he said he wasn't blaming them then said they need to get the job done. You don't find that contradictory at all?

I understand what he's saying. He wanted JVR and Kane to take control and power the US moving forward into the next olympics. I just don't understand why the onus was on them to get the job done in these olympics. There are plenty of other guys who could have stepped up in these olympics. JVR shouldn't be relied upon as the team's primary point getter. He's a supporting cast member on this roster.
- PhillySportsGuy

No, I didn't find it contradictory, because I read where explained why he felt more disappointed in those two than guys like Brown and Callahan specifically and others generally.

Whether or not you feel JvR should be a primary offensive weapon, the fact is, he was tied for second on the team in scoring and used in a first line role. That's how the coaches decided to use him and up until today, he had played very well.

As for Kane, the other guy mentioned, he's obviously a centerpiece to the team right now. He's a high scoring NHLer, has won two Stanley Cups and is an near elite, if not elite player right now.

Its a pet peeve of mine to see people single out specific players after a loss. We've all played sports. Its not as simple as just getting the job done. You need the team to play at a high level around you. One player can't just take over a game against a defense like Team Canada.
- PhillySportsGuy

maybe if they played harder they would

Ok. Its over. Im wrong.

HU-RUMPH!

HU-RUMPH!
- Giroux_Is_God

We need a gif for losing. Maybe a dying bear

HU-RUMPH!
- Giroux_Is_God

"I didn't get a harumph from that guy..."

We need a gif for losing. Maybe a dying bear
- PhillySportsGuy

Dying bear sounds depressing haha I reeeeeeally enjoy the dancing bear

"I didn't get a harumph from that guy..."


- tangent_man

This guy gets it

YAWN
so what's everybody going to be arguing about today?

No, I didn't find it contradictory, because I read where explained why he felt more disappointed in those two than guys like Brown and Callahan specifically and others generally.

Whether or not you feel JvR should be a primary offensive weapon, the fact is, he was tied for second on the team in scoring and used in a first line role. That's how the coaches decided to use him and up until today, he had played very well.

As for Kane, the other guy mentioned, he's obviously a centerpiece to the team right now. He's a high scoring NHLer, has won two Stanley Cups and is an near elite, if not elite player right now.
- Jsaquella

The bottom line is that Hockey is a team game. And every player on Team USA is a top player that is eligible for the team. I also think it's narrow sighted to call out just two players and place most of the blame on them. I have no problem with including them in the criticism, that would be fair. This isn't a normal team. It's a team of top players. And everyone of them was being counted on to produce. It was a team loss. Not a JVR and Kane loss. Every player was responsible. Whether the player was an 03, 07, or whatever. Whatever happened to veteran players lead? Callahan and Brown aren't even 30 yet!

The bottom line is that Hockey is a team game. And every player on Team USA is a top player that is eligible for the team. I also think it's narrow sighted to call out just two players and place most of the blame on them. I have no problem with including them in the criticism, that would be fair. This isn't a normal team. It's a team of top players. And everyone of them was being counted on to produce. It was a team loss. Not a JVR and Kane loss. Every player was responsible. Whether the player was an 03, 07, or whatever. Whatever happened to veteran players lead?
- MJL

I think you guys pretty much beat this subject to death yesterday.

So what happens today? Does the US come out and play hard for the Bronze or do they come out and play listlessly after yesterdays tough loss?

I think you guys pretty much beat this subject to death yesterday.

So what happens today? Does the US come out and play hard for the Bronze or do they come out and play listlessly after yesterdays tough loss?
- BiggE

I think, or at least I would hope they come out hard.

I think, or at least I would hope they come out hard.
- MJL

I think they will too, better bronze than no medal at all!

I think you guys pretty much beat this subject to death yesterday.

So what happens today? Does the US come out and play hard for the Bronze or do they come out and play listlessly after yesterdays tough loss?
- BiggE

I honestly don't care. If the NHL was playing, I would have watched about 20 minutes worth of the Olympics.

Quite honestly, most of the games have been rather boring, far from the "the best vs the best" thrill ride that advocates of the NHL participating in the Olympics point to as a primary reason to have NHL involvement.

Prior to the elimination round, the US-Russia game was the most exciting and compelling to a neutral fan. Even in the elimination round, the US-Canada & Sweden-Finland games were the most compelling and neither was especially great.

