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Feb 15 @ 6:22 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Flyers Olympic Update -- Day 4
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 15 @ 6:44 PM ET
Where is everybody?

I like seeing Metz getting lots of quality ice time with Slovakia (or is that Slovenia - I get so confused). Get him rounded back into shape and hopefully he'll regain some of his confidence for the final run after the Olympics.
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Feb 15 @ 7:01 PM ET
USA USA USA USA!! Awesome game had no idea you could use the same guy over and over again in the shootout (Olympics),
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 7:02 PM ET
Where is everybody?

I like seeing Metz getting lots of quality ice time with Slovakia (or is that Slovenia - I get so confused). Get him rounded back into shape and hopefully he'll regain some of his confidence for the final run after the Olympics.

- 77rams


Outside of his game vs the USA haven't watched him, watched a bit of Sweden though.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 7:02 PM ET
USA USA USA USA!! Awesome game had no idea you could use the same guy over and over again in the shootout (Olympics),
- flyerfan28


Those are IIHF rules
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 15 @ 8:17 PM ET
Those are IIHF rules
- ob18


Didn't Forsberg also take 3 shots in 94, with the 4th being the "stamp" moment? I think he went as one of the first 3, and then both 6 and 7.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 8:58 PM ET
Oshawa highlights (or more like Laughton highlights) from last night

http://www.ontariohockeyl...58a6664dbcadcaf76f368bfb2
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 15 @ 9:06 PM ET
Oshawa highlights (or more like Laughton highlights) from last night

http://www.ontariohockeyl...58a6664dbcadcaf76f368bfb2

- ob18


Whoa...that toe drag then pass was sweet. Has his game grown to where he can be looked at as a #2 center in the NHL?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 15 @ 9:08 PM ET
Oshawa highlights (or more like Laughton highlights) from last night

http://www.ontariohockeyl...58a6664dbcadcaf76f368bfb2

- ob18


That shg and that assist were beauties. So naturally, I expect him to be traded for our true need, a 2nd/3rd pairing stay at home defenseman, by the tdl.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 15 @ 9:09 PM ET
Whoa...that toe drag then pass was sweet. Has his game grown to where he can be looked at as a #2 center in the NHL?
- Just5


On an offensively starved team he might be. But he won't supplant any of the flyers centers to start next year all things equal.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 9:12 PM ET
Whoa...that toe drag then pass was sweet. Has his game grown to where he can be looked at as a #2 center in the NHL?
- Just5


He probably won't be asked to do that here or at least to start. Think he is now mainly being used in a shut down role.

He hasn't played with who he used to for a few games now.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 9:15 PM ET
Whoa...that toe drag then pass was sweet. Has his game grown to where he can be looked at as a #2 center in the NHL?
- Just5


2nd line center down the road isn't out of the question, but who knows when he gets here how they plan to use him.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Feb 15 @ 10:18 PM ET
2nd line center down the road isn't out of the question, but who knows when he gets here how they plan to use him.
- ob18


I just don't see how that fits with the Flyers plans. Giroux and Schenn are their targets for top 2 centers ATM.

This is the problem when you have a team that drafts too many players within a single position. It causes gaps in developments for other positions.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:25 PM ET
I just don't see how that fits with the Flyers plans. Giroux and Schenn are their targets for top 2 centers ATM.

This is the problem when you have a team that drafts too many players within a single position. It causes gaps in developments for other positions.

- Flyersgod


There is no such thing as having too many good players at one position. Things change in a hurry in Hockey. And when you have a surplus of good players at a position, you can make deals to shore up another position. It's extremely important to be good up the middle of the ice.
wilsonecho91
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Feb 16 @ 2:40 AM ET
There is no such thing as having too many good players at one position. Things change in a hurry in Hockey. And when you have a surplus of good players at a position, you can make deals to shore up another position. It's extremely important to be good up the middle of the ice.
- MJL


That comment is made without consideration for the cap
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 16 @ 5:11 AM ET
That comment is made without consideration for the cap
- wilsonecho91


How so exactly? He didn't say you had to have a team of all stars. The 2010 flyers were extremely deep down the middle and had used assets the previous off season to short up the d with pronger.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 16 @ 7:32 AM ET
Oh well, at least I get see some of the 1st before I head off to work
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 7:45 AM ET
I just don't see how that fits with the Flyers plans. Giroux and Schenn are their targets for top 2 centers ATM.

This is the problem when you have a team that drafts too many players within a single position. It causes gaps in developments for other positions.

- Flyersgod



Yeah, with Lindros, Brind'Amour, Primeau, Hawerchuk, Roenick, Gratton, and Otto on the roster at any given time, I'm sure glad they didn't waste draft picks on more centers like Richards, Carter, Zubrus, Gagne, and Sharp.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 16 @ 8:09 AM ET
That comment is made without consideration for the cap
- wilsonecho91


The part about being able to make deals with a surplus at one position, to sure up another position, takes the Cap into consideration.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 16 @ 8:43 AM ET
Bake Wheeler holy crap
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 16 @ 9:02 AM ET
Oshawa highlights (or more like Laughton highlights) from last night

http://www.ontariohockeyl...58a6664dbcadcaf76f368bfb2

- ob18


wow - what a game. i liked what I saw from Laughts during his 6 game NHL stint. i truly think his progress makes schenn or coots available for the right dman.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 16 @ 9:13 AM ET
Always draft BPA. You don't want to miss out on a future all star because you have too many at one position
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Feb 16 @ 9:38 AM ET
Yeah, with Lindros, Brind'Amour, Primeau, Hawerchuk, Roenick, Gratton, and Otto on the roster at any given time, I'm sure glad they didn't waste draft picks on more centers like Richards, Carter, Zubrus, Gagne, and Sharp.


- Tomahawk



Yeah and I'm sure the salary cap hasn't changed the way teams should draft, right?

Get a clue.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 16 @ 9:43 AM ET
Yeah and I'm sure the salary cap hasn't changed the way teams should draft, right?

Get a clue.

- Flyersgod


No, it hasn't. As an example, the Flyers take the best player available. And the Cap is not a consideration in that. Drafted players that make the NHL will be on a 3 year entry level deal.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Feb 16 @ 9:44 AM ET
Always draft BPA. You don't want to miss out on a future all star because you have too many at one position
- PhillySportsGuy


BPA only works if you're willing to trade the player to get what you need, or trade players in that position on the team to make room for the future star without leaving any holes.

If we take centers for the next 10 years because they're the BPA, how does that fix our defense?

Laughton is trade bait if we keep Giroux, Schenn, and Coots.

And in regards to what position Schenn was drafted in 2008, his position in the draft really only matters with regards to pay. He was ranked ahead of Myers and Pietrangelo. So... yeah...
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