PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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His just appear to be mounting in the wrong direction......most good teams are built through the draft.....when's the last time the flyers drafted someone outside the first round that is still around ? Or a home grown defenceman with high upside....I have liked some of the moves but his misses are mounting. - landros 2
Thats what he's trying to do right now! Defenseman and late round picks take a while to develop. Guys like Ghost, Leier, Vasiliev, Stolarz, Hagg all have NHL potential and were picked after the first round. |
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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wish the pens wouldve scooped him up instead. - stayinthefnnet
Finders keepers |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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wish the pens wouldve scooped him up instead. - stayinthefnnet
You just keep hoping, don't you |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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His just appear to be mounting in the wrong direction......most good teams are built through the draft.....when's the last time the flyers drafted someone outside the first round that is still around ? Or a home grown defenceman with high upside....I have liked some of the moves but his misses are mounting. - landros 2
Flyers have to draft better in later rounds and do a better job in developing defenseman. Let's look at the latter. The Flyers have added Morin, Haag, Ghostibhere, Lauridsen and Alt to the collection of defensive prospects. So how are they moving in the wrong direction there? Let's look at the forwards. They have Giroux, Schenn, Couturier, Simmonds, Voracek, Raffl And Laughton as young forwards. All around 25 or so, and younger. Not counting Read who is a little older. They have a young starting Goalie in Mason.
So how are things so bad? How is the GM so awful? |
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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You just keep hoping, don't you - BiggE
sometimes thats all one has in this world! |
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wilsonecho91
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Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK Joined: 11.13.2007
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I'd be happy landing the BPA who is one that can also fill a need. - ob18
of course. I'm allowing my own biases to be front and center. and hope they draft your way too. |
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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Finders keepers - PhillySportsGuy
unfortunately. |
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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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Blast that Mr Edison and his newfangled inventions! - BiggE
we do not need a culture change stop
that reporter is a buffoon stop
what the hell kind of question was that anyway stop
what to you mean I don't have to type stop stop |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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we do not need a culture change stop
that reporter is a buffoon stop
what the hell kind of question was that anyway stop
what to you mean I don't have to type stop stop - BulliesPhan87
I'm still waiting for Snider to respond to a reporters question with:
Bah! Humbug!
Are there no buyouts?
Are there no waivers?
Yup, still waiting |
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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I'm still waiting for Snider to respond to a reporters question with:
Bah! Humbug!
Are there no buyouts?
Are there no waivers?
Yup, still waiting - BiggE
and im still waiting for the press conference of matt read has been traded for robert bortuzzo and the pens second rounder in 2015 |
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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of course. I'm allowing my own biases to be front and center. and hope they draft your way too. - wilsonecho91
I'd also be happy with Jared McCann, Nikolaj Ehlers, David Pastrnak, or Adrian Kempe.
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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I'd also be happy with Jared McCann, Nikolaj Ehlers, David Pastrnak, or Adrian Kempe. - ob18
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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and im still waiting for the press conference of matt read has been traded for robert bortuzzo and the pens second rounder in 2015 - stayinthefnnet
Pens have traded all future 2nd rounders for Douglas Murray |
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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I'd also be happy with Jared McCann, Nikolaj Ehlers, David Pastrnak, or Adrian Kempe. - ob18
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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and im still waiting for the press conference of matt read has been traded for robert bortuzzo and the pens second rounder in 2015 - stayinthefnnet
gonna be a looonnnggg wait my friend |
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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- Jsaquella
You are obsessed |
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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Pens have traded all future 2nd rounders for Douglas Murray - PhillySportsGuy
fine then a third.... and you try to be generous these days. |
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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- Jsaquella
Want no parts of him. |
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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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I'm still waiting for Snider to respond to a reporters question with:
Bah! Humbug!
Are there no buyouts?
Are there no waivers?
Yup, still waiting - BiggE
poop, I'd settle for him donning a top hat and shaking his cane at a reporter |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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poop, I'd settle for him donning a top hat and shaking his cane at a reporter - BulliesPhan87
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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There is really an interesting phenomenon that happens with Hockey fans and forums like this. I learned a long time ago, that a player is best judged over a significant period of time. I think really the shortest period that a player should be judged on, when coming to any determination close to being final, is a full Season. At the least. Even the best of players are subject to circumstances that affect their level of play at times during a Season. For short periods, or even sometimes longer. We saw that even with a player as good as Giroux in the early part of the Season. Some were questioning whether extending him to the huge deal was a good move. Players such as Simmonds, Hartnell, Voracek, and others were deemed no good, and needed to be moved. Or were flash in the pan players. Lecavalier sustains a pretty serious injury, and now he's no good the deal is labeled with a "check" and that it was a bad deal. I let it play out. And see what happens before making a rush to judgement. Thank goodness out GM does also. And that he has had some patience with some of these players. Nothing wrong with saying that so and so is having a bad stretch and needs to find his game. Or that he's not playing well right now. But that's quite different from saying that a long term signing is a bad one after half or three quarters of a season.
To summarize. Judging players over a short period of time is a bad idea. And often paints a false picture. Judging a player over a significant period of time such as a Season, paints a much clearer picture. And you have a better chance of getting it right. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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You are obsessed - PhillySportsGuy
Nope, OB hates the kid. |
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