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S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

Feb 27 @ 12:05 AM ET
Ask Bob McKenzie!

So for example, would Kesler be prepared to go back to Ohio - he played at Ohio State University - for the Columbus Blue Jackets? And if he was prepared to do that, would the Blue Jackets give up a young centre like Ryan Johansen? Would the New York Rangers give up Derek Stepan, or someone along those lines? Again, someone who is between 20 and 25 who the Canucks can put in their lineup. If they can find the absolute right fit, and they would have to take some money back on Kesler because in order to make these trades, there's a lot of teams that are capped out and would have a tough time taking his salary - although when you look at his contract it's an awesome contract for that guy. So yeah, it's being considered.

- Champ


sorry, the trade still makes zero sense to me from Columbus's end, i don't care how much kesler likes ohio. though if bob really is saying that i don't know what to think

bottom line, i dont really get the point of trading a center like stepan/johansen for kesler, strikes me as a lateral move at best (and that's generous)

Ah I see where you got that from. Looks to me like it's an ideal scenario for Vancouver but whether it's actually realistic is another question...ie. Kesler probably isn't moving if that's their demand
Number04
Location: AND THIS IS NOT EVEN HYPOOTHETICAL
Joined: 01.05.2014

Feb 27 @ 12:06 AM ET
Ask Bob McKenzie!

So for example, would Kesler be prepared to go back to Ohio - he played at Ohio State University - for the Columbus Blue Jackets? And if he was prepared to do that, would the Blue Jackets give up a young centre like Ryan Johansen? Would the New York Rangers give up Derek Stepan, or someone along those lines? Again, someone who is between 20 and 25 who the Canucks can put in their lineup. If they can find the absolute right fit, and they would have to take some money back on Kesler because in order to make these trades, there's a lot of teams that are capped out and would have a tough time taking his salary - although when you look at his contract it's an awesome contract for that guy. So yeah, it's being considered.

- Champ



Pure speculation based on past history, I dont see him wanting to go there just because he played for Ohio State.

Too easy.

Whats Kesler's contract, NMC wise?
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 27 @ 12:07 AM ET
sorry, the trade still makes zero sense to me from Columbus's end, i don't care how much kesler likes ohio. though if bob really is saying that i don't know what to think

bottom line, i dont really get the point of trading a center like stepan/johansen for kesler, strikes me as a lateral move at best (and that's generous)

- S Kaspar Rollins


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444757

He is assuming that Kesler and Torts don't get along and Kesler wants out.
Number04
Location: AND THIS IS NOT EVEN HYPOOTHETICAL
Joined: 01.05.2014

Feb 27 @ 12:08 AM ET
sorry, the trade still makes zero sense to me from Columbus's end, i don't care how much kesler likes ohio. though if bob really is saying that i don't know what to think

bottom line, i dont really get the point of trading a center like stepan/johansen for kesler, strikes me as a lateral move at best (and that's generous)

- S Kaspar Rollins



Boy I wish Eklund used this kind of rational thinking before he hits the enter button on his computer.

Spot on analysis, I dont see it happening unless Doug Maclean's back in charge.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 27 @ 12:08 AM ET
Pure speculation based on past history, I dont see him wanting to go there just because he played for Ohio State.

Too easy.

Whats Kesler's contract, NMC wise?

- Number04


Has a NTC
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

Feb 27 @ 12:09 AM ET
Pure speculation based on past history, I dont see him wanting to go there just because he played for Ohio State.

Too easy.

Whats Kesler's contract, NMC wise?

- Number04


full NMC

Reading Bob's report I agree, it's speculation. overall sense, it's overall pretty unlikely he gets dealt by the deadline.

then again gillis has a history of overvaluing his players (see Luongo, Roberto)
arps714
Joined: 06.21.2012

Feb 27 @ 12:09 AM ET
Hawks need a 2C and to get rid of bad contract players like Bickell. Could be pretty funny if Kesler ends up there
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

Feb 27 @ 12:11 AM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444757

He is assuming that Kesler and Torts don't get along and Kesler wants out.

- Champ


may be so, but still doesn't answer why Columbus/NYR would be willing to give up good, younger, cheaper centers for an injury prone and getting older Kesler. i mean, maybe he just meant players LIKE johansen/stepan but there aren't too many of those around

normally i wouldn't question a report from Bob but the reported demands there strike me as a bit bizarre
Number04
Location: AND THIS IS NOT EVEN HYPOOTHETICAL
Joined: 01.05.2014

Feb 27 @ 12:11 AM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444757

He is assuming that Kesler and Torts don't get along and Kesler wants out.

- Champ



I assumed that from the start, I doubt anyone on that team actually likes the guy, if they were in first place and winning games this would all be moot anyway.

