He's a solid player, but there's no way in hell that he's good enough to be a centrepiece for a player like Kesler.
- Nucker101

He's really not. Canucks Army wrote an article on him earlier today with all the advanced stats you love. He's had a poor season with advantageous minutes. Really nothing but a depth move if someone were looking to acquire him. To have him centerpiece a trade for Kesler is a joke.

Yup.

Come on Philly deal...
- Fosco

Props to Shero if these reported negotiations are legit, in the back of his mind he might already be willing to give up Pouliot, 1st and Sutter or something similar but is trying to see if he can get it done before it gets to that point. Well done.

Yup.

Come on Philly deal...
- Fosco

By far our best trade partner for out needs. We need Snider and Berube to push Homer into making an overpayment because they can't let the Pens get em!

Strange. Archibald has been mediocre for the Comets since returning to the AHL.
- Fosco

Considering Daniel's offensive output in 2014, Archibald will slot into the lineup seamlessly, and he is more physical.

He's really not. Canucks Army wrote an article on him earlier today with all the advanced stats you love. He's had a poor season with advantageous minutes. Really nothing but a depth move if someone were looking to acquire him. To have centerpiece a trade for Kesler is a joke.
- AlexF

I like advanced stats, but do not believe them to be a 100% best way to judge a player. He has crappy linemates this year, Pitt's bottom 6 wingers are a joke. He's a decent 3LC, but there's a reason why Pitt is more than willing to package him for Kesler.

I guess I can't argue with it being a bold move. But the idea that he could be an immediate impact sounds like it was a real gamble iirc Kassian was being scratched a bit at the time.

But as I said, Kassian has been playing better of late and seems to be more comfortable with the puck. He has made mistakes but I wouldn't expect it otherwise.

Why does Torts accept the gunslinger in Bieksa and not some other players?

- hillbillydeluxe

Not sure.

There are a number of possible reasons Kassian hasn't gotten a shot with the twins this season, but there are just as many reasons he should get a decent look there.

Overall he seems to be progressing and contributing more, so I'm not going to complain too much about it.

Considering Daniel's offensive output in 2014, Archibald will slot into the lineup seamlessly, and he is more physical.
- fiveandagame

BS. Pete Carroll is one of the best Head Coaches I've ever witnessed in any sport/any league. He had ZERO success while he was at the mercy of some other guy's roster build. Then went to USC with full control & built a dynasty... Came back to the NFL with the same power and has built the best roster top to bottom that I've ever seen with the Seahawks (because the pieces fit his personal philosophy). The same group of Seahawks wouldn't be near as dominant under sayyy Greg Schiano. Coaches NEED roster input when you're hiring them for their tactical vision. Otherwise, hire a motivational speaker.
- DrChristianTroy

So Torts is building out this roster according to his style? I don't see any indication of that.

Why would the Pens in a win now mode trade away their only 40 goal winger? They are in the business of trading future pieces for players that can upgrade them now.
- 89_hockey

Maybe they aren't worried about scoring and want more grit to play against Philly and the Bruins?

You have to negotiate don't you? Why not aim a bit high, it is a rumor site?

I bet Philly is not as trigger-happy after seeing how Bryz, Schenn/JVR, Streit, etc have worked out. I really hope that they have serious interest, but if not then it makes it that much easier for Shero to bend over Gillis.

"First Class" would be outplaying your backup & earning your contract. Having a sense of humor about the sh!tty situation you've put yourself in via twitter may be endearing to some, but not me. Buy the loser out already.
- DrChristianTroy

Best goalie in Canucks history by a country mile. Give the guy a bit of respect. What player wouldn't sign a contract like that? You would have

He took partial blame for the situation, having a contract that was impossible to move. According to some insiders Gillis had the opportunity to move him BEFORE the new CBA and got greedy. His stock has plummeted since, and Gillis is to blame.

But honestly, who knows who is actually pulling the strings over there. This behind the scene crap is annoying. All I know, is this organization has treated a top notch goaltender and a decent guy like absolute poop and its embarrassing.

I hope for everyone's sake they buy him out... its just getting old.

Strange. Archibald has been mediocre for the Comets since returning to the AHL.
- Fosco

Makes sense. Let Jensen continue his good play and continue to build confidence right now. No sense bringing him up to the Canucks so that he can damage the confidence he's built up over the past few months.

