the pain tolerance some have is literally borderline supernatural.

We had a kid break his leg (fibula, which is non-weightbearing and plays a part in this) early in the first quarter of a Penn Football game.. He didnt pull himself out until mid way through the third quarter. Insane.

Meszaros and Gill should be our new top pair.
- jmatchett383

You jest, but that's about what we were left with in 2004.

You jest, but that's about what we were left with in 2004.

- AllInForFlyers

It's a shame. Any sort of luck with injuries and we probably win the Cup that season.

It's a shame. Any sort of luck with injuries and we probably win the Cup that season.
- jmatchett383

no doubt about it

He'll be playing on this team
- PhillySportsGuy

He might be traded after they pay him his $2m 16-17 signing bonus. Some cap floor team can get a $5.25m cap hit and only have to pay him $2m in salary.

no doubt about it
- jak521

Yeah. Just...yeah.

Meszaros and Gill should be our new top pair.
- jmatchett383

Homer thought about it

Meszaros and Gill should be our new top pair.
- jmatchett383

You misspelled "Oliver Lauridsen".

You misspelled "Oliver Lauridsen".
- johndewar

Oh man, how the heck did I forget.

Lauridsen - Lauridsen
Lauridsen - Lauridsen
Timonen - Lauridsen

Does that take powerplays into consideration?
- wolfhounds

No those numbers were on 5 on 5 play.

It flat-out can't be Schenn -- he's averaging less than 16 minutes per night. He's the one being shielded.

Coburn-Timonen sees the toughest matchups, but Grossmann-Streit are the second pair, by quite a large margin.
- AllInForFlyers

Probably, but the disparity maybe isn't as drastic as it seems because Schenn gets zero powerplay time. I'm not even sure how much pk time he gets.

Oh man, how the heck did I forget.

Lauridsen - Lauridsen
Lauridsen - Lauridsen
Timonen - Lauridsen
- jmatchett383

He's pretty big, and Danish. He can handle it.

It flat-out can't be Schenn -- he's averaging less than 16 minutes per night. He's the one being shielded.

Coburn-Timonen sees the toughest matchups, but Grossmann-Streit are the second pair, by quite a large margin.
- AllInForFlyers

Luke Schenn is playing a good amount of tough minutes on the PK, and is playing it well.

Probably, but the disparity probably isn't as drastic as it seems because Schenn gets zero powerplay time. I'm not even sure how much pk time he gets.
- wolfhounds

Schenn had been playing more (it seems) over the last few games. I think he had some big-minute games on the WC trip.

He's pretty big, and Danish. He can handle it.
- wolfhounds

It all depends on whether or not the NHL decides to crack down on the "battleaxe to the head" penalties or not. They've already banned warhammers from the game, which limits his effectivess.

So Raffl......3 yrs 3.3 million.....sound good to everyone?

It all depends on whether or not the NHL decides to crack down on the "battleaxe to the head" penalties or not. They've already banned warhammers from the game, which limits his effectivess.
- jmatchett383

Man, the sissification of the NHL continues. I assume morningstars are still legal to carry on the ice?

Probably, but the disparity maybe isn't as drastic as it seems because Schenn gets zero powerplay time. I'm not even sure how much pk time he gets.
- wolfhounds

For me...I see it the other way -- with the Flyers penalized as much as they are/can be, for Schenn to still be under 16 minutes a night...that says a lot about his 5v5 usage.

Without having the numbers in front of me, but knowing that Grossmann gets a metric poop-ton of defensive zone starts, and Streit's been his partner for, what...40-ish games now...I'd guess that Streit has tougher starts, overall, than Schenn does. Might not be by much, but Streit's not making all of that up on the PP, since he's on the 2nd unit.

That team seems cursed.
I hope Letang is ok that is horrible news

You can't play hockey on blood thinners
He will need to get the septal defect in his heart fixed before playing again

What I'm saying is him coming back in six weeks seems way too optimistic
- Marc D

lord.

So Raffl......3 yrs 3.3 million.....sound good to everyone?
- Just5

Yup, seems quite reasonable to me.

You think he's a 10-15 goal 3rd line player?

Obviously he's pretty good defensively and on the pk. And if I'm Berube, and for some reason I'm thinking about Downie instead of Read on our 2nd PP unit, I'm giving Raffl a shot instead.

For me...I see it the other way -- with the Flyers penalized as much as they are/can be, for Schenn to still be under 16 minutes a night...that says a lot about his 5v5 usage.

Without having the numbers in front of me, but knowing that Grossmann gets a metric poop-ton of defensive zone starts, and Streit's been his partner for, what...40-ish games now...I'd guess that Streit has tougher starts, overall, than Schenn does. Might not be by much, but Streit's not making all of that up on the PP, since he's on the 2nd unit.
- AllInForFlyers

Luke Schenn plays more at ES per game then Timonen does.

Look, Schenn's minutes being down this year are his own fault. He came in and wasn't ready to play in the early Season. The Coaches went with a rotation that has been the same all year petty much. Schenn has improved as the year has gone on, but enough to significantly change the rotation and minutes played overall.

For me...I see it the other way -- with the Flyers penalized as much as they are/can be, for Schenn to still be under 16 minutes a night...that says a lot about his 5v5 usage.

Without having the numbers in front of me, but knowing that Grossmann gets a metric poop-ton of defensive zone starts, and Streit's been his partner for, what...40-ish games now...I'd guess that Streit has tougher starts, overall, than Schenn does. Might not be by much, but Streit's not making all of that up on the PP, since he's on the 2nd unit.
- AllInForFlyers

No doubt, you could be right. It would be interesting to see an advanced breakdown of minutes for our defensemen.

Man, the sissification of the NHL continues. I assume morningstars are still legal to carry on the ice?
- wolfhounds

Yes, in most of the European leagues. The AHL is experimenting with the banning of poison daggers. Results have been mixed at best.

Yup, seems quite reasonable to me.

You think he's a 10-15 goal 3rd line player?

Obviously he's pretty good defensively and on the pk. And if I'm Berube, and for some reason I'm thinking about Downie instead of Read on our 2nd PP unit, I'm giving Raffl a shot instead.
- wolfhounds

yeah 10-15 easy. I'm guessing they could form a super shutdown line of Raffl-Cooter-Read in the playoffs. But I've liked Raffl on the 1st line, liked him on the 4th line. He's been the same effective player anywhere. So really it doesn't matter how you view where he fits, he can plug in anywhere it seems. What a good player