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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:01 PM ET
Petry for B Schenn?
- Just5


Absolutely not!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 7 @ 9:02 PM ET
Petry for B Schenn?
- Just5


Not for me, no -- Schenn's worth more, even with the ridiculous prices for D
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Feb 7 @ 9:03 PM ET
Or keep both and don't make a deal just because it fills a need this second.
- Jsaquella

That would be my choice, keep the young core guys and have some patience see how they develop.

But this team is as about as patient as the majority of it's fans. So if they do trade a young guy, i rather it not be the two already in the NHL. Although of course i realize Brayden has more value than Laughton.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 9:04 PM ET
Petry for B Schenn?
- Just5


Too much, IMO...Petry's sort of like a middle class man's Coburn, or as I saw it put tonight on twitter, Coburn-lite. Solid guy, not worth Schenn.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 7 @ 9:04 PM ET
I'm not advocating trading B Schenn. He is definitely not an untouchable. But really he seems to be on par as the #2 center for the future of this team. I think he's done a good job, especially with the shuffling of players on his line and many times the poor play of Vinny on his wing.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Feb 7 @ 9:05 PM ET
Carolina spanking the lowly panthers.

And of course it's looking like Jersey will go into OT and maybe even the Rags game.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
Too much, IMO...Petry's sort of like a middle class man's Coburn, or as I saw it put tonight on twitter, Coburn-lite. Solid guy, not worth Schenn.
- Jsaquella


Demand their 1st round pick, it's #2 right now I believe.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
That would be my choice, keep the young core guys and have some patience see how they develop.

But this team is as about as patient as the majority of it's fans. So if they do trade a young guy, i rather it not be the two already in the NHL. Although of course i realize Brayden has more value than Laughton.

- Yosimar89


Hey if they can get Schultz for Laughton+, I'm there. It's a fair value. What I want to avoid is something like the Schenns for Hemsky & Petry.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
Demand their 1st round pick, it's #2 right now I believe.
- ob18


That's a deal you make at the draft, in front of the drunks who escape Xfinity Live
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:07 PM ET
That's a deal you make at the draft, in front of the drunks who escape Xfinity Live
- Jsaquella


And one even the Oilers would be crazy to make.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:08 PM ET
I'm not advocating trading B Schenn. He is definitely not an untouchable. But really he seems to be on par as the #2 center for the future of this team. I think he's done a good job, especially with the shuffling of players on his line and many times the poor play of Vinny on his wing.
- Just5


I like Schenn, I think he's a good player who's only going to get better. Needs to find some consistency. Has too many dry spells, and he's in the midst of one now. But he's still young. Lecavalier is going to come on after the break.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 7 @ 9:08 PM ET
Too much, IMO...Petry's sort of like a middle class man's Coburn, or as I saw it put tonight on twitter, Coburn-lite. Solid guy, not worth Schenn.
- Jsaquella


Exactly -- but for me, I don't even view him as Coburn-lite. IMO, he feels like a 5/6 on a really good team, and Coburn's easily a Top 4 with a cheap contract, to boot
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 7 @ 9:09 PM ET
Hey if they can get Schultz for Laughton+, I'm there. It's a fair value. What I want to avoid is something like the Schenns for Hemsky & Petry.
- Jsaquella


Wow...you just made my eyes bleed
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 9:09 PM ET
Exactly -- but for me, I don't even view him as Coburn-lite. IMO, he feels like a 5/6 on a really good team, and Coburn's easily a Top 4 with a cheap contract, to boot
- AllInForFlyers


Yeah, maybe a more mobile Meszaros...Outside of Schultz he's the guy I like most on their roster.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:10 PM ET
Exactly -- but for me, I don't even view him as Coburn-lite. IMO, he feels like a 5/6 on a really good team, and Coburn's easily a Top 4 with a cheap contract, to boot
- AllInForFlyers


