If it is a defenseman going back then it can only be one of 3 choices:

Gorges, Emelin, or Beaulieu.

Anyone else and it is bad value for the Avs.

Only thing is I cannot see Montreal dropping one of Gorges or Emelin for another forward at this time. It weakens their defence too much. Beaulieu is possible but Colorado would greatly prefer a NHL ready replacement for Parenteau.

Briere and a pick I can see. A similar deal to the Cammy/Bourque deal, get a younger more long term piece for a veteran. Hopefully it would work out better than Bourque though.
- Steven_Dean

Bergevin is not trading any of those guys for Parenteau. I don't believe they are even interested in Parenteau. Bergevin will trade Markov. Possible destinations, SJ, LA, Wsh and Pitt.

Bergevin is not trading any of those guys for Parenteau. I don't believe they are even interested in Parenteau. Bergevin will trade Markov. Possible destinations, SJ, LA, Wsh and Pitt.
- Champ

obviously it wouldn't be straight up but if Montreal is talking about Parenteau for a defenseman (like the post says) then these 3 are the only targets as everyone else is a UFA or have no value.

anyway like I said I don't believe Montreal would make a deal like that anyway.

I would be happy to see Parenteau in Montreal but I certainly wouldn't give up anything of value for him. Not a prospect or a first or second rounder. If you can't get him on the cheap then walk away.

Bergevin is not trading any of those guys for Parenteau. I don't believe they are even interested in Parenteau. Bergevin will trade Markov. Possible destinations, SJ, LA, Wsh and Pitt.
- Champ

He's not trading Markov. He should but he won't. He will be resigned.

If it is a defenseman going back then it can only be one of 3 choices:

Gorges, Emelin, or Beaulieu.

Anyone else and it is bad value for the Avs.

Only thing is I cannot see Montreal dropping one of Gorges or Emelin for another forward at this time. It weakens their defence too much. Beaulieu is possible but Colorado would greatly prefer a NHL ready replacement for Parenteau.

Briere and a pick I can see. A similar deal to the Cammy/Bourque deal, get a younger more long term piece for a veteran. Hopefully it would work out better than Bourque though.
- Steven_Dean

I could see George's going for a forward and then resigning of Murray for a bottom pair role. He does everything Gorges does plus hits. If be surprised if Bourque isn't part of the deal.

Unless Tinordi is coming back, there's nothing in Montreal that Colorado needs.

They can keep that overrated twatwaffle Briere too.
- jaygeeforty

colorado's defence sucks. There's plenty of help Montreal can give them. But a 30 year old second line forward with a big contract have a mediocre year is not worth a solid dman

obviously it wouldn't be straight up but if Montreal is talking about Parenteau for a defenseman (like the post says) then these 3 are the only targets as everyone else is a UFA or have no value.

anyway like I said I don't believe Montreal would make a deal like that anyway.
- Steven_Dean

I dont think they are good trade partners. IF Montreal really wants PAP the dmen that you mentioned would be the targets by the Avs. But that creates a hole in the Habs blue line so it doesnt make sense for either.

Danny B and a pick isnt what the Avs need either, they need to look at adding NHL quality dmen, not fine tune their top 9. THey have enough forward depth

colorado's defence sucks. There's plenty of help Montreal can give them. But a 30 year old second line forward with a big contract have a mediocre year is not worth a solid dman
- DoubleDown

you think he has bad value? He still produces, easily a 50pt man with a 4m cap hit. Thats cheap for a top 6 forward (on the 3rd line with the Avs bc of our forward depth). Bourque makes 3.3m and is a 20pt man at best.

colorado's defence sucks. There's plenty of help Montreal can give them. But a 30 year old second line forward with a big contract have a mediocre year is not worth a solid dman
- DoubleDown

Parenteau has 28 points; 10 goals in 46 games. On points per game average that would make him the 2nd highest scoring forward on Montreal behind Pacioretty. When you consider that Parenteau's power play time has been as a point man on the PP that's pretty solid production playing in a more limited role than he has had since arriving in the NHL

You have a pretty short sighted opinion of a players value. He would be a better option than Gionta & anyone other than Paches.