I only watched the Olympics to fill the NHL void, and found it to be kind of anti-climatic.

The bottom line is that Hockey is a team game. And every player on Team USA is a top player that is eligible for the team. I also think it's narrow sighted to call out just two players and place most of the blame on them. I have no problem with including them in the criticism, that would be fair. This isn't a normal team. It's a team of top players. And everyone of them was being counted on to produce. It was a team loss. Not a JVR and Kane loss. Every player was responsible. Whether the player was an 03, 07, or whatever. Whatever happened to veteran players lead? Callahan and Brown aren't even 30 yet!
- MJL

Some might opine that it's narrow-sighted for one person to offer opinions about someone else's thought processes...when one person watched the game and the other did not.

I said what I did after watching Brown and Callahan play, some of the other aging players on the roster, for the roles they were given. I'm not offering "general theory." I'm offering an opinion about what I saw in actually watching them play the game Friday at noon.

It's easy to sit back and nitpick and offer general theories -- what's anybody going to say to "Callahan and Brown aren't even 30 yet!" It's a true statement.

But watching that game yesterday, watching them actually play, it was obvious Dustin Brown's 29 years of age wasn't close to Jamie Benn's 25 years of age. It was like dog years.

You can disagree with that. You're entitled. But it's a little more difficult to disagree with it...if you didn't actually SEE it.

Wouldn't you agree?

Some might opine that it's narrow-sighted for one person to offer opinions about someone else's thought processes...when one person watched the game and the other did not.

I said what I did after watching Brown and Callahan play, some of the other aging players on the roster, for the roles they were given. I'm not offering "general theory." I'm offering an opinion about what I saw in actually watching them play the game Friday at noon.

It's easy to sit back and nitpick and offer general theories -- what's anybody going to say to "Callahan and Brown aren't even 30 yet!" It's a true statement.

But watching that game yesterday, watching them actually play, it was obvious Dustin Brown's 29 years of age wasn't close to Jamie Benn's 25 years of age. It was like dog years.

You can disagree with that. You're entitled. But it's a little more difficult to disagree with it...if you didn't actually SEE it.

Wouldn't you agree?
- AllInForFlyers

Im sorry for calling you narrow. Its my fault. Its over. Deal?

Im sorry for calling you narrow. Its my fault. Its over. Deal?
- PhillySportsGuy

Sure. We all offer opinions, but it's less fun when in offering them, people attach other things to them in responding.

Sure. We all offer opinions, but it's less fun when in offering them, people attach other things to them in responding.
- AllInForFlyers

Its really not worth arguing over for multiple days. Its not important like Corsi

Its really not worth arguing over for multiple days. Its not important like Corsi
- PhillySportsGuy

HA! Agreed!

good morning

Some might opine that it's narrow-sighted for one person to offer opinions about someone else's thought processes...when one person watched the game and the other did not.

I said what I did after watching Brown and Callahan play, some of the other aging players on the roster, for the roles they were given. I'm not offering "general theory." I'm offering an opinion about what I saw in actually watching them play the game Friday at noon.

It's easy to sit back and nitpick and offer general theories -- what's anybody going to say to "Callahan and Brown aren't even 30 yet!" It's a true statement.

But watching that game yesterday, watching them actually play, it was obvious Dustin Brown's 29 years of age wasn't close to Jamie Benn's 25 years of age. It was like dog years.

You can disagree with that. You're entitled. But it's a little more difficult to disagree with it...if you didn't actually SEE it.

Wouldn't you agree?
- AllInForFlyers

I don't need to watch the game to know tht Hockey is a team game. And that every player is counted on to play well. I don't think players should be looked at in terms of age when assessing how they play for the most part. If Brown was 37, or in that range, then maybe. But he's 29. And I can make the argument that players like Brown and Callahan are the veteran leaders of that team, and should be held just as responsible for the loss.
I'll repeat, I don't have a problem with criticizing JVR and Kane if they didn't play well in the game. That's reasonable. What I have a problem with is giving some players a pass because they're "03's". Every player is responsible for the loss. That's all. Done.

Are the Olympics over yet?

Are the Olympics over yet?
- 77rams

http://www.timeanddate.co...0&msg=Flyers+Return&csz=1

Are the Olympics over yet?
- 77rams

Not soon enough

good morning
- BulliesPhan87

that's what you think.