what of value are you guys giving up though?
- stayinthefnnet

Nothing. The Flyers aren't in a buyer or seller mode. They don't have many young assets they can move that won't hurt them, and they're not "one player away" from being a contender. At the same time, they're currently in a playoff spot. Unless they move a guy like Meszaros or get some crazy offer they can't refuse (Shea Weber for Rosehill being the craziest), I don't see them making anything other than a true hockey trade. And I don't think MSL fits long-term here.

Nothing. The Flyers aren't in a buyer or seller mode. They don't have many young assets they can move that won't hurt them, and they're not "one player away" from being a contender. At the same time, they're currently in a playoff spot. Unless they move a guy like Meszaros or get some crazy offer they can't refuse (Shea Weber for Rosehill being the craziest), I don't see them making anything other than a true hockey trade. And I don't think MSL fits long-term here.
- jmatchett383

Id like to see them add a 4th liner with some speed. Someone cheap and similar to an Eric Wellwood pre-injury.

Id like to see them add a 4th liner with some speed. Someone cheap and similar to an Eric Wellwood pre-injury.
- PhillySportsGuy

I really wonder what Gagne's up to.

How about Pavel Bure? He's still probably fast as can be.

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- jmatchett383

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Nothing. The Flyers aren't in a buyer or seller mode. They don't have many young assets they can move that won't hurt them, and they're not "one player away" from being a contender. At the same time, they're currently in a playoff spot. Unless they move a guy like Meszaros or get some crazy offer they can't refuse (Shea Weber for Rosehill being the craziest), I don't see them making anything other than a true hockey trade. And I don't think MSL fits long-term here.
- jmatchett383

i feel the pens are in the same boat.

i feel the pens are in the same boat.
- stayinthefnnet

The Pens, to me, are a top cotender every year (assuming MAF doesn't crap the bed). If I were them, I'd really consider MSL. I know the both he and Crosby are natural playmakers, but they can both fire the puck. I'd hate to try to stop that line.

Id like to see them add a 4th liner with some speed. Someone cheap and similar to an Eric Wellwood pre-injury.
- PhillySportsGuy

yeah. id love to just have a healthy dupuis.

Nothing. The Flyers aren't in a buyer or seller mode. They don't have many young assets they can move that won't hurt them, and they're not "one player away" from being a contender. At the same time, they're currently in a playoff spot. Unless they move a guy like Meszaros or get some crazy offer they can't refuse (Shea Weber for Rosehill being the craziest), I don't see them making anything other than a true hockey trade. And I don't think MSL fits long-term here.
- jmatchett383

I think Hockey Trade is key here. I can see Homer being very busy at this TDL. Either moving a center for a defenseman, moving some of our d-depth, etc.

I literllay could see a scenerio that Flyers trade Timonen for cap space and land Buff with a few other pick ups and drops... ie Meszaros and a depth forward.

The Pens, to me, are a top cotender every year (assuming MAF doesn't crap the bed). If I were them, I'd really consider MSL. I know the both he and Crosby are natural playmakers, but they can both fire the puck. I'd hate to try to stop that line.
- jmatchett383

i dont want another iginla situation. id be a buyer at a first, yet again. but its where the plus starts to come into it where i would probably shrug off.

I think Hockey Trade is key here. I can see Homer being very busy at this TDL. Either moving a center for a defenseman, moving some of our d-depth, etc.

I literllay could see a scenerio that Flyers trade Timonen for cap space and land Buff with a few other pick ups and drops... ie Meszaros and a depth forward.
- SchennBros

I highly doubt this happens for many reasons

I highly doubt this happens for many reasons
- nonpoint22

I wasnt giving it a high probability, but I wouldnt be shocked to see a series of events that this happens. Homer still has to feel like his butt is on the line, and if he sits still and does nothing again and this team strikes out, i think it will be his head. I think he has to do something to make this team better for the future, without hurting the now...

i dont want another iginla situation. id be a buyer at a first, yet again. but its where the plus starts to come into it where i would probably shrug off.
- stayinthefnnet

MSL is better than Iginila was last year. He's the best player on one of the best teams in the East. He would be much more worth obtaining than Iginla. I think he problem for the Pens is that any move would hurt their future even more.

