It could be a draft where the best players are littered throughout the first round. Not like last year where clearly the top talent was in the top 10
- PhillySportsGuy

i dunno, Anthony Mantha is making some teams regret their picks right now.

They usually do OK in those sort of draft classes.
- Jsaquella

And I'm fine with that & I do like players in this draft, probably much more than some scouts.

i dunno, Anthony Mantha is making some teams regret their picks right now.
- JAKEw1234

Yes but McKinnon, Barkov, Drouin, Jones and Monahan all look like future stars.

Yes but McKinnon, Barkov, Drouin, Jones and Monahan all look like future stars.
- PhillySportsGuy

In 2015 you could have

Connor McDavid
Jack Eichel
Dylan Strome
Noah Hanifin
Matthew Barzal
Alexandre Carrier
Ryan Pilon (although he left Lethbridge, the team is a mess)
Ryan Gropp
Travis Konecny
Mitch Marner

etc

Just me, but I have lost a lot of respect for Ed Snider, and the organization when he slammed the Olympics the way he did.

Its blind arrogance, to think that there aren't fans outside of NA that enjoy seeing the best players in the world compete. Its how I originally came to know about this team in the first place.

Not trying to offend anyone, but its that kind of short-sighted thinking that has hurt the image of NA's citizens globally.

Hockey is far more than just NA, or the NHL. Ed only cares because it hurts his chances at making the most money, and if I was a non-North American player playing for this team, I'd have lost a lot of respect for him also.

For me personally, Flyers getting tough to fly for lately. Unfortunate.

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Just me, but I have lost a lot of respect for Ed Snider, and the organization when he slammed the Olympics the way he did.

Its blind arrogance, to think that there aren't fans outside of NA that enjoy seeing the best players in the world compete. Its how I originally came to know about this team in the first place.

Not trying to offend anyone, but its that kind of short-sighted thinking that has hurt the image of NA's citizens globally.

Hockey is far more than just NA, or the NHL. Ed only cares because it hurts his chances at making the most money, and if I was a non-North American player playing for this team, I'd have lost a lot of respect for him also.

For me personally, Flyers getting tough to fly for lately. Unfortunate.
- flyer_nutter

The NHL is looking to form a tournament in lieu of the olympics. It would occur during the offseason. It will be moved from country to country.

The NHL is looking to form a tournament in lieu of the olympics. It would occur during the offseason. It will be moved from country to country.
- PhillySportsGuy

Know what though?

To me the Olympics, which have been running from the times of ancient Greece, and are meant as a celebration of sport, peace and culture are more important than the North American "NHL" run by a bunch of rich old dudes in fancy suits.

I think it just struck a cord with me on a personal level. I originally came to hear about the Flyers as a little kid in Eastern Europe while watching the Olympics.

To hear Ed spit on them like he did, tough to support an organization run by a leader with such ideals. Money first Ed.

Know what though?

To me the Olympics, which have been running from the times of ancient Greece, and are meant as a celebration of sport, peace and culture are more important than the North American "NHL" run by a bunch of rich old dudes in fancy suits.
- flyer_nutter

The Olympics haven't been running since the time of ancient Greece. They were held in ancient Greece and reborn just over 100 years ago.

They're also supposed to be about AMATEUR sports, not professionals. You want to celebrate the Olympic spirit, don't ignore that they are meant to be for non-professional athletes.

It is dumb that the NHL shuts down just as the playoff races start to hit the stretch run. It is dumb that right before the trade deadline there's a roster freeze for two weeks

I couldn't care less who wins the Olympic gold medal. I do care who wins the Stanley Cup, which has been around longer than the modern Olympics.

The Olympics haven't been running since the time of ancient Greece. They were held in ancient Greece and reborn just over 100 years ago.

They're also supposed to be about AMATEUR sports, not professionals. You want to celebrate the Olympic spirit, don't ignore that they are meant to be for non-professional athletes.

It is dumb that the NHL shuts down just as the playoff races start to hit the stretch run. It is dumb that right before the trade deadline there's a roster freeze for two weeks

I couldn't care less who wins the Olympic gold medal. I do care who wins the Stanley Cup, which has been around longer than the modern Olympics.
- Jsaquella

No offense Jsaq, but its that kind of short sighted thinking that has built the reputation of North Americans around the world. Hockey belongs to more than just the "NHL".

