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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:40 PM ET
no not at all. Rinaldo. thats easy. by a mile.

if you want actual NHL players though, id have to think for a moment. hartnell, is so annoying to say the least, but he is hard to legitimately hate. hartnell is the type of guy im sure you love if he is on your team. and if thats the case, i cant say id actually hate him. Rinaldo could go to the pens tomorrow and id still loathe him.

i think hartnell is in for a decline soon, but he works hard out there and by everything ive seen is a great dude off of the ice. Rinaldo insults the game by putting on skates. I used to feel the same way about downie, but since his second go round with you guys, hes been pretty fine with everything.

- stayinthefnnet


Rinaldo was so much better last year. He's become completely undisciplined this season again. He was alright since he returned for a few games before the break.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 10 @ 6:41 PM ET
always is definitely a tough thing to maintain in sports, but i think barring the unforeseen the pens and flyers should both be good for at least the next 5 or 6 years. the rivalry should be nice and healthy.

awful thing about letang. i dont know why, but i just have a feeling he will be able to bounce back from it.

and Crosby. not much else needs to be said haha

- stayinthefnnet

You smug little squirrel


j/k.....We definately will have some good games in the future. I wonder if you guys will try to add Daley. He would be a good addition to your team. If you guys bot Broduer, I think I would just despise you even more.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:42 PM ET
You smug little squirrel


j/k.....We definately will have some good games in the future. I wonder if you guys will try to add Daley. He would be a good addition to your team. If you guys bot Broduer, I think I would just despise you even more.

- Deasr1

honestly, i think the pens just need their current defenders to play to their ability. i dont want them to add to the logjam. they sure could use a depth forward though
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Feb 10 @ 6:42 PM ET
So in light of Michael Sam, how would everyone feel if their favorite hockey player came out as gay?
- PhillySportsGuy


No idea who Michael Sam is, but I wouldn't care even a little bit.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Feb 10 @ 6:42 PM ET
haha yeah but schenn is likely to turn out to be a pretty good player when all is said and done. that, and other assets, for 3 months of vanek. id die.

haha im sure you guys would love the pens to move despres and a first for moulson or something. or better yet, just relive the iginla/morrow trades

- stayinthefnnet

Didn't you guys also trade 2 2nd rounders for Douglas "slower than molasses" Murray??
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:42 PM ET
You smug little squirrel


j/k.....We definately will have some good games in the future. I wonder if you guys will try to add Daley. He would be a good addition to your team. If you guys bot Broduer, I think I would just despise you even more.

- Deasr1


I feel like the Pens need more size and depth. Daley is more of a puck mover.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:43 PM ET
No idea who Michael Sam is, but I wouldn't care even a little bit.
- wolfhounds


Lift your rock
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 10 @ 6:43 PM ET
Rinaldo was so much better last year. He's become completely undisciplined this season again. He was alright since he returned for a few games before the break.
- PhillySportsGuy

I think he really is part of the reason they are playing so well. When he goes out and demolishes people(with in the rules) our team lights up. He needs to be able to walk that fine line again. But I have notioced alittle more jump in everyone's step since he has been back.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:44 PM ET
Rinaldo was so much better last year. He's become completely undisciplined this season again. He was alright since he returned for a few games before the break.
- PhillySportsGuy

(frank) him. at least when downie was a scummer, and cooke was a scummer, they were at least effective contributors. the fact that theyve cleaned up is good for them. granted, he isnt as scummy as those two were in their heyday, but Rinaldo is just an idiot without talent.

but honestly, other than that, as ive said before, the flyers individually are a tough team to hate and actually have a lot of guys i respect a lot.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 10 @ 6:44 PM ET
honestly, i think the pens just need their current defenders to play to their ability. i dont want them to add to the logjam. they sure could use a depth forward though
- stayinthefnnet

VL for your first rounder ?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:45 PM ET
Didn't you guys also trade 2 2nd rounders for Douglas "slower than molasses" Murray??
- fecondo

that would be correct!

logically it made sense in way, but it didnt work out at all. and the price was egregious. but think about that if you guys ever think grossmann doesnt have any value haha
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:46 PM ET
I think he really is part of the reason they are playing so well. When he goes out and demolishes people(with in the rules) our team lights up. He needs to be able to walk that fine line again. But I have notioced alittle more jump in everyone's step since he has been back.
- Deasr1


I think he got carried away with trying to do too much. He wanted to be part of the penalty kill and shutdown lines. He needs to just focus on playing a good shift one at a time.

I know Berube likes him a lot. I think thats why Rinaldo was so excited. He thought this would be his big chance with Berube becoming the head coach.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:46 PM ET
VL for your first rounder ?
- Deasr1

oh no. you guys can have fun with that deal in two years time.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:47 PM ET
(frank) him. at least when downie was a scummer, and cooke was a scummer, they were at least effective contributors. the fact that theyve cleaned up is good for them. granted, he isnt as scummy as those two were in their heyday, but Rinaldo is just an idiot without talent.

but honestly, other than that, as ive said before, the flyers individually are a tough team to hate and actually have a lot of guys i respect a lot.

- stayinthefnnet


RInaldo is actually one of the teams best skaters. I think he and Voracek raced and Rinldo won.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:48 PM ET
oh no. you guys can have fun with that deal in two years time.
- stayinthefnnet


No No No. Take him. I hear he can play wing.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Feb 10 @ 6:48 PM ET
that would be correct!

logically it made sense in way, but it didnt work out at all. and the price was egregious. but think about that if you guys ever think grossmann doesnt have any value haha

- stayinthefnnet

The pens can have Grossmann for a 2nd and a 2015 3rd. Because you're alright, I decided to give you a discount.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Feb 10 @ 6:48 PM ET
oh no. you guys can have fun with that deal in two years time.
- stayinthefnnet

They'll just trade him back to TB for some picks and prospects.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:49 PM ET
RInaldo is actually one of the teams best skaters. I think he and Voracek raced and Rinldo won.
- PhillySportsGuy

Harry Z is a fast skater too.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:50 PM ET
No No No. Take him. I hear he can play wing.
- PhillySportsGuy

yuck. ill pass. how about the exclusive rights to be the first to line niskanens pockets with gold for one matt read?
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 10 @ 6:51 PM ET
oh no. you guys can have fun with that deal in two years time.
- stayinthefnnet

I think, and I reiterate, I THINK the Flyers are closer than many believe possible. The Kings were no where near a great team like Chicago or San Jose. However, they had a goalie that went insane. Mason reminds me of that kind of goalie. We need a few break along the way. But I honestly believe with the right addition at the TDL, we could make some noise. Besides, we would probably play you guys the first round, so that's a lock to move on
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 10 @ 6:51 PM ET
I know this is leight but I just saw Jeff Carter was playing wing with Crosby and Kunitz at least at practice.

I can only imagine the wailing and moaning if team Canada actually had taken Giroux and then had Sid centering G and Carter.

Missed a golden opportunity there.

Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 10 @ 6:52 PM ET
yuck. ill pass. how about the exclusive rights to be the first to line niskanens pockets with gold for one matt read?
- stayinthefnnet

watch that tone


fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Feb 10 @ 6:52 PM ET
yuck. ill pass. how about the exclusive rights to be the first to line niskanens pockets with gold for one matt read?
- stayinthefnnet

Nah. Holmgren's just waiting to be able to offer him a 6yr deal @ 5.5 per.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 6:52 PM ET
He can transition to OLB. I think he could fit on this roster if the Eagles don't end up taking multiple OLBs before him.
- PhillySportsGuy


I don't agree, but I respect this to be your opinion.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:53 PM ET
I think, and I reiterate, I THINK the Flyers are closer than many believe possible. The Kings were no where near a great team like Chicago or San Jose. However, they had a goalie that went insane. Mason reminds me of that kind of goalie. We need a few break along the way. But I honestly believe with the right addition at the TDL, we could make some noise. Besides, we would probably play you guys the first round, so that's a lock to move on
- Deasr1


I don't see them as being that close. They still have holes that can be exploited. It depends a lot on match ups. I don't see them being able to beat the Rangers or Bruins.
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