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NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Mar 3 @ 7:10 PM ET
Like it or not, I think Bowman is going to try to plug in Teravainen at the end of the month.
- EKolb13

Barring something unforeseen in the next two days, I would expect TT to suit up for the 3/28 game against the Senators. I don't think Stan would want his intro to the NHL game be against the Bruins the night before and this keeps him at only 8 games played for the year if he plays out the schedule.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Mar 3 @ 7:10 PM ET
Like it or not, I think Bowman is going to try to plug in Teravainen at the end of the month.
- EKolb13




In Stan we Trust
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Mar 3 @ 7:21 PM ET
Thanks, Eli. I was eating when I read that.
- NewToHockey


EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Mar 3 @ 7:22 PM ET
Nothing can replace Wubzy.
- Elbows15


eagle50
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.13.2012

Mar 3 @ 7:43 PM ET
Barring something unforeseen in the next two days, I would expect TT to suit up for the 3/28 game against the Senators. I don't think Stan would want his intro to the NHL game be against the Bruins the night before and this keeps him at only 8 games played for the year if he plays out the schedule.
- NewToHockey

I hope that you are correct on that date,I will be at that game and would love to see TT.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Mar 3 @ 7:54 PM ET
Barring something unforeseen in the next two days, I would expect TT to suit up for the 3/28 game against the Senators. I don't think Stan would want his intro to the NHL game be against the Bruins the night before and this keeps him at only 8 games played for the year if he plays out the schedule.
- NewToHockey


That would be amazing, just to see if he can contribute right off the bat as we go into the playoffs. Can u just imagine this teams offensive firepower if TT can produce instantly AND if Bickell rounds into form?
Q...argh
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.07.2013

Mar 3 @ 7:55 PM ET
Damn, work late and miss much. I hope we can get Kessler. The rumored offer sounds fair. If they wanna go with TT & picks over Leddy, fine. WTF would we bother with and pay large for Brodeur??? Makes no sense.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Mar 3 @ 7:57 PM ET
[quote=Q...argh]


I think the Hawks offer of Bickell, Leddynand McNeil is the very best deal the Canucks will receive. Because of that I feel like Gillis will pluck it up again and not trade Kesler and the Canucks will super tank. The Canucks are the worst franchise in the NHL.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 3 @ 8:01 PM ET
I think the Hawks offer of Bickell, Leddynand McNeil is the very best deal the Canucks will receive. Because of that I feel like Gillis will pluck it up again and not trade Kesler and the Canucks will super tank. The Canucks are the worst franchise in the NHL.
- mrpaulish



I'd be ok with that deal but Stan would have to make another move to replace Leddy, both in the short term and long term.

I may be in the minority, but I don't want Kesler. I don't think he's worth the assets it would take to get him.
Q...argh
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.07.2013

Mar 3 @ 8:01 PM ET
At the risk of pizzing folks off for a topic from last thread, I just want to post my response to Mohel's laye post, which I missed by several hours, because I think it underscores the need to improve vis-a-vis plugging a gaping hole, and shows the miscalculation in pooh-poohing the Blues:

I went through the Hawks and Blues seasons so far and here's a breakdown of the number of times they've scored.

0 1 2 3 3+

Blues - 2 6 16 13 23

Hawks 1 8 17 9 27


Hawks have scored less than three goals two more times than the Blues. They have also played two more games than the Blues. In all, the distribution looks pretty similar to me. Note, I did not include the "shoot out" goal in the totals, since I don't believe it is a hockey goal.
- mohel

Thank you! This is a very telling stat. The two twams essentially score at the same rate. I think this disproves the "Blues can't score goals" theory.
Q...argh
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.07.2013

Mar 3 @ 8:02 PM ET
I think the Hawks offer of Bickell, Leddynand McNeil is the very best deal the Canucks will receive. Because of that I feel like Gillis will pluck it up again and not trade Kesler and the Canucks will super tank. The Canucks are the worst franchise in the NHL.
- mrpaulish

No argument there. They are the epitomy of self-destruction.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Mar 3 @ 8:10 PM ET
I'd be ok with that deal but Stan would have to make another move to replace Leddy, both in the short term and long term.

I may be in the minority, but I don't want Kesler. I don't think he's worth the assets it would take to get him.

- DarthKane


Agreed.

I'm okay with the idea of Kesler, but not with what Bowman would have to trade to get him.
Topshelf2010
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.29.2011

Mar 3 @ 8:17 PM ET
I'd be ok with that deal but Stan would have to make another move to replace Leddy, both in the short term and long term.

I may be in the minority, but I don't want Kesler. I don't think he's worth the assets it would take to get him.

- DarthKane

Kessler can be a monster if healthy - the question - how much does he have left as injuries have taken its toll the last few years. He layed it all on the line during the 2010-1 season - basically won the first two playoff series for the knuckleheads.

in the end, you move bickel and leddy can be replaced. McNeil, where does he fit in a few years?
Topshelf2010
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.29.2011

Mar 3 @ 8:21 PM ET
In Stan we Trust
- mrpaulish

lol You win some and you lose some. If you are ok with that - then stan is your man.
prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Mar 3 @ 8:22 PM ET
Kessler can be a monster if healthy - the question - how much does he have left as injuries have taken its toll the last few years. He layed it all on the line during the 2010-1 season - basically won the first two playoff series for the knuckleheads.

in the end, you move bickel and leddy can be replaced. McNeil, where does he fit in a few years?

