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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 3 @ 11:42 PM ET
You're a History buff...you ever read "In the Garden of Beasts" by Erik Larsson?
- Ogilthorpe2

No, I haven't.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 3 @ 11:42 PM ET
has Morin been recalled ? Who's gonna fill in for Hossa for the next 14-21 days ?
- philco28


I don't think so, and Al suggested earlier that he wouldn't be. I guess it is Saad to the first and Regin and Zues to 2C and 3RW.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Mar 3 @ 11:43 PM ET
It's crap. Like I said, once you demand a trade, your right to refuse any trade should be void. NTC is designed to prevent a player from being traded, unexpectedly, to somewhere he doesn't want to go, not to give the player absolute control.
- Ogilthorpe2


I'm jumping in here with some trepidation...

If you are referring to St.Louis....He has the most restrictive of all trade clause a NMC...He has to okay any move anywhere.

So whether they come to him or he goes to them it doesn't really matter...He controls if and where he is going.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
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Mar 3 @ 11:44 PM ET
Hello, Mr. Line Buster....
- mohel

Meh. That is all I have to say about it. Unfortunately, I am also aware it doesn't work that way.
UnnamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
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Mar 3 @ 11:46 PM ET
I don't think so, and Al suggested earlier that he wouldn't be. I guess it is Saad to the first and Regin and Zues to 2C and 3RW.
- mohel



Interested to see how Regin looks after an extended period of playing time.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 3 @ 11:46 PM ET
I'm jumping in here with some trepidation...

If you are referring to St.Louis....He has the most restrictive of all trade clause a NMC...He has to okay any move anywhere.

So whether they come to him or he goes to them it doesn't really matter...He controls if and where he is going.

- Al


True, but he doesn't have the contractual right to force a trade. Most of the talk was of Kesler, and whether a guy who demands a trade should still have the right to choose the destination.
Ogilthorpe2
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Mar 3 @ 11:47 PM ET
No, I haven't.
- Elbows15

It's a good read, and kind of topical with regard to intervening/not intervening in international affairs. Written using primariy the memoirs of the American Embassador to Germany in the mid-late 1930's.
Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
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Mar 3 @ 11:48 PM ET
Interested to see how Regin looks after an extended period of playing time.
- UnnamedSource

Lost and useless?
Ogilthorpe2
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Mar 3 @ 11:49 PM ET
True, but he doesn't have the contractual right to force a trade. Most of the talk was of Kesler, and whether a guy who demands a trade should still have the right to choose the destination.
- mohel

Yup, Yzerman could hold him hostage. (frank) him, cry baby.
UnnamedSource
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Mar 3 @ 11:49 PM ET
Lost and useless?
- Elbows15



.....I thought he was traded yesterday
rollpards19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL
Joined: 05.03.2012

Mar 3 @ 11:50 PM ET
Lost and useless?
- Elbows15

check your pms
Ogilthorpe2
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Mar 3 @ 11:50 PM ET
Interested to see how Regin looks after an extended period of playing time.
- UnnamedSource

Tired and sweaty would be my guess.
rollpards19
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Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL
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Mar 3 @ 11:51 PM ET
It's a good read, and kind of topical with regard to intervening/not intervening in international affairs. Written using primariy the memoirs of the American Embassador to Germany in the mid-late 1930's.
- Ogilthorpe2

Now that's a hell of a job
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
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Mar 3 @ 11:51 PM ET
It's a good read, and kind of topical with regard to intervening/not intervening in international affairs. Written using primariy the memoirs of the American Embassador to Germany in the mid-late 1930's.
- Ogilthorpe2


I will have to give it a look. I did read the Devil in White City by him.
StLBravesFan
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Mar 3 @ 11:52 PM ET
It's a good read, and kind of topical with regard to intervening/not intervening in international affairs. Written using primariy the memoirs of the American Embassador to Germany in the mid-late 1930's.
- Ogilthorpe2


The key is recognizing when and when not to get involved: which bad guys are really Hitlers and which are merely bad guys who, if you force a regime change, are just replaced by other bad guys.

Didn't read that Larson book, but read his book on the Columbian Exposition and Chicago's serial killer. Good read: not sure I knew about Dr. Holmes before that book.
UnnamedSource
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Mar 3 @ 11:53 PM ET
Tired and sweaty would be my guess.
- Ogilthorpe2



probably right.....
Al
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Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Mar 3 @ 11:53 PM ET
True, but he doesn't have the contractual right to force a trade. Most of the talk was of Kesler, and whether a guy who demands a trade should still have the right to choose the destination.
- mohel



From what I heard that's not exactly the way it went down...

Chatter is he had a sit down and asked about his future with the team. It evolved into being open to a trade but most naturally it has to be to a place he wants to go to.

No player has a contractual right to force a trade but they can control a lot of the factors involved.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
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Mar 3 @ 11:54 PM ET
.....I thought he was traded yesterday
- UnnamedSource

Just one was. Hopefully the second leaves after Wednesday.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
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Mar 3 @ 11:55 PM ET
check your pms
- rollpards19

responded.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:56 PM ET
At this point, no. Looks like Regin and Zues most likely until after Wednesdays.
- Elbows15


Hold the fort time
Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
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Mar 3 @ 11:58 PM ET
Hold the fort time
- philco28

Pretty much. If they Hawks don't add anyone by Wednesday, maybe someone will be called up then.
philco28
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Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Mar 3 @ 11:58 PM ET
I don't think so, and Al suggested earlier that he wouldn't be. I guess it is Saad to the first and Regin and Zues to 2C and 3RW.
- mohel


Zeus on the wing ?
philco28
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Mar 3 @ 11:59 PM ET
Pretty much. If they Hawks don't add anyone by Wednesday, maybe someone will be called up then.
- Elbows15


Any fire to the smoke of the Marty Brodeur to Chi speculation ya think ?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
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Mar 4 @ 12:00 AM ET
It's a good read, and kind of topical with regard to intervening/not intervening in international affairs. Written using primariy the memoirs of the American Embassador to Germany in the mid-late 1930's.
- Ogilthorpe2


Speaking of books about history. If you haven't read. "At Dawn We Slept". you should give it a read.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 4 @ 12:01 AM ET
Any fire to the smoke of the Marty Brodeur to Chi speculation ya think ?
- philco28

Really can't see that move at all Phil. Marty was great but he is done, imo.
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