No offense Jsaq, but its that kind of short sighted thinking that has built the reputation of North Americans around the world. Hockey belongs to more than just the "NHL".
- flyer_nutter

The Olympics are nothing more than a cash grab for the IOC.

And "this kind of thinking" came from the Soviet nations using professional hockey players in the Olympics for decades, under the guise of calling them soldiers.

No offense taken. But you hold the Olympics up as some kind of lily pure, bastion of sportsmanship and good will...and they're not. They're run by corrupt people who care as much about a buck as Ed Snider does.

Romanticize the Olympics all you want, but they're not held for a celebration of peace and sportsmanship

maybe im wrong but i thought his main point was that they should be held during the summer so they didnt interrupt the season.

i didnt think he was slamming the Olympics in general.. just the timing.

They're also supposed to be about AMATEUR sports, not professionals. You want to celebrate the Olympic spirit, don't ignore that they are meant to be for non-professional athletes.
- Jsaquella

That's funny, tell that to the Russians.

The Olympics are nothing more than a cash grab for the IOC.
- Jsaquella

This "world Cup" idea would be nothing more than a cash grab for the NHL too.

The Olympics are nothing more than a cash grab for the IOC.

And "this kind of thinking" came from the Soviet nations using professional hockey players in the Olympics for decades, under the guise of calling them soldiers.

No offense taken. But you hold the Olympics up as some kind of lily pure, bastion of sportsmanship and good will...and they're not. They're run by corrupt people who care as much about a buck as Ed Snider does.

Romanticize the Olympics all you want, but they're not held for a celebration of peace and sportsmanship
- Jsaquella

Don't believe so much of what the North American media will throw at you. Less was talked about in the opening ceremony in regards to the culture being shown than being able to blast the Russians for the Olympic ring not opening.

The Olympics have been hurt by the same "buck driven" crap as the NHL. I would be in favour of helping them return to a pure form, instead of hurting it further but just me.

We agree to disagree and that's fine. My original point, and was kind of curious on was whether anyone else was kind of caught by Ed Snider's comments. They hit me on a bit of a personal level because if it wasn't for NHL athletes going to the Olympics, I wouldn't have heard about this team to begin with.

This team has shown me a lot of arrogance in recent years. Kind of losing me a bit as a fan, but was curious for the thoughts of others.

maybe im wrong but i thought his main point was that they should be held during the summer so they didnt interrupt the season.

i didnt think he was slamming the Olympics in general.. just the timing.
- Crimsoninja

Yes, his main point was that shutting down the season didn't help the NHL at all.

The NHL won't get a sudden influx of viewers from the Olympics, because a lot of olympic viewers only watch because it's the Olympics.

How are the ratings for skiing & curling when it's not an Olympic year?

Yet the NHL shuts itself down just as the playoff stretch run starts, right before the trade deadline, affecting teams that are surging and have good momentum and risking injury to key players, for a tournament that doesn't help them in any real way...and they're bumholes for not praising it.

Yes, his main point was that shutting down the season didn't help the NHL at all.

The NHL won't get a sudden influx of viewers from the Olympics, because a lot of olympic viewers only watch because it's the Olympics.

How are the ratings for skiing & curling when it's not an Olympic year?

Yet the NHL shuts itself down just as the playoff stretch run starts, right before the trade deadline, affecting teams that are surging and have good momentum and risking injury to key players, for a tournament that doesn't help them in any real way...and they're bumholes for not praising it.
- Jsaquella

The point being, for me. That Hockey is more than just the good ol' "NHL".

They have 4 years to plan for this event, that helps fans around the world watch the best players compete. No excuses.

Don't believe so much of what the North American media will throw at you. Less was talked about in the opening ceremony in regards to the culture being shown than being able to blast the Russians for the Olympic ring not opening.

The Olympics have been hurt by the same "buck driven" crap as the NHL. I would be in favour of helping them return to a pure form, instead of hurting it further but just me.

We agree to disagree and that's fine. My original point, and was kind of curious on was whether anyone else was kind of caught by Ed Snider's comments. They hit me on a bit of a personal level because if it wasn't for NHL athletes going to the Olympics, I wouldn't have heard about this team to begin with.

