would you trade this years first pick
OR
Laughton

for Kulikov?

Would Florida do that?
- Marc D

I'd do this year's first

Thats a pretty good line he shut down
- PhillySportsGuy

Plays against them 2 times next week.

I'd do this year's first
- Jsaquella

He hasn't played well for Florida. You would give up a 1st for him?

He hasn't played well for Florida. You would give up a 1st for him?
- PhillySportsGuy

In this draft? yes. 2015? Probably not

No. He hasn't played well for Florida. He's someone I would be interested in trading for as a reclamation project, but he's not worth a significant asset.
- PhillySportsGuy

I kind of feel the same way but he is only 23. He plays top four minutes now. He likely will never be a franchise guy but he has a ton of talent and probably will get better.

If he had a right handed shot I think I would do it, as a lefty maybe not.

In this draft? yes. 2015? Probably not
- Jsaquella

I think theres a better chance the Flyers get a better player in this years draft than Kulikov.

Actually Bob was very solid for the most part in Philly....had a rough playoff but so did team as a whole......what makes him so good ? The vezina.......with the logic of a48 game schedule .....Mason is only 60 games in this year?
- landros 2

Bobrovsky had a great year last year. No doubt. Let's see if he keeps it up. I'm just wondering why Mason's 60 games this year is discounted, while Bobrovsky's 48 games last year isn't? Bobrovsky showed a lot of promise in Philly, along with a lot of talent. And it would've been great if had won the Vezina in Philly, but he didn't. Trading Bobrovsky and signing Bryzgalov didn't work out, that's for sure. But if Mason continues his strong play and solidifies the net position going forward, what does it matter now? I'm happy right now with the goaltending play.

He hasn't played well for Florida. You would give up a 1st for him?
- PhillySportsGuy

the other thing, reading that the Flyers are interested in Trevor Daily right now.

He may cost a first round pick, or more likely two 2nd rounders. I think I'd rather go with Kulikov.

I kind of feel the same way but he is only 23. He plays top four minutes now. He likely will never be a franchise guy but he has a ton of talent and probably will get better.

If he had a right handed shot I think I would do it, as a lefty maybe not.
- Marc D

I just don't like the idea of giving up a significant asset for such a risky player. I just feel Laughton and this years first rounder will be better than Kulikov. Im not a huge fan of his and it has nothing to do with the rumor of him wanting to go to the KHL.

I think theres a better chance the Flyers get a better player in this years draft than Kulikov.
- PhillySportsGuy

Possible. But Kulikov is young and one bad season doesn't make him worthless. He's in a bad situation and has been openly on the trade block for months. It's not an easy situation for him.

My bigger concern is his contract demands as a RFA. Supposedly he's willing to go to the KHL if he doesn't get paid.

Both Mike Richards and Jeff Carter played 6 Seasons as Flyers. So how did the Flyers judge them over a short period of time?

I believe that there was some frustration and somewhat of a lack of patience with JVR here.
- MJL

So that was the plan ....sign them both to decade long deals.....then trade them a year out.....that's delusional thinking....they new what they had when these long term extensions were signed....within a very very very short time that perception changed....JVR? Same bloody thing....you do not sign guys to long term deals with the idea of trading them a short time later.

I'm just waiting for the tears when they trade Laughton for Ron Hainsey
- Jsaquella

i wont shed any!

I just don't like the idea of giving up a significant asset for such a risky player. I just feel Laughton and this years first rounder will be better than Kulikov. Im not a huge fan of his and it has nothing to do with the rumor of him wanting to go to the KHL.
- PhillySportsGuy

I don't know that I'd throw in a 1st round pick along with Laughton for Kulikov. Maybe another player such as Gustafsson. But that's it.

It's going to be interesting to see how much Gustafsson plays down the stretch. If they don't play him a lot. His days here may be numbered.

the other thing, reading that the Flyers are interested in Trevor Daily right now.

He may cost a first round pick, or more likely two 2nd rounders. I think I'd rather go with Kulikov.
- Marc D

Depends on the asking price for Kulikov. I don't think the Panthers figure him into their long term plans. He would be someone I would ask about though.