I would be happy to see Parenteau in Montreal but I certainly wouldn't give up anything of value for him. Not a prospect or a first or second rounder. If you can't get him on the cheap then walk away.
- DoubleDown

Pittsburgh paid two2nd round picks for Murray at the deadline last season. Boston a 1st for Jagr. Nashiville paid a 1st for Gaustad the year prior. Good luck with that.

colorado's defence sucks. There's plenty of help Montreal can give them. But a 30 year old second line forward with a big contract have a mediocre year is not worth a solid dman
- DoubleDown

I don't know what your basing your assumptions on.

Mtl is allowing 2.36 goals a game Colorado 2.59.

Mtl is allowing 28.4 shots per game, Col 29.4.

Colorado is a very young team that's still developing. Mtl is a veteran team.

These #'s say that Col is accomplishing almost as much as Mtl defenseively but doing it with far less.

The far more important stat. Col sits 6th overall in the NHL with 79 pts, Mtl 9th with 70 & Col plays in a far more difficult division & conference.

I can see why Mtl wants Parenteau. They get a top 6 forward that can score 50 to 60 points & 15 to 20 goals signed for very reasonable money at 4 mil per for 2+ more seasons.

Factor in he's a French Canadian & that makes all those crazy francaphone's happy.

What I don't get is why Colorado would move him unless they get something that helps & ideally that would be a solid defensive Dman but frankly I'd prefer to just keep Parenteau & move a 2nd round pick for a servicable Dman that will be shopped at the deadline. Hainsey, Gilbert, etc.

Isnt Montreal the team that has been trying to add a Topline Center the last two decades?? Then again, you need a competant GM and scouting director.
- jillann

I guess you must follow the Habs a lot because! I mean, who's this Galchenyuk kid anyway?

Too bad the NHL has so many poorly run organizations to let someone of your top-calibre analytical capabilities slip by ALL their management positions. But keep the dream alive and keep sharing your pinpoint observations!

colorado's defence sucks. There's plenty of help Montreal can give them. But a 30 year old second line forward with a big contract have a mediocre year is not worth a solid dman
- DoubleDown

Colorado is +21 for goals for, to goals against, Montreal +6. Man games lost to injury on D. With the exception of Emilin Mtl's D has been healthy. Col has lost 50+ man games from their top 6.

Your assumpitions just aren't supported by facts.

I like Bergevin. Give him time. You can't just fix what ails a team over night. He's been in place for 2 drafts. Most of the work would have been done for the 2012 draft when he was hired in May of 2012 but he would have had the final call on Galchenyuk & at #3 that was the best pick. I would have taken Murray 1st, Galchenyuk 2nd & Yakupov 3rd.

He hired Rick Dudley who is 1 of the smartest managers & evaluators of talent in the NHL. If I were buying a team he's my GM. He locked him up so Buffalo couldn't poach him. As well as hiring Michel Therrien as coach & Scott Mellanby as Director of player personal. Very smart.

He got Subban signed to a 2 year bridge contract & yes he'll have to pay now but he would have paid anyway, he saved money now & set a precedent for kids coming off ELC's moving forward in MTL. That's smart management. Subban will now get a 7 year deal in the 7 to 7.5 range & rightfully so. He earned it.

Signed Price for 6 years at 6.5.
Signed Prust as a UFA for 4 years at 2.5.
Signed Emilin for 4 more years at 4.1.

He has managed the cap well & placed Mtl in a very good position moving forward.

What's not to like.

I didn't like the Diaz trade but Therrien didn't like Diaz's package. He wants his Dman to play physical & that's not Diaz's game & with Paros & Prust fightening injuries another enforcer was necessary.

I like Bergevin. Give him time. You can't just fix what ails a team over night. He's been in place for 2 drafts. Most of the work would have been done for the 2012 draft when he was hired in May of 2012 but he would have had the final call on Galchenyuk & at #3 that was the best pick. I would have taken Murray 1st, Galchenyuk 2nd & Yakupov 3rd.

