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FlyersGrace
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Feb 25 @ 2:43 PM ET
I was actually shocked when Gus was scratched in favor of Mez. I had thought Gus was playing fine.
- MBFlyerfan

I wasn't. Mez has to play to be seriously looked at for trades. And he's had some really nice games. His olympic outing was pretty good as well. A few bone head penalties but he also saved games. I think Holmgren is going to get some offers for him. Question is how good they'll be...

My gut tells me Mez goes and we hang onto Gus. I'd expect to see him more in the line-up end of this season and depending on what happens in the off season will determine how much he plays next. Losing Kimo and Mez in the off season leaves the door wide open for him.
Of course I reserve the right to be wrong!
landros 2
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Feb 25 @ 2:45 PM ET
So was I. Gus has created scoring chances and has done a great job of jumping into the play. Its not like Mez is some defensive dynamo who brings the physical aspect Gus lacks.

To me, it seems like the organization is trying to keep both fresh or maybe they didn't want to put Mez at the 7th dmen, making it harder to move him.

I don't know. I'm still confused by some of the additions and subtractions to the overall lineup on a nightly basis.

I'd really like to get a better explanation on some of the reasons for why certain players are getting benched for others.

- PhillySportsGuy


I thought maybe the Dolt was show casing Mez... regardless Gus was playing as well as any of the others.
Marc D
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Feb 25 @ 2:47 PM ET
In a perfect world, this team would add 2 players to their top 4 for next season. Preferably, one with some mobility and skill.

My dream scenario would be a trade for Ehrhoff and a signing of Girardi.

- PhillySportsGuy

I'd be very happy if they could get even one of those guys.
Niskenen too.

Any of those three would be a successful offseason I think.

The cost for Ehrhoff would be very high though.
PhillySportsGuy
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Feb 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
I'd be very happy if they could get even one of those guys.
Niskenen too.

Any of those three would be a successful offseason I think.

The cost for Ehrhoff would be very high though.

- Marc D


I feel like Ehrhoff would cost less than others. He's signed for another 7 years at a reasonable number. He's already 31. I feel like he gets unnoticed in Buffalo because that team is so bad.

Sabers have a lot of young D coming around the corner. They would definitely be open to dealing him. I would trade a 2014 first rounder for him.
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Feb 25 @ 2:56 PM ET
I wasn't. Mez has to play to be seriously looked at for trades. And he's had some really nice games. His olympic outing was pretty good as well. A few bone head penalties but he also saved games. I think Holmgren is going to get some offers for him. Question is how good they'll be...

My gut tells me Mez goes and we hang onto Gus. I'd expect to see him more in the line-up end of this season and depending on what happens in the off season will determine how much he plays next. Losing Kimo and Mez in the off season leaves the door wide open for him.
Of course I reserve the right to be wrong!

- FlyersGrace



I'll preface this by saying that I like Gus, I think he should be in the lineup today and in the future.

But my gut, and years of being a Flyers fan, are telling me that Gus won't be around for long... maybe not even past this summer. I expect he'll get a better opportunity, and perhaps $, overseas, or ask to be traded... because the Flyers are going to be really active over the summer (and maybe TDL) and let's just say that they aren't usually too concerned with saving spots for guys already in the system, unless they're top prospects.
PhillySportsGuy
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Feb 25 @ 2:56 PM ET
I thought maybe the Dolt was show casing Mez... regardless Gus was playing as well as any of the others.
- landros 2


Is showcasing Mez in order to get a 4th or 5th round pick worth it?
PhillySportsGuy
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Feb 25 @ 2:58 PM ET
I'll preface this by saying that I like Gus, I think he should be in the lineup today and in the future.

But my gut, and years of being a Flyers fan, are telling me that Gus won't be around for long... maybe not even past this summer. I expect he'll get a better opportunity, and perhaps $, overseas, or ask to be traded... because the Flyers are going to be really active over the summer (and maybe TDL) and let's just say that they aren't usually too concerned with saving spots for guys already in the system, unless they're top prospects.

- Tomahawk


I tend to agree with you. The fact that they keep benching him gives me the inclination that they just don't like him that much.

I've always liked him ever since Kimmo spoke glowingly about him. Kimmo isn't one to sugarcoat things, so it made me excited about him.
FlyersGrace
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Feb 25 @ 3:00 PM ET
Is showcasing Mez in order to get a 4th or 5th round pick worth it?
- PhillySportsGuy

I'd hope we'd get more than that! What did we trade for the corpse of Kubina?
SchennBros
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Feb 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
I feel like Ehrhoff would cost less than others. He's signed for another 7 years at a reasonable number. He's already 31. I feel like he gets unnoticed in Buffalo because that team is so bad.

