Jason Lewis: LA Kings at the Sochi Olympics, Colin Fraser waived

Jason Lewis: LA Kings at the Sochi Olympics, Colin Fraser waived
- Jason_Lewis

- MikeOxbyg

Seems like great guy, I feel bad for him.........I won't miss him at all.

Seems like great guy, I feel bad for him.........I won't miss him at all.
- dprice818

I agree, probably a decent dude... but we need to win games and he provides absolutely nothing in the line up. he has two cups, many chances to earn a spot. I would say he has had a notable career of being in proximity of greatness but at the and of the day he is a roster spot and the kings aren't performing well enough to make up for his average-ness. Sooo. BYE

Watch Brown and Quick in action during the following times:

Feb 13th, Thursday 4:30am vs. Slovakia
Feb 15th, Saturday 4:30am vs. USA
Feb 16th, Sunday 4:30am vs. Slovenia

Is the 15th going to be a split squad game? I know Canada has enough to ice two teams but not sure about the US.

brown - kesler - kane is an interesting mix. I guess they're trying to spread out the scoring a bit. that tilt against russia should be a doozy.

Wonder how Flyers fans feel?

Because, you know.... Carter shouldn't even be on the team.

- MikeOxbyg

I love Tombstone.

As far as the OP goes, I really hope we aren't seriously looking at Gagner. He is not the difference between us making it to and/or winning the cup. Sit tight or go big.

brown - kesler - kane is an interesting mix. I guess they're trying to spread out the scoring a bit. that tilt against russia should be a doozy.
- hiway39

Same line from 2010. I bet all 3 hate each other too when they play in the NHL.

Same line from 2010. I bet all 3 hate each other too when they play in the NHL.
- Nucker101

I'm very surprised to see Brown on that line. I figured he would be playing in more of a 4th line role.

I'm very surprised to see Brown on that line. I figured he would be playing in more of a 4th line role.
- Anjin

I guess they don't wanna mess with a good thing, I remember that line being pretty effective. Brown doesn't have to control the puck much on that line, he can just be the hustle guy who forechecks and gets the puck to Kane and goes to the net. But yea, I wouldn't be surprised to see that line broken up if they don't do much early.

I love Tombstone.

As far as the OP goes, I really hope we aren't seriously looking at Gagner. He is not the difference between us making it to and/or winning the cup. Sit tight or go big.
- Ersberg

Yeah I am hoping they drive the price up on him so we have to look elsewhere...

I guess they don't wanna mess with a good thing, I remember that line being pretty effective. Brown doesn't have to control the puck much on that line, he can just be the hustle guy who forechecks and gets the puck to Kane and goes to the net. But yea, I wouldn't be surprised to see that line broken up if they don't do much early.
- Nucker101

And they should dub that line (no reflection on Kane), the "Greg Louganis" Line!

And they should dub that line (no reflection on Kane), the "Greg Louganis" Line!


- MikeOxbyg

In sweeps mike Gillis. He's going to absolutley STEAL Fraser, And take the Canucks to the cup.

Way to go mike

You useless piece of @#$^

I don't know what you guys are expecting out of your 4th-line center. It's essentially a guy that makes near the minimum that eats up minutes so your top-12 players don't get burnt out. Win faceoffs, be responsible defensively but stay in the offensive zone as much as possible, punish the other team's backcheckers, try to stay out of the penalty box. If he does all of this AND gets 20 points in a season, you're not going to be able to pay him near the minimum anymore. Would you rather spend that extra $500k on your 4th line guy or use it to attract some top-tier talent?

Fraser averaged just under 9 mins per game, was above 50% on faceoffs and played a hard, gritty game, while accumulating 2 fights and 9 minor penalties in 33 games. He did his job just fine. I don't know that we have another NHL ready center in the system that can fill this role like Fraser did. Our most obvious options are Lewis and Vey, neither of whom are especially physical players. I thought he did his job well and will be sad to see him go if he does indeed go.

I don't know what you guys are expecting out of your 4th-line center. It's essentially a guy that makes near the minimum that eats up minutes so your top-12 players don't get burnt out. Win faceoffs, be responsible defensively but stay in the offensive zone as much as possible, punish the other team's backcheckers, try to stay out of the penalty box. If he does all of this AND gets 20 points in a season, you're not going to be able to pay him near the minimum anymore. Would you rather spend that extra $500k on your 4th line guy or use it to attract some top-tier talent?

Fraser averaged just under 9 mins per game, was above 50% on faceoffs and played a hard, gritty game, while accumulating 2 fights and 9 minor penalties in 33 games. He did his job just fine. I don't know that we have another NHL ready center in the system that can fill this role like Fraser did. Our most obvious options are Lewis and Vey, neither of whom are especially physical players. I thought he did his job well and will be sad to see him go if he does indeed go.
- tkecanuck341

My guess is that since the 3rd line has proved equally ineffective, then they (likely Lewis) earns a demotion to the 4th and frees up a top 9 spot for Vey or trade. I wouldn't mind seeing Stoll move down, but that cap hit on the 4th will kill us.