He hired Rick Dudley who is 1 of the smartest managers & evaluators of talent in the NHL. If I were buying a team he's my GM. He locked him up so Buffalo couldn't poach him. As well as hiring Michel Therrien as coach & Scott Mellanby as Director of player personal. Very smart.

He got Subban signed to a 2 year bridge contract & yes he'll have to pay now but he would have paid anyway, he saved money now & set a precedent for kids coming off ELC's moving forward in MTL. That's smart management. Subban will now get a 7 year deal in the 7 to 7.5 range & rightfully so. He earned it.

Signed Price for 6 years at 6.5.
Signed Prust as a UFA for 4 years at 2.5.
Signed Emilin for 4 more years at 4.1.

He has managed the cap well & placed Mtl in a very good position moving forward.

What's not to like.

I didn't like the Diaz trade but Therrien didn't like Diaz's package. He wants his Dman to play physical & that's not Diaz's game & with Paros & Prust fightening injuries another enforcer was necessary.
- striker777

I would be damn impressed if Montreal negotiated Phaneuf money for Subban.

8 years, 8-9M.

Unless something bad happens in the next few months or the deal is structured in a way that let's Subban take less cash he won't make less than 8M per.

I dont think they are good trade partners. IF Montreal really wants PAP the dmen that you mentioned would be the targets by the Avs. But that creates a hole in the Habs blue line so it doesnt make sense for either.

Danny B and a pick isnt what the Avs need either, they need to look at adding NHL quality dmen, not fine tune their top 9. THey have enough forward depth
- DDM-Coga

That wouldn't be too bad. Adding Briere and a pick for Parenteau gives the Avalanche a solid replacement with veteran experience and they can flip the pick for a defensive rental at the deadline.

Decent return if you ask me. Parenteau for a d-man leaves a hole at forward, this doesn't. Although if you can get a player like Gorges though then your better off doing that.

I still think MTL looks more at Stastny than PA Parenteau.

That wouldn't be too bad. Adding Briere and a pick for Parenteau gives the Avalanche a solid replacement with veteran experience and they can flip the pick for a defensive rental at the deadline.

Decent return if you ask me. Parenteau for a d-man leaves a hole at forward, this doesn't. Although if you can get a player like Gorges though then your better off doing that.
- Steven_Dean

Right now PAP is a luxery we can move based on our depth. The 3rd line is producing with MacKinnon, Talbot, and Mitchell. O'Reilly, Duchene and McGinn have been solid and when Tanguay is healthy, him and Stastny Landeskog is a solid line.

Sort of makes PAP the odd man out, and since we have so many offensive minded forwards to move him for a dman and try and add a 3rd line guy is a lot easier of moving PAP for a 3rd line guy and trying to add a 2nd pairing dman.

Its just better asset management to move him for a dman.

Right now PAP is a luxery we can move based on our depth. The 3rd line is producing with MacKinnon, Talbot, and Mitchell. O'Reilly, Duchene and McGinn have been solid and when Tanguay is healthy, him and Stastny Landeskog is a solid line.

Sort of makes PAP the odd man out, and since we have so many offensive minded forwards to move him for a dman and try and add a 3rd line guy is a lot easier of moving PAP for a 3rd line guy and trying to add a 2nd pairing dman.

Its just better asset management to move him for a dman.
- DDM-Coga

Tanguay is a complete wild card for the remainder of this season. He had 3 months off essentially & is still having problems. He's missed 42 games & counting.

Do you really want Briere for 1 more season at $4 mil?

Just but a rental Dman at the deadline for a 2nd.

Line up I'd like if Tanguay plays.

O'Reilly, Duchene, Parenteau.
Landescog, Stsatny, Tanguay.
McGinn, McKinnon, Talbot.
Mcleod, Mitchell, Bordeleau.

If Tanguay's hurt, move McKinnon to RW Cliche slides into the 4th line C spot & Mitchell moves to the 3rd line C spot.

Please no Briere.

it's Eller....
- HardPuck

avs do not need anymore centerman

avs do not need anymore centerman
- avoholic19

I assumed he meant to help the farm team