No, it hasn't. As an example, the Flyers take the best player available. And the Cap is not a consideration in that. Drafted players that make the NHL will be on a 3 year entry level deal.
- MJL

Tell me, what good does drafting centers if you don't need them? Our defense will be in shambles but we're drafting centers (before last year).

The only way it makes sense is if the scouting department doesn't trust themselves when it comes to drafting defensemen.

No, it hasn't. As an example, the Flyers take the best player available. And the Cap is not a consideration in that. Drafted players that make the NHL will be on a 3 year entry level deal.
- MJL

You really think the cap doesn't impact how teams draft?

Wow, Russia survives a big scare against Slovakia. Mezzy saved the game for the Slovacs with an amazing block on an empty net.

Russia wins in a shootout 1-0.

Boy I would have loved to see them not advance.

You really think the cap doesn't impact how teams draft?


- Flyersgod

Why would it?

BPA only works if you're willing to trade the player to get what you need, or trade players in that position on the team to make room for the future star without leaving any holes.

If we take centers for the next 10 years because they're the BPA, how does that fix our defense?

Laughton is trade bait if we keep Giroux, Schenn, and Coots.

And in regards to what position Schenn was drafted in 2008, his position in the draft really only matters with regards to pay. He was ranked ahead of Myers and Pietrangelo. So... yeah...
- Flyersgod

Anyone of those players could be trade bait. I have yet to see a draft where the Flyers take the same position with every pick. BPA is the way to go in my opinion.

Tell me, what good does drafting centers if you don't need them? Our defense will be in shambles but we're drafting centers (before last year).

The only way it makes sense is if the scouting department doesn't trust themselves when it comes to drafting defensemen.
- Flyersgod

There is no such thing as not needing them. Why take a lesser player just based on position? Even if you draft defenseman, there is no guarantee that the player will pan out. You should pass up a Center who is a much higher ranked player, to take a player in a position of need? Now if the players are fairly equal in terms of scouting, then I would take into consideration need.

You really think the cap doesn't impact how teams draft?


- Flyersgod

I can't see even a hypothetical where a team would make a draft selection with the Cap as a factor. And I don't know of any team that has done so. There's basically two schools of thought when drafting. Draft by position of need. Or draft by BPA.
All drafted player will enter the NHL in the Entry Level system, and all are subject to the same salary restrictions put in place in that system.

Why would it?
- MBFlyerfan

It shouldn't and while this draft does not have a clear cut #1, still some pretty good depth to be had with whatever spot the Flyers will end up selecting.

Tell me, what good does drafting centers if you don't need them? Our defense will be in shambles but we're drafting centers (before last year).

The only way it makes sense is if the scouting department doesn't trust themselves when it comes to drafting defensemen.
- Flyersgod

I didn't really wanna get drawn into this, but...

Let's say the Flyers end next season with a center group of Giroux, Schenn, Couturier, and Laughton, and Lecavalier is either gone or playing wing (i.e. not huge changes to the forward groupings). However, they miss the playoffs, but win the McDavid sweeps. Now, Connor McDavid is supposedly as good as Crosby. Would you select a defenseman with that #1 pick simply because you already have a lot of centers? I'm not talking about trading players or picks, simply, would you draft him and keep an overload of centers, or would you pass on an elite player simply because you need defensemen? Again, I am not talking about trading existing players to accomodate them, simply about draft selection.

Actually, a better team would be Pittsburgh who has 2 elite, world-class centers. If they (somehow) won the McDavid sweeps, would it be wise of them to draft a defenseman/goalie first overall?

It shouldn't and while this draft does not have a clear cut #1, still some pretty good depth to be had with whatever spot the Flyers will end up selecting.
- ob18

It seems (from what I've read) that there's a top-heavy 1-4, and then a fairly steep drop and leveling off, similar to last year. But I've heard (again, just what I've heard) that it's not as deep as last year's.

It seems (from what I've read) that there's a top-heavy 1-4, and then a fairly steep drop and leveling off, similar to last year. But I've heard (again, just what I've heard) that it's not as deep as last year's.
- jmatchett383

I'd think there is a decent top 6 to 8 but it's mainly a 3 horse race for who could be #1 but nobody is pulling away.

But solid depth behind it, some probably players who will slide but could end up being really good players.

I'd think there is a decent top 6 to 8 but it's mainly a 3 horse race for who could be #1 but nobody is pulling away.

But solid depth behind it, some probably players who will slide but could end up being really good players.
- ob18

FWIW, I don't know the depth players that well, but I don't think Ekblad, Bennett, or Reinhart would have cracked the top-3 last year. It seems like MacKinnon and Drouin were more highly touted than Bennett and Reinhart, and Jones over Ekblad. Also, after seeing Reinhart and Ekblad personally (haven't seen Bennett), it seems like Ekblad could make the jump straight to the NHL, but Reinhart has not impressed me at all.

FWIW, I don't know the depth players that well, but I don't think Ekblad, Bennett, or Reinhart would have cracked the top-3 last year. It seems like MacKinnon and Drouin were more highly touted than Bennett and Reinhart, and Jones over Ekblad. Also, after seeing Reinhart and Ekblad personally (haven't seen Bennett), it seems like Ekblad could make the jump straight to the NHL, but Reinhart has not impressed me at all.
- jmatchett383

I think Ekblad would have pushed Jones for best D in last years draft had he been eligible.

The forwards would have pushed maybe but not enough.

Anyone of those players could be trade bait. I have yet to see a draft where the Flyers take the same position with every pick. BPA is the way to go in my opinion.
- MJL

Agreed

You really think the cap doesn't impact how teams draft?


- Flyersgod

Not at all. A draft pick will be on an ELC for 3 years (more if he doesn't play in the NHL right away) which should be more than enough time for a team to evaluate itself based on his play as well as the team's and make a decision after that time about his future with the team. If the Flyers can draft 3 Sidney Crosby's in a row that all play center and are all making under $1M, I'll gladly take them over 3 Seth Jones' all day.

Oh man seeing Russia not advance would have just been glorious

Oh man seeing Russia not advance would have just been glorious
- Giroux_Is_God

No teams have been eliminated. Finishing out of the top 4 means you have to play an extra game. Preliminary rounds were for seeding purposes.

Is Holmgren moonlighting for the Phillies? 16 million for AJ Burnett?

Guy got yanked from the Pirates rotation during the playoffs last year.

poop.show

No teams have been eliminated. Finishing out of the top 4 means you have to play an extra game. Preliminary rounds were for seeding purposes.
- PLindbergh31

I was kinda wondering this. Pool winners and best 2nd get a bye. Do they just do straight 1-8 seeding for the next round, and then reseed for the quarters?

Edit: Nevermind
http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._tournament#Playoff_round

I was kinda wondering this. Pool winners and best 2nd get a bye. Do they just do straight 1-8 seeding for the next round, and then reseed for the quarters?
- jmatchett383

Quarterfinals work this way: 5-12 winner plays 4. 6-11 plays 3. 7-10 plays 2. 8-9 plays 1.

Seeds are as follows right now. 1-5 depends on outcome of Canada/Finland.

6 Switzerland
7 Czech Republic
8 Slovenia
9 Austria
10 Slovakia
11 Latvia
12 Norway

Already players out of the tournament due to injury:
Zetterberg/Sweden
Barkov/Finland
Kopitar/Slovenia

Is Holmgren moonlighting for the Phillies? 16 million for AJ Burnett?

Guy got yanked from the Pirates rotation during the playoffs last year.

poop.show
- PLindbergh31

Adds to the starting rotation depth. For one year, not a bad move.

Anyone know anything about Norfolk? We're on day three and have about a half day to kill.

Is Holmgren moonlighting for the Phillies? 16 million for AJ Burnett?

Guy got yanked from the Pirates rotation during the playoffs last year.

poop.show
- PLindbergh31

Cole complains about some shoulder soreness and Rube goes into a panic.

Plus he fits their profile - over 35 and way past his prime. Hey, at least he wasn't given a four year deal.

Cole complains about some shoulder soreness and Rube goes into a panic.

Plus he fits their profile - over 35 and way past his prime. Hey, at least he wasn't given a four year deal.
- 77rams

Just a complete waste of time and money. Team is in a rebuild, sign an aging pitcher well past his prime. Guy is also a headcase.

Maataa is the leading scorer for Team Finland.