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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 26 @ 11:04 AM ET
Strange, Vinny, St. Louis, Richards, Prospal, Gaborik all put up a ton of points playing under Torts.
- Tomahawk


Hes not a bad fundamental coach. I think he just wears his players down because he criticizes them in front of the media.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 26 @ 11:07 AM ET
Hes not a bad fundamental coach. I think he just wears his players down because he criticizes them in front of the media.
- PhillySportsGuy



A lot of what we think about Torts is tinged by his time in NY, where outside of Gaborik, he really didn't have much to work with offensively. Aside from Zuccarrello, there's not a single Rangers forward that's improved offensively this season with Torts gone -- some guys like Nash and Stepan have seen their numbers drop off a cliff.

He asks his stars to do all the 'little things'... he doesn't ask them to stop creating offense.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 26 @ 11:10 AM ET
Hes not a bad fundamental coach. I think he just wears his players down because he criticizes them in front of the media.
- PhillySportsGuy


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 26 @ 11:13 AM ET
A lot of what we think about Torts is tinged by his time in NY, where outside of Gaborik, he really didn't have much to work with offensively. Aside from Zuccarrello, there's not a single Rangers forward that's improved offensively this season with Torts gone -- some guys like Nash and Stepan have seen their numbers drop off a cliff.

He asks his stars to do all the 'little things'... he doesn't ask them to stop creating offense.

- Tomahawk


Hes not a bad coach, but don't be surprised if his shelf life lasts 3 years.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Feb 26 @ 11:14 AM ET
A lot of what we think about Torts is tinged by his time in NY, where outside of Gaborik, he really didn't have much to work with offensively. Aside from Zuccarrello, there's not a single Rangers forward that's improved offensively this season with Torts gone -- some guys like Nash and Stepan have seen their numbers drop off a cliff.

He asks his stars to do all the 'little things'... he doesn't ask them to stop creating offense.

- Tomahawk


I think he asks his defenseman to play a much different game, which could effect guys like Edler. A lot of his teams point come from turn-overs and not as much generating goals by offensive possesion and movement from the point. Which could hamper offensive guys like Edler. Cant really think of any defenseman that had stellar offensive production on a Torts team outside of Staal.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 26 @ 11:16 AM ET
I think he asks his defenseman to play a much different game, which could effect guys like Edler. A lot of his teams point come from turn-overs and not as much generating goals by offensive possesion and movement from the point. Which could hamper offensive guys like Edler. Cant really think of any defenseman that had stellar offensive production on a Torts team outside of Staal.
- SchennBros


Boyle, Del Zotto and Kubina
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 26 @ 11:19 AM ET
I think he asks his defenseman to play a much different game, which could effect guys like Edler. A lot of his teams point come from turn-overs and not as much generating goals by offensive possesion and movement from the point. Which could hamper offensive guys like Edler. Cant really think of any defenseman that had stellar offensive production on a Torts team outside of Staal.
- SchennBros



Boyle, Del Zotto.

edit: laught

edit2: guys like Staal and Girardi who weren't the most natural point producers did well under him. McDonagh and Ranger blossomed under him. Kuba was good under him too.
Boyer83
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ft Worth, TX
Joined: 12.16.2011

Feb 26 @ 11:21 AM ET
Holy Cow, Bill! You pulled every string you had to get all those Flyers greats to go to a fundraiser for a Jewish K-8 school! What the heck kind of K-8 would have even one of those guys show up? I hope that faculty is thanking you.

Excellence in Science, Torah, and Math! Love it
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 26 @ 11:23 AM ET
Holy Cow, Bill! You pulled every string you had to get all those Flyers greats to go to a fundraiser for a Jewish K-8 school! What the heck kind of K-8 would have even one of those guys show up? I hope that faculty is thanking you.

Excellence in Science, Torah, and Math! Love it

- Boyer83


Mazel Tov
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 11:28 AM ET
Seems like the Flyers are going to give Timonen the game against SJ off tomorrow night. He's practicing on the 4th pairing today.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Feb 26 @ 11:35 AM ET
Boyle, Del Zotto and Kubina
- PhillySportsGuy


Stand corrected I guess.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 26 @ 11:37 AM ET
hockey
Jack-Meoff
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 26 @ 11:37 AM ET
Bill,

I was looking for young defensemen for the Flyers to possibly trade for. Edler from Vancouver would make sense. If the Flyers offered B. Schenn do you think that would get it done? Would you make a trade that involved B. Schenn for Edler?

I think the Flyers would need to add something else. Schenn is an RFA so the Canucks control his rights. Edler is signed to an appropriate contract for the next 4 years. I imagine it would take at least an additional 1st round pick for the Flyers to get it done.

- mickel25



I would rather try and trade for Myers or Maatta.....the asking price would be alot lower, maybe Laughton+
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 26 @ 11:40 AM ET
I would rather try and trade for Myers or Maatta.....the asking price would be alot lower, maybe Laughton+
- Jack-Meoff


Not for Maata. He's a 19 year old top 4, two-way defenseman.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 26 @ 11:40 AM ET
I would rather try and trade for Myers or Maatta.....the asking price would be alot lower, maybe Laughton+
- Jack-Meoff

There is 0% chance that the Penguins trade Maatta to us, unless he becomes some sort of plague carrier.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 26 @ 11:41 AM ET
I would rather try and trade for Myers or Maatta.....the asking price would be alot lower, maybe Laughton+
- Jack-Meoff

the asking price for maatta lower than edlers?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 26 @ 11:41 AM ET
I would rather try and trade for Myers or Maatta.....the asking price would be alot lower, maybe Laughton+
- Jack-Meoff

The Pens cant afford to trade Maatta, and wouldnt anyway

Guys I would be looking into are Myers, Kulikov, Enstrom, hell even Gundbransen..
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 26 @ 11:42 AM ET
I wonder if Downie gets traded..
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
The Pens cant afford to trade Maatta, and wouldnt anyway

Guys I would be looking into are Myers, Kulikov, Enstrom, hell even Gundbransen..

- jak521


Maybe, , ,
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
the asking price for maatta lower than edlers?
- stayinthefnnet

I hope you're proud of me, that was my most sincere Maatta post ever.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 11:48 AM ET
I wonder if Downie gets traded..
- jak521


If Downie and Lecavalier don't come out flying tomorrow night after a 2.5 week break, they will be shells of themselves the rest of the season in all probability.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 26 @ 11:50 AM ET
If Downie and Lecavalier don't come out flying tomorrow night after a 2.5 week break, they will be shells of themselves the rest of the season in all probability.
- PLindbergh31



There's no possibility that there can be some rust after not playing for a while? Sometimes it takes players a period or so to get their legs. What if other players don't come out flying, what will their issue be?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 26 @ 11:52 AM ET
Seems like the Flyers are going to give Timonen the game against SJ off tomorrow night. He's practicing on the 4th pairing today.
- PLindbergh31


Can't let your most precious trading commodity get injured.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 26 @ 11:55 AM ET
Can't let your most precious trading commodity get injured.
- funmaster18


I think it would be prudent to trade him. I don't think it will happen. He played 6 games in Sochi, combined with travel. Although the last game he played will be the easiest he plays all year.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Feb 26 @ 11:56 AM ET
There's no possibility that there can be some rust after not playing for a while? Sometimes it takes players a period or so to get their legs. What if other players don't come out flying, what will their issue be?
- MJL

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