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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 4 @ 6:40 PM ET
He was
- CaptEO


Take no prisoners and eat the wounded. I like it.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 4 @ 6:40 PM ET
Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN 1m
Raffl to Phantoms until rosters expand; Heeter returns to back up Mason tomorrow, Flyers say

Raffl

- hereticpride

Emery apparently still hurt
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Mar 4 @ 6:40 PM ET
Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN 1m
Raffl to Phantoms until rosters expand; Heeter returns to back up Mason tomorrow, Flyers say

Raffl

- hereticpride

Rafflfries will be back for tomorrow night's game.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 4 @ 6:40 PM ET
Take no prisoners and eat the wounded. I like it.
- tangent_man

ultraman is the MAN
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 6:40 PM ET
Yep, at the very least, MacDonald is a mobile guy. I have an open mind on him, will probably spent some time tonight watching video of him.
- Jsaquella


I feel like he'll be better in a more limited role. Imagine Matt Carle logging big minutes as a #1? It would be a disaster. As a 2nd pairing guy, he's a nice addition. I'm hoping MacDonald can be like that.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 6:41 PM ET
Rafflfries will be back for tomorrow night's game.
- Deasr1


Nice and tired from a long car ride to sign his name.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 4 @ 6:41 PM ET
ultraman is the MAN
- Marc D


Respect the man with the Beta capsule.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Mar 4 @ 6:41 PM ET
Emery apparently still hurt