Possible. But Kulikov is young and one bad season doesn't make him worthless. He's in a bad situation and has been openly on the trade block for months. It's not an easy situation for him.

My bigger concern is his contract demands as a RFA. Supposedly he's willing to go to the KHL if he doesn't get paid.
- Jsaquella

He strongly denied that report. Im just not a huge fan of his. The fact that he's been available for a while but no ones paid the asking price means the Panthers are overrating him or GMs simply don't like him.

So that was the plan ....sign them both to decade long deals.....then trade them a year out.....that's delusional thinking....they new what they had when these long term extensions were signed....within a very very very short time that perception changed....JVR? Same bloody thing....you do not sign guys to long term deals with the idea of trading them a short time later.
- landros 2

Yep no doubt the Flyers changed course radically. But they didn't trade Richards and Carter because they made some rash decision over that short period of time that they weren't good players anymore. That was the point. I need more then the GM is a dolt, or that Timonen wouldn't have gotten the same money elsewhere or just a "check" or that everybody knows how the JVR/Schenn deal has turned out, to continue this conversation.

Possible. But Kulikov is young and one bad season doesn't make him worthless. He's in a bad situation and has been openly on the trade block for months. It's not an easy situation for him.

My bigger concern is his contract demands as a RFA. Supposedly he's willing to go to the KHL if he doesn't get paid.
- Jsaquella

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...no-desire-to-play-in-khl/

Apparently doesn't want to go to the KHL

Bobrovsky had a great year last year. No doubt. Let's see if he keeps it up. I'm just wondering why Mason's 60 games this year is discounted, while Bobrovsky's 48 games last year isn't? Bobrovsky showed a lot of promise in Philly, along with a lot of talent. And it would've been great if had won the Vezina in Philly, but he didn't. Trading Bobrovsky and signing Bryzgalov didn't work out, that's for sure. But if Mason continues his strong play and solidifies the net position going forward, what does it matter now? I'm happy right now with the goaltending play.
- MJL

I am actually fine with Luke Schenn's play as 5-6th guy......doesn't mean that the price to get him wasn't a mistake....

I think theres a better chance the Flyers get a better player in this years draft than Kulikov.
- PhillySportsGuy

Flyers will most likely be drafting in the 13-18 range. In all probability you are drafting a player years away from contributing. A change of scenery might be what's needed for Kulikov. It's an interesting question. From what I have read it's a top heavy draft. It's not a lock where the Flyers will be drafting that the player ever becomes an NHL regular.

Plays against them 2 times next week.
- ob18

I wish I could afford to watch these games.

He strongly denied that report. Im just not a huge fan of his. The fact that he's been available for a while but no ones paid the asking price means the Panthers are overrating him or GMs simply don't like him.
- PhillySportsGuy

I like him, but he isn't my first choice. I'd prefer minor tweaks at the TDL, if any and then proceed to free agency and add a veteran like Boyle to provide a bridge to the Morins & Haggs.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/02/panthers-kulikov-has-no-desire-to-play-in-khl/

Apparently doesn't want to go to the KHL
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

In that case the lone concern is how much cash he wants.

I am actually fine with Luke Schenn's play as 5-6th guy......doesn't mean that the price to get him wasn't a mistake....
- landros 2

It hasn't been determined yet that the price was a mistake. If he turns out long term to be just a 5-6 defenseman, then it will be a bad deal. But that is not yet known.

I wish I could afford to watch these games.
- PhillySportsGuy

http://ohl.neulion.com/ohl/

Flyers will most likely be drafting in the 13-18 range. In all probability you are drafting a player years away from contributing. A change of scenery might be what's needed. It's an interesting question. From what I have read it's a top heavy draft. It's not a lock where the Flyers will be drafting that the player ever becomes an NHL regular.
- PLindbergh31

There are always good players all over the first round in any draft. I just don't think its worth it. He's one year younger than Luke Schenn and has regressed over the last few seasons.

Im not saying I want no part of him, but I won't give up a 1st or Laughton for him. He's simply not worth it.