I agree. I like what Gustafson is bringing to the ice lately. I'd rather keep giving him playing time then giving up assets for a guy like Petry. Another defenseman who is primarily a defensive defenseman.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 7 @ 9:11 PM ET
And one even the Oilers would be crazy to make.
- ob18


What their #1 for B Schenn? I do that by the way. Kinda crazy but the oil would have to have some kind of plan to dump gagner i'd think
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 9:11 PM ET
Wow...you just made my eyes bleed
- AllInForFlyers


Just tossing out names. There's only a few names that really intrigue me that I think Edmonton would move and who the Flyers can fit cap wise.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:13 PM ET
What their #1 for B Schenn? I do that by the way. Kinda crazy but the oil would have to have some kind of plan to dump gagner i'd think
- Just5


I said it sarcastically.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Feb 7 @ 9:14 PM ET
Speaking of Coby, guys been with this team since 06/07, i think that's the longest current tenure of any player?

Can't tell if that's impressive or not with how much roster turnover there is with this team. Feels like he's been around forever and he's still only 28.

He's a survivor that's for sure
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 7 @ 9:15 PM ET
Just tossing out names. There's only a few names that really intrigue me that I think Edmonton would move and who the Flyers can fit cap wise.
- Jsaquella


Hemsky of two, three years ago...if he had gotten out of there then, he'd be a different guy.

But now...he just looks like a worn-down finesse player. Admire the skills he had, but I don't believe he can do that at a playoff-contending level anymore
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 7 @ 9:16 PM ET
Hemsky of two, three years ago...if he had gotten out of there then, he'd be a different guy.

But now...he just looks like a worn-down finesse player. Admire the skills he had, but I don't believe he can do that at a playoff-contending level anymore

- AllInForFlyers


And at a 5M Cap hit, no thanks. Unless maybe they'd take Meszaros, but why would they do that? One UFA for another.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 9:19 PM ET
Hemsky of two, three years ago...if he had gotten out of there then, he'd be a different guy.

But now...he just looks like a worn-down finesse player. Admire the skills he had, but I don't believe he can do that at a playoff-contending level anymore

- AllInForFlyers


There's not really a need for the Flyers & Hemsky, unless they're moving somebody else out
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 7 @ 9:24 PM ET
And at a 5M Cap hit, no thanks. Unless maybe they'd take Meszaros, but why would they do that? One UFA for another.
- MJL


Agree with you and JSaq -- see, that's what I meant. Earlier in the year, when both teams were struggling and the Flyers were trying to kill Couturier's career by playing him with guys who couldn't score, I could've seen Hemsky coming in and playing with Couturier -- he's not bad defensively, as far as hockey sense is concerned.

But to me, Edmonton missed the boat on that, because Michael Raffl stepped up his play and Steve Downie came in and helped stabilize Couturier for that stretch when he, Read and Couturier were killing it...and now there's no real need.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 7 @ 9:26 PM ET
Agree with you and JSaq -- see, that's what I meant. Earlier in the year, when both teams were struggling and the Flyers were trying to kill Couturier's career by playing him with guys who couldn't score, I could've seen Hemsky coming in and playing with Couturier -- he's not bad defensively, as far as hockey sense is concerned.

But to me, Edmonton missed the boat on that, because Michael Raffl stepped up his play and Steve Downie came in and helped stabilize Couturier for that stretch when he, Read and Couturier were killing it...and now there's no real need.

- AllInForFlyers


It's something to watch...there's been smoke between the Flyers & Oilers since the draft. It reminds me of all the JvR/Schenn rumors in the 2011-12 season
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 7 @ 9:28 PM ET
It's something to watch...there's been smoke between the Flyers & Oilers since the draft. It reminds me of all the JvR/Schenn rumors in the 2011-12 season
- Jsaquella


No, you're right -- I'm totally surprised that they're in Newark tonight. But they've been talking for so long, both sides want something from the other
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