- Topshelf2010



DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 3 @ 8:24 PM ET
Kessler can be a monster if healthy - the question - how much does he have left as injuries have taken its toll the last few years. He layed it all on the line during the 2010-1 season - basically won the first two playoff series for the knuckleheads.

in the end, you move bickel and leddy can be replaced. McNeil, where does he fit in a few years?

- Topshelf2010



But does that deal make sense for the Canucks? They are already weak down the middle so not getting and NHL centre back would make things worse for them. McNeill may be NHL ready in a couple years but they need a body right now. If the Canucks were seriously considering trading Kesler to Chicago (highly unlikely) they would be looking at Kruger or Shaw to be part of the package. Again, I'd have to pass. In his prime Kesler is better than both, but he's not in his prime and we'd have him for only 2 more seasons. Kruger and Shaw we could have (at reasonable deals) for another 5.

Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Mar 3 @ 8:27 PM ET
At the risk of pizzing folks off for a topic from last thread, I just want to post my response to Mohel's laye post, which I missed by several hours, because I think it underscores the need to improve vis-a-vis plugging a gaping hole, and shows the miscalculation in pooh-poohing the Blues:

I went through the Hawks and Blues seasons so far and here's a breakdown of the number of times they've scored.

0 1 2 3 3+

Blues - 2 6 16 13 23

Hawks 1 8 17 9 27


Hawks have scored less than three goals two more times than the Blues. They have also played two more games than the Blues. In all, the distribution looks pretty similar to me. Note, I did not include the "shoot out" goal in the totals, since I don't believe it is a hockey goal.
- mohel

Thank you! This is a very telling stat. The two twams essentially score at the same rate. I think this disproves the "Blues can't score goals" theory.

- Q...argh


Scoring is not nearly as balanced at forward for top end scorers. Blues defenders score goals.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 3 @ 8:28 PM ET
At the risk of pizzing folks off for a topic from last thread, I just want to post my response to Mohel's laye post, which I missed by several hours, because I think it underscores the need to improve vis-a-vis plugging a gaping hole, and shows the miscalculation in pooh-poohing the Blues:

I went through the Hawks and Blues seasons so far and here's a breakdown of the number of times they've scored.

0 1 2 3 3+

Blues - 2 6 16 13 23

Hawks 1 8 17 9 27


Hawks have scored less than three goals two more times than the Blues. They have also played two more games than the Blues. In all, the distribution looks pretty similar to me. Note, I did not include the "shoot out" goal in the totals, since I don't believe it is a hockey goal.
- mohel

Thank you! This is a very telling stat. The two twams essentially score at the same rate. I think this disproves the "Blues can't score goals" theory.

- Q...argh


Their goal total for the year also confirms this. The argument about their goal scoring is that in the playoffs there will be less depth scoring and that their top talent can't score enough to carry the load. I'm not sure I buy that - I think the Blues can score fine. However, when the Hawks play their best they shut down teams pretty well. So, we shall see how that plays out.

The reason for the post you quoted was to address the question of whether the Hawks are inconsistent in the scoring; with lots of high-scoring games and lots of low-scoring games. I thought the distribution showed that the Blues and Hawks offenses are very similar in terms of consistency.
rollpards19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL
Joined: 05.03.2012

Mar 3 @ 8:34 PM ET
Their goal total for the year also confirms this. The argument about their goal scoring is that in the playoffs there will be less depth scoring and that their top talent can't score enough to carry the load. I'm not sure I buy that - I think the Blues can score fine. However, when the Hawks play their best they shut down teams pretty well. So, we shall see how that plays out.

The reason for the post you quoted was to address the question of whether the Hawks are inconsistent in the scoring; with lots of high-scoring games and lots of low-scoring games. I thought the distribution showed that the Blues and Hawks offenses are very similar in terms of consistency.

- mohel

I'm going to study this tonight. I know you'll be on pins and needles waiting for results.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Mar 3 @ 8:36 PM ET
In a couple of days, all the Kesler to Chicago crazy talk will all be over.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 3 @ 8:37 PM ET
I don't know why I haven't seen this before but it's pretty damn funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prZjWIAx7ns
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 3 @ 8:37 PM ET
In a couple of days, all the Kesler to Chicago crazy talk will all be over.
- EKolb13



I can't wait....urgh.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 3 @ 8:37 PM ET
I'm going to study this tonight. I know you'll be on pins and needles waiting for results.
- rollpards19


I am always interested in the facts, rollpards, and your analytical info. Pins and needles might be a stretch, I'll admit. Just remember that I said "I'm not sure I buy that."
prd797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Scotland
Joined: 06.17.2012

Mar 3 @ 8:39 PM ET
In a couple of days, all the Kesler to Chicago crazy talk will all be over.
- EKolb13


And I won't have to post stupid pictures every time somebody adds an extra 's' to that douche's name
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 3 @ 8:41 PM ET
In a couple of days, all the Kesler to Chicago crazy talk will all be over.
- EKolb13

What about Kessler? Still a chance?
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