Sabers have a lot of young D coming around the corner. They would definitely be open to dealing him. I would trade a 2014 first rounder for him.

- PhillySportsGuy


I have a feeling the only time Homer will move the 2014 first is at the draft. Seriously how many fewer fans do you think would go to the draft if the Flyers dont have a first round pick...
PhillySportsGuy
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Feb 25 @ 3:07 PM ET
I have a feeling the only time Homer will move the 2014 first is at the draft. Seriously how many fewer fans do you think would go to the draft if the Flyers dont have a first round pick...
- SchennBros


I know. The day they announced the draft would be in Philly in 2014, we were all wondering if the Flyers would have a pick in the first round.
PhillySportsGuy
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Feb 25 @ 3:07 PM ET
I'd hope we'd get more than that! What did we trade for the corpse of Kubina?
- FlyersGrace


Im not so sure. I think the most you can expect is a 3rd, but more likely a 4th or 5th.
SchennBros
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Feb 25 @ 3:08 PM ET
I know. The day they announced the draft would be in Philly in 2014, we were all wondering if the Flyers would have a pick in the first round.
- PhillySportsGuy


Does anyone know how to get tickets.... I think I would like to go.
SchennBros
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Feb 25 @ 3:09 PM ET
Im not so sure. I think the most you can expect is a 3rd, but more likely a 4th or 5th.
- PhillySportsGuy


Then why trade him? They are still in a playoff race and if 1 d-man gets hurt, it will be nice ot have both Mez and Gus. And I think that is why both guys are getting time.
SchennBros
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Feb 25 @ 3:12 PM ET
"That brings us back to Hemsky. Edmonton has him practicing on the LW so he can get top 6 minutes, he's an expiring UFA, and he doesnt have that much value around the league despite leading the Czechs in scoring at the Olympics. If you start connecting the dots the Oilers are shopping Hemsky, are willing to retain salary, and would be comfortable taking picks for him.

Is that enough for Edmonton? They probably dont have a choice. "


Hemsky for Mez!
PhillySportsGuy
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Feb 25 @ 3:13 PM ET
Then why trade him? They are still in a playoff race and if 1 d-man gets hurt, it will be nice ot have both Mez and Gus. And I think that is why both guys are getting time.
- SchennBros


Thats what I would do. Unless a team offers a 2nd or 3rd for Mez, I don't see why you would move him.
FlyersGrace
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Feb 25 @ 3:15 PM ET
Thats what I would do. Unless a team offers a 2nd or 3rd for Mez, I don't see why you would move him.
- PhillySportsGuy

I think his showing in the olympics you get that offer. Not much longer until we find out...
PhillySportsGuy
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Feb 25 @ 3:17 PM ET
I think his showing in the olympics you get that offer. Not much longer until we find out...
- FlyersGrace


Ill bet you Thoresen's remaining nut the Flyers don't get more than a 4th for Mez
SchennBros
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Feb 25 @ 3:18 PM ET
I think his showing in the olympics you get that offer. Not much longer until we find out...
- FlyersGrace


very interesting avatar.
FlyersGrace
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Feb 25 @ 3:19 PM ET
Ill bet you Thoresen's remaining nut the Flyers don't get more than a 4th for Mez
- PhillySportsGuy

I didn't realize you had it to trade...
FlyersGrace
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Feb 25 @ 3:20 PM ET
very interesting avatar.
- SchennBros

Thanks. You can blame Tomahawk. Most of the thread was deleted the day I asked for suggestions, hahaha...
PhillySportsGuy
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Feb 25 @ 3:20 PM ET
I didn't realize you had it to trade...
- FlyersGrace


Won it at a charity golf event
PhillySportsGuy
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Feb 25 @ 3:22 PM ET
I don't think a new blog is coming today
SchennBros
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Feb 25 @ 3:27 PM ET
Thanks. You can blame Tomahawk. Most of the thread was deleted the day I asked for suggestions, hahaha...
- FlyersGrace


Was hoping it was a selfie.
MBFlyerfan
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Feb 25 @ 3:29 PM ET
I thought maybe the Dolt was show casing Mez... regardless Gus was playing as well as any of the others.
- landros 2


The Dolt? You mean the guy who was 49-29-5-3 as head coach of the Phantoms, and has a Flyers team that started 1-7-1 at 30-23-6?

The guy who deserves to be in the Jack Adams conversation? That guy?
landros 2
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Feb 25 @ 3:30 PM ET
Is showcasing Mez in order to get a 4th or 5th round pick worth it?
- PhillySportsGuy


with all the success the Flyers have in the draft in the later rounds.....of course!!!
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