Yeah the Bruins gave up on Thorton and Samsonov, if I recall correctly they drafted them in the same year both 1st rounders. So you'll know when we reach maximum suckage, when we give up on Bo and Hunter and trade them, rebuild 2017/18.
- A_SteamingLombardi

That better not happen! Bruins also drafted Kessel 5th overall (from sucking), acquired Seguin/Eriksson, Reilly, Joe Morrow and Hamilton because of him.

Tanev is a kid you build with, Bieksa is the one that should be moved with a guy like Corrado coming up, but I doubt he will due to his NTC. Hansen will get you something for sure, but nothing of substance in the way of a high pick or good young prospect IMO.
- LeftCoaster

You could say the same about Schneider.

I'm a huge Tanev fan, but he's replaceable, not just by trade or FA, but by assets currently in the system.

Obviously if you can get the necessary assets by trading others instead, you do it, but if you can get a similarly aged top-6 forward for him, you do it in a damn heartbeat.

You trade from areas of strength to address areas of weakness.

And if Gaustad can get a 1st, Hansen can.

At the very least he'd get a solid prospect from a team with depth on the farm.

Those are valuable pieces for a retooling team.

I'd constitute a retool as trading vets for younger assets that can help immediately. Trading players for draft picks or prospects several years out is a rebuild.

Given that Gillis has only made the one move (Schneider) it's tough to know what he has in mind but I'd imagine a retool is far more likely. Trading vets for picks, unless they are very high 1st rounders, is a waste of time IMO.

You could say the same about Schneider.

I'm a huge Tanev fan, but he's replaceable, not just by trade or FA, but by assets currently in the system.

Obviously if you can get the necessary assets by trading others instead, you do it, but if you can get a similarly aged top-6 forward for him, you do it in a damn heartbeat.

You trade from areas of strength to address areas of weakness.

And if Gaustad can get a 1st, Hansen can.

At the very least he'd get a solid prospect from a team with depth on the farm.

Those are valuable pieces for a retooling team.
- Fosco

Disagree, we already have a great goaltender on a long term contract, the smart thing to do in that situation is trade Schneider because Lu's contract was untradeable. Everyone but Gillis could see that.

He (Tanev) can be replaced though I agree. As for Hansen, just because there's an idiot to give up a first for Gaustad doesn't mean there'll always be an idiot at your disposal. Never say never, but I can't see anyone giving up a first for Hansen.

If only Gillis could have gotten a top 10 pick by trading Edler instead. And Lu got bought out.


Schneider, Tanev, Corrado, Horvat, Shinkaruk, Gaunce, Jensen, Kasssian etc would have been a good start to a re-tool.

I'd still love to see Gillis somehow acquire another 1st for 2015 between now and before that draft takes place.

This past 2013 draft and the upcoming 2015 drafts are supposedly deep so having multiple 1sts in both could turn out very well.

Kassian for Weise

Kassian for Weise
- TheNugeIsHuge

Diaz for Weise and a 4th.

Disagree, we already have a great goaltender on a long term contract, the smart thing to do in that situation is trade Schneider because Lu's contract was untradeable. Everyone but Gillis could see that.

He (Tanev) can be replaced though I agree. As for Hansen, just because there's an idiot to give up a first for Gaustad doesn't mean there'll always be an idiot at your disposal. Never say never, but I can't see anyone giving up a first for Hansen.
- LeftCoaster

Yeah. We also have great defenders signed long term.

I'm not saying Hansen will get a first, but he's a fantastic third liner who can fill in in the top-6, he's young, and signed to an awesome contract until 2018—that's a great deadline pickup for a contender.

Contenders will overpay.

Yeah. We also have great defenders signed long term.

I'm not saying Hansen will get a first, but he's a fantastic third liner who can fill in in the top-6, he's young, and signed to an awesome contract until 2018—that's a great deadline pickup for a contender.

Contenders will overpay.
- Fosco

I'd say "very good", don't have a true workhorse #1 type, but I prefer the strategy to have 3 solid pairings instead of relying one pairing to do all the heavy lifting.

I'd deal Higgins before Hansen. Mainly due to age and Higgins having a great year, his possession stats are also great and a lot of teams that use those would pay up for him.

He has a limited NTC just like Hansen, but I'm guessing he wouldn't be totally against playing for a contending team at this stage of his career.

I have a feeling that such a dramatic loss is a huge motivator for mens US hockey
- Gullzy

If they aren't motivated after getting beat in 2010 and back in 2002, nothing is going to motivate them. Canada and the USA came to win gold. I think whoever wins this game is the favourite to take it and whoever loses is going to get beat for the bronze. Those Scandinavians love winning the bronze.