So Torts is building out this roster according to his style? I don't see any indication of that.
- docmorgan

I didn't say anything of the sort. I'm saying he should have input on roster moves. Playera acquired need to fit his vision or we're wasting our time.

I bet Philly is not as trigger-happy after seeing how Bryz, Schenn/JVR, Streit, etc have worked out. I really hope that they have serious interest, but if not then it makes it that much easier for Shero to bend over Gillis.
- Nucker101

The flip side to that is they have to start fixing those mistakes.

So Torts is building out this roster according to his style? I don't see any indication of that.
- docmorgan

You will. Just takes more time than fans would like. Especially when the cap drops $6M and nobody has cap space, making trades even harder.

The Sens are shopping Spezza. Why dont we go after him!?

So Torts is building out this roster according to his style? I don't see any indication of that.
- docmorgan

The problem is Torts has no say in what pieces are brought into the org. He wants his type of players for his style/system and since he can't get that working, why not fu the goaltending to get some attention.

BS. Pete Carroll is one of the best Head Coaches I've ever witnessed in any sport/any league. He had ZERO success while he was at the mercy of some other guy's roster build. Then went to USC with full control & built a dynasty... Came back to the NFL with the same power and has built the best roster top to bottom that I've ever seen with the Seahawks (because the pieces fit his personal philosophy). The same group of Seahawks wouldn't be near as dominant under sayyy Greg Schiano. Coaches NEED roster input when you're hiring them for their tactical vision. Otherwise, hire a motivational speaker.
- DrChristianTroy

Props to Shero if these reported negotiations are legit, in the back of his mind he might already be willing to give up Pouliot, 1st and Sutter or something similar but is trying to see if he can get it done before it gets to that point. Well done.
- Nucker101

I hope he's at least able to negotiate Bennett into the deal, on top of what's been discussed.

Would still be a bad deal, IMO, but at least there's a F prospect with some top-6 potential involved...

The Sens are shopping Spezza. Why dont we go after him!?
- vancity787

He's in my pool, I don't want him to go to a team that averages 1 goal a game.

The Sens are shopping Spezza. Why dont we go after him!?
- vancity787

(frank) no! Lets make the core older, slower and more expensive! This season is done for the Canucks(even the playoffs are a long shot now) and he only has one year left after. He's not the same player, still pretty damn good but a horrible fit for the Canucks current situation.

Makes sense. Let Jensen continue his good play and continue to build confidence right now. No sense bringing him up to the Canucks so that he can damage the confidence he's built up over the past few months.
- KB3Point0

Oh, I prefer they keep Jensen down.

Just surprised they feel Archie deserves a call up, because his play hasn't been good.

Pelletier or Feriero (sp?) have both been considerably better. There are a few others I'd bring up over him as well, based on recent play.

Makes sense. Let Jensen continue his good play and continue to build confidence right now. No sense bringing him up to the Canucks so that he can damage the confidence he's built up over the past few months.
- KB3Point0

As much as I would love to see Jensen in the line up I have to agree that this is the best scenario.

BS. Pete Carroll is one of the best Head Coaches I've ever witnessed in any sport/any league. He had ZERO success while he was at the mercy of some other guy's roster build. Then went to USC with full control & built a dynasty... Came back to the NFL with the same power and has built the best roster top to bottom that I've ever seen with the Seahawks (because the pieces fit his personal philosophy). The same group of Seahawks wouldn't be near as dominant under sayyy Greg Schiano. Coaches NEED roster input when you're hiring them for their tactical vision. Otherwise, hire a motivational speaker.
- DrChristianTroy

I completely agree... which makes you wonder who is calling the shots. Is the ownership group involved?

I think coaches should work hand in hand with the GM and work towards building a team that fits the coaches mold, not the GMs. Its terrible to watch otherwise

I hope he's at least able to negotiate Bennett into the deal, on top of what's been discussed.

Would still be a bad deal, IMO, but at least there's a F prospect with some top-6 potential involved...
- Fosco

I've seen some posters at HF mention that Gillis is pretty high on him, wonder where they got that info from. Was he high on the entry draft ranking list that went public a few years ago or something?


I say hold Kesler, wait until the draft when more teams have flexibility and you could have more desperate teams after playoff disappointments. But who knows what offers Gillis is getting right now, we can only speculate and I don't fully buy into this "only 4 teams that he'll go" stuff until I hear Lebrun/Mac/Freidman report it.