When your losing, having a hothead coach like Torts is painful. Not comparing myself to a pro, but I played hockey for years and I had a coach like him once, even when we won we still felt like we did something wrong.

Somethings up in Van City, something has to give soon, this is the Torts pattern.

Either way its fun to watch.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 27 @ 12:12 AM ET
full NMC

Reading Bob's report I agree, it's speculation. overall sense, it's overall pretty unlikely he gets dealt by the deadline.

then again gillis has a history of overvaluing his players (see Luongo, Roberto)

- S Kaspar Rollins



Not according to cap geek...That said NMC/NTC little difference
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Feb 27 @ 12:12 AM ET
I love this site, its like the TMZ of sports.

I can see Ek with his blue cup and straw sitting around with his team of insiders..




See those trade rumors on the board!

- Number04


Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 27 @ 12:12 AM ET
may be so, but still doesn't answer why Columbus/NYR would be willing to give up good, younger, cheaper centers for an injury prone and getting older Kesler

normally i wouldn't question a report from Bob but the reported demands there strike me as a bit bizarre

- S Kaspar Rollins


Also what Dreger said.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 27 @ 12:13 AM ET


Kesler will fetch a young up and coming player like Clb Ryan Johansen or Derek Stephan as per Bob McKenzie. So obviously hoping to land PK alone would be impossible.

- Champ


No he's not.

would the Blue Jackets give up a young centre like Ryan Johansen? Would the New York Rangers give up Derek Stepan, or someone along those lines? Again, someone who is between 20 and 25 who the Canucks can put in their lineup. If they can find the absolute right fit, and they would have to take some money back on Kesler because in order to make these trades, there's a lot of teams that are capped out and would have a tough time taking his salary - Bob McKenzie


He's saying that's what the Canucks would be looking for. Not what they could expect back. Neither of those teams would give up those guys for Kesler.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 27 @ 12:14 AM ET
Hawks need a 2C and to get rid of bad contract players like Bickell. Could be pretty funny if Kesler ends up there
- arps714


Kesler for Keith and a 1st
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 27 @ 12:14 AM ET
I assumed that from the start, I doubt anyone on that team actually likes the guy, if they were in first place and winning games this would all be moot anyway.

When your losing, having a hothead coach like Torts is painful. Not comparing myself to a pro, but I played hockey for years and I had a coach like him once, even when we won we still felt like we did something wrong.

Somethings up in Van City, something has to give soon, this is the Torts pattern.

Either way its fun to watch.

- Number04


Seriously, Torts was a bad hire for Van.
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

Feb 27 @ 12:15 AM ET
Seriously, Torts was a bad hire for Van.
- Champ


first bad sign was that the owner Aquilini was reportedly the one who pushed for it
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 27 @ 12:15 AM ET

- hankthetank



Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Feb 27 @ 12:16 AM ET


Why's PK always in the picture when the other team is celebrating a goal.......
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 27 @ 12:17 AM ET
may be so, but still doesn't answer why Columbus/NYR would be willing to give up good, younger, cheaper centers for an injury prone and getting older Kesler. i mean, maybe he just meant players LIKE johansen/stepan but there aren't too many of those around

normally i wouldn't question a report from Bob but the reported demands there strike me as a bit bizarre

- S Kaspar Rollins


They wouldn't.
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 27 @ 12:17 AM ET
first bad sign was that the owner Aquilini was reportedly the one who pushed for it
- S Kaspar Rollins


The Sedin's can't like Torts his style
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

Feb 27 @ 12:18 AM ET
They wouldn't.
- Iggysbff


yeah i really hope thats what gillis actually wants and he ends up in the same situation as he did when he overvalued luongo for too long
Bakwas
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.22.2012

Feb 27 @ 12:18 AM ET
Kesler for Milan Lucic and lets call it a day
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 27 @ 12:18 AM ET
The Sedin's can't like Torts his style
- Champ



Had trouble believing that Torts would like the Sedin's style...
Number04
Location: AND THIS IS NOT EVEN HYPOOTHETICAL
Joined: 01.05.2014

Feb 27 @ 12:19 AM ET
first bad sign was that the owner Aquilini was reportedly the one who pushed for it
- S Kaspar Rollins


He must of got it in his head the team needed a kick in the ass take no prisoners type of guy, not sure he made the right call.

The team seems to have hit a wall, they needed a shakeup of somekind, but this Torts idea is only going to end one way and everyone knows it.

I say enjoy the show
Number04
Location: AND THIS IS NOT EVEN HYPOOTHETICAL
Joined: 01.05.2014

Feb 27 @ 12:20 AM ET


Why's PK always in the picture when the other team is celebrating a goal.......

- Sheppy99



Probably forgot what it felt like. Or he's a top class photo bomber.
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