If you start giving away multiple years of picks, you end up like the Flyers are now. They have some decent prospects for a few years from now, but nothing breaking into the league right now.

It would take a significant amount to get MSL. A roster player + a legit prospect.

yeah. id love to just have a healthy dupuis.
- stayinthefnnet

The little additions are usually the best ones. Think of all the moves the Pens made last season and it was Jussi Jokinen who ended up being the best.

So could Vinny get his old buddy Marty St Louis in here for a year with Giroux?

I think Hockey Trade is key here. I can see Homer being very busy at this TDL. Either moving a center for a defenseman, moving some of our d-depth, etc.

I literllay could see a scenerio that Flyers trade Timonen for cap space and land Buff with a few other pick ups and drops... ie Meszaros and a depth forward.
- SchennBros

I don't see that happening. Do you think Timonen is going to wave his NTC? He's on a team in playoff position he's spent 8 years with.

So could Vinny get his old buddy Marty St Louis in here for a year with Giroux?
- Winning

Not unless Vinny and his salary are going somewhere else.

I don't see that happening. Do you think Timonen is going to wave his NTC? He's on a team in playoff position he's spent 8 years with.
- PhillySportsGuy

Did you see MSL demanding a trade? I mean Timonen is a smart man, if a team like Anaheim wanted to add him for a playoff run, he might waive to get the cup.

MSL is better than Iginila was last year. He's the best player on one of the best teams in the East. He would be much more worth obtaining than Iginla. I think he problem for the Pens is that any move would hurt their future even more.

If you start giving away multiple years of picks, you end up like the Flyers are now. They have some decent prospects for a few years from now, but nothing breaking into the league right now.

It would take a significant amount to get MSL. A roster player + a legit prospect.
- PhillySportsGuy

oh yeah. its worrisome. i dont even like the idea of losing the first yet again. and those seconds for murray. its rough.

i agree with you. they [imay have the goods to get him i guess, but i dont think it would be worth it. say a first, pouliot, plus? id have to bow out. although i do think he would be a great add, even if he isnt a position of need as much as the bottom 6.

So could Vinny get his old buddy Marty St Louis in here for a year with Giroux?
- Winning

destiny

Not unless Vinny and his salary are going somewhere else.
- PhillySportsGuy

Or Tampa takes Mez back. Pair him with Carle...

destiny
- Crimsoninja

Stanley Cup

Did you see MSL demanding a trade? I mean Timonen is a smart man, if a team like Anaheim wanted to add him for a playoff run, he might waive to get the cup.
- SchennBros

He might wave for Anaheim. That may be the only team. I just don't think its logical to do all that maneuvering. Im not a big Byfuglien guy to begin with, but if the Flyers want him, they might as well wait for the offseason. Prices will come down, they will have more cap flexibility and know where they plan on drafting.

I really wonder what Gagne's up to.

How about Pavel Bure? He's still probably fast as can be.
- jmatchett383

Gagne is now known as Mr Fix it in his home.

oh yeah. its worrisome. i dont even like the idea of losing the first yet again. and those seconds for murray. its rough.

i agree with you. they
- stayinthefnnet[imay have the goods to get him i guess, but i dont think it would be worth it. say a first, pouliot, plus? id have to bow out. although i do think he would be a great add, even if he isnt a position of need as much as the bottom 6.

Would you do Neal + 1st + 2nd?
Neal+Pouliot?

He might wave for Anaheim. That may be the only team. I just don't think its logical to do all that maneuvering. Im not a big Byfuglien guy to begin with, but if the Flyers want him, they might as well wait for the offseason. Prices will come down, they will have more cap flexibility and know where they plan on drafting.
- PhillySportsGuy

If Buff is still there. He might be in NYR by then.

I'm not a propenent for making a move for a big named d-man. i think they should build a solid core of players instead.