Less a reflection on Fraser, and more on the 3rd line getting absolutely nothing done. Hence earning 4th line spots, no?

I don't know what you guys are expecting out of your 4th-line center. It's essentially a guy that makes near the minimum that eats up minutes so your top-12 players don't get burnt out. Win faceoffs, be responsible defensively but stay in the offensive zone as much as possible, punish the other team's backcheckers, try to stay out of the penalty box. If he does all of this AND gets 20 points in a season, you're not going to be able to pay him near the minimum anymore. Would you rather spend that extra $500k on your 4th line guy or use it to attract some top-tier talent?

Fraser averaged just under 9 mins per game, was above 50% on faceoffs and played a hard, gritty game, while accumulating 2 fights and 9 minor penalties in 33 games. He did his job just fine. I don't know that we have another NHL ready center in the system that can fill this role like Fraser did. Our most obvious options are Lewis and Vey, neither of whom are especially physical players. I thought he did his job well and will be sad to see him go if he does indeed go.
- tkecanuck341

If he did his job just fine then why is he a vapor trail now? IMO they let him hang around way longer than his efforts permitted. We have guys down below the could stand a chance in the NHL and we have guys in the current line up that can fill Frasers slot and not be such a liability on the ice.

I don't know what you guys are expecting out of your 4th-line center. It's essentially a guy that makes near the minimum that eats up minutes so your top-12 players don't get burnt out. Win faceoffs, be responsible defensively but stay in the offensive zone as much as possible, punish the other team's backcheckers, try to stay out of the penalty box. If he does all of this AND gets 20 points in a season, you're not going to be able to pay him near the minimum anymore. Would you rather spend that extra $500k on your 4th line guy or use it to attract some top-tier talent?

Fraser averaged just under 9 mins per game, was above 50% on faceoffs and played a hard, gritty game, while accumulating 2 fights and 9 minor penalties in 33 games. He did his job just fine. I don't know that we have another NHL ready center in the system that can fill this role like Fraser did. Our most obvious options are Lewis and Vey, neither of whom are especially physical players. I thought he did his job well and will be sad to see him go if he does indeed go.
- tkecanuck341

He's washed-up. We have better options at 4 line center. With a trade, we'll just simply move everyone down a spot on the ladder.

He's washed-up. We have better options at 4 line center. With a trade, we'll just simply move everyone down a spot on the ladder.
- Ersberg

Or retool it altogether ideally. If we're not going to score, at least inflict some punishment. I'm thinking Cracknell-Porter-Reaves from last year.

Or retool it altogether ideally. If we're not going to score, at least inflict some punishment. I'm thinking Cracknell-Porter-Reaves from last year.
- cryptical77

That's not a bad idea, really.

A couple of us, including myself, were saying last season to nab Jagr at the deadline for some more size and offensive punch for the playoffs. What do you think? He can score and setup plays.

Watch Brown and Quick in action during the following times:

Feb 13th, Thursday 4:30am vs. Slovakia
Feb 15th, Saturday 4:30am vs. USA
Feb 16th, Sunday 4:30am vs. Slovenia

Is the 15th going to be a split squad game? I know Canada has enough to ice two teams but not sure about the US.
- kingsfan626

Haha whoops! Thanks for the catch.

Updated

That's not a bad idea, really.

A couple of us, including myself, were saying last season to nab Jagr at the deadline for some more size and offensive punch for the playoffs. What do you think? He can score and setup plays.
- Ersberg

New Jersey is only 3 points out of 8th in the East. Why would they trade their leading scorer down the stretch when they have a very real shot of making the playoffs?

He's washed-up. We have better options at 4 line center. With a trade, we'll just simply move everyone down a spot on the ladder.
- Ersberg

The other options we have for 4th line center don't bring to the table what Fraser does. Vey is a smallish skill player (think Moller/Loktionov), while Lewis is a PK/defense-first player. Neither of them bring the energy, intensity, and hits that Fraser bring to the lineup. Clifford and Nolan are both the same type of player as Fraser. Lewis fits in better on a line with Stoll.

If you're arguing that we should retool the 4th line entirely to turn it into a defense-first, non-physical line, then that's a different debate entirely. However, the the Kings do not have a better option than Fraser to fill the gritty, hard-hitting role that fits in with Clifford and Nolan on our current look 4th line.

Things to remember about Fraser:

When we got him from Edmonton, he was damaged goods (even though Tambellini swore he was fine).

Fraser immediately showed that he was a quality person with how he handled the situation and talked to the fans at HockeyFest.

We all thought Fraser would end up being just a salary dump in the Ryan Smythe deal, but guess who scored the first goal for us in the 2012 SCF?

Fraser brought grit, the ability to hit people and get under the skin of our opponents.

Terrific presence in the locker room.

Hopefully some positive things come his way because he definitely was a positive influence for the Kings and helped us win the Cup.