This team has shown me a lot of arrogance in recent years. Kind of losing me a bit as a fan, but was curious for the thoughts of others.
- flyer_nutter

I totally agree with Snider. I don't give a rat's ass about the Olympics and wouldn't watch them at all if the NHL wasn't shut down for the duration of the games.

And please, I couldn't care less about the media. Play that card somewhere else. The opening ceremony is often a homage to the host country's history...and if you want that, great. I don't care about it, whether it's Russia or the USA

The point being, for me. That Hockey is more than just the good ol' "NHL".

They have 4 years to plan for this event, that helps fans around the world watch the best players compete. No excuses.
- flyer_nutter

Sure there's excuses.

Sweden, Finland and Canada are all missing key players due to injury. Russia's captain and best player is playing through injury.

And while I agree that hockey is more than the "Good Ol NHL", the NHL is the league paying most of these players a king's ransom to practice their craft for a living.

If they had a World Cup every 4th September, fans around the world could watch the best players, with no excuses and without interrupting the NHL(and KHL, SEL & most other leagues) seasons.

This "world Cup" idea would be nothing more than a cash grab for the NHL too.
- KGBflyers10

Well, if the point is to have a "Best of The Best" tournament so fans can see it, what's the harm in the NHL & NHPA splitting the massive wad of cash, rather than it all going to the IOC?

If what you care about is seeing the best in the world square off, then the name of the tourney is immaterial.

I totally agree with Snider. I don't give a rat's ass about the Olympics and wouldn't watch them at all if the NHL wasn't shut down for the duration of the games.

And please, I couldn't care less about the media. Play that card somewhere else. The opening ceremony is often a homage to the host country's history...and if you want that, great. I don't care about it, whether it's Russia or the USA
- Jsaquella

You may not give a rat's ass about the Olympics, but there are many around the world that do.

That enjoy watching the best of the best play. I personally find it arrogant, short-sighted and often typical NA thinking to completely discount the views of those people that live outside of NA, and that's why I brought up Snider's comments as the main point. So be it.

Well, if the point is to have a "Best of The Best" tournament so fans can see it, what's the harm in the NHL & NHPA splitting the massive wad of cash, rather than it all going to the IOC?

If what you care about is seeing the best in the world square off, then the name of the tourney is immaterial.
- Jsaquella

To me its about honouring than Olympics as well, which to me have a lot more historical and cultural significance than Lord Stanley.

Interesting conversation to me at least, but maybe advanced stats are more fun for HB.

Hey Bill,
Do you see anyone that might be available on "D" besides Big Buff? I really get tired of hearing all the trade rumors about him. I don't think that he is the answer for our team, plus who would we have to give up to get a player like him. If we trade any forwards, then we would need to find another forward that can score. It has taken our current group a while to figure out how to score, and this would just add to our list of problems. It seems like we continue to bounce back, and forth between the ability to score, and the ability to play "D." Pick your poison. Pick your price.
In addition, do you think Emery will stay around next season? If not, who would replace him? Anton Khudobin maybe?
Thanks.

To me its about honouring than Olympics as well, which to me have a lot more historical and cultural significance than Lord Stanley.

Interesting conversation to me at least, but maybe advanced stats are more fun for HB.
- flyer_nutter

Then go back to amateurs playing and keep the NHL season going

You may not give a rat's ass about the Olympics, but there are many around the world that do.

That enjoy watching the best of the best play. I personally find it arrogant to completely discount the views of those people, and that's why I brought up Snider's comments as the main point. So be it.
- flyer_nutter

If you actually care about the best of the best playing, then a World Cup tourney should suffice. They could hold one every September, before the NHL season starts.

The thing you're missing is, it's not the Olympics that are his main issue. His main issue-like mine-is that shutting down the NHL season just as it enters the stretch run can really cause a lot of chaos.

Teams that are on hot streaks lose momentum. If a guy gets hurt in the Olympics and is done for the year, his NHL team is left scrambling to fill a hole.

Snider doesn;t like shutting down the season, be it for the Olympics or for whatever else. I fully agree with that. It's dumb.

And if all you really care about is a best on best tourney, then a World Cup should suffice, or a move to the summer Olympics, which is actually where ice hockey originally debuted in the Olympics, 90 years ago