Yeah. We also have great defenders signed long term.

I'm not saying Hansen will get a first, but he's a fantastic third liner who can fill in in the top-6, he's young, and signed to an awesome contract until 2018—that's a great deadline pickup for a contender.

Contenders will overpay.
- Fosco

My point is, as an example, he should have traded Edler instead of signing him. His value was high. Instead of having to entertain trading a player like Tanev, he could have gotten some great assets for Edler, that's good asset management and a form of retooling.

Nothing indicates Mike Gillis knows what retooling is or what is means.

March 6th is the TDL in the CWHL

Tanev is a kid you build with, Bieksa is the one that should be moved with a guy like Corrado coming up, but I doubt he will due to his NTC. Hansen will get you something for sure, but nothing of substance in the way of a high pick or good young prospect IMO.
- LeftCoaster

You still need vets around to help bring kids in and show them how to be professionals. Just ask the Oilers. Bieksa is that guy on our D.

That better not happen! Bruins also drafted Kessel 5th overall (from sucking), acquired Seguin/Eriksson, Reilly, Joe Morrow and Hamilton because of him.
- LeftCoaster

But those guys didn't help them win the Cup. Seguin only played 13 playoff games that year. They didn't need to suck to build that Cup winning team.

Disagree, we already have a great goaltender on a long term contract, the smart thing to do in that situation is trade Schneider because Lu's contract was untradeable. Everyone but Gillis could see that.

He (Tanev) can be replaced though I agree. As for Hansen, just because there's an idiot to give up a first for Gaustad doesn't mean there'll always be an idiot at your disposal. Never say never, but I can't see anyone giving up a first for Hansen.
- LeftCoaster

It's the NHL, there are plenty of idiots!!!

If only Gillis could have gotten a top 10 pick by trading Edler instead. And Lu got bought out.


Schneider, Tanev, Corrado, Horvat, Shinkaruk, Gaunce, Jensen, Kasssian etc would have been a good start to a re-tool.

I'd still love to see Gillis somehow acquire another 1st for 2015 between now and before that draft takes place.

This past 2013 draft and the upcoming 2015 drafts are supposedly deep so having multiple 1sts in both could turn out very well.
- Nucker101

Is that part of a 5 year retool plan?

My point is, as an example, he should have traded Edler instead of signing him. His value was high. Instead of having to entertain trading a player like Tanev, he could have gotten some great assets for Edler, that's good asset management and a form of retooling.

Nothing indicates Mike Gillis knows what retooling is or what is means.
- LeftCoaster

Edler would have been UFA. His value would have been minimal. His contract raises his value if they decide to move him to a team he agrees to waive for. That is good asset management.

It's the NHL, there are plenty of idiots!!!
- KB3Point0

Not this season apparently. It's been crickets on the trade front, the Weise-Diaz blockbuster aside.

Edler would have been UFA. His value would have been minimal. His contract raises his value if they decide to move him to a team he agrees to waive for. That is good asset management.
- KB3Point0

MG should have traded him before his NTC kicked in at the draft last year, that probably would have been the highest his value will ever be (unless he turns into lidstrom over the 3 days.)

Not this season apparently. It's been crickets on the trade front, the Weise-Diaz blockbuster aside.
- AlexF

That isn't due to lack of idiots. Garth Snow, Craig MacTavish, Glen Sather, Jim Rutherford, Chuck Fletcher, Paul Holmgren...

Is that part of a 5 year retool plan?
- AlexF

Hard to put a real set number on it, but just build up a team of good young assets and try to regain some cap/trade flexibility by shedding am expensive NTC or 2.

Not this season apparently. It's been crickets on the trade front, the Weise-Diaz blockbuster aside.
- AlexF

I think the TDL will be quiet outside of rental deals. The draft is where Gillis has to make his move IMO. Teams will have more cap space to take on bigger contracts with the cap rising and more compliance buyouts used. This UFA crop is weak so there will be buyers in the trade market, especially for dmen.

You still have another

#UpWeGo

Edit: oh......well this sucks
- pker2theend

I hope the trade offer you sent me was ment as a joke

I hope the trade offer you sent me was ment as a joke

- VANTEL

I thought only I sent bad offers.


PK'er is hilarious, he'll ask for a ton then accept something random from another guy.

I thought only I sent bad offers.


PK'er is hilarious, he'll ask for a ton then accept something random from another guy.
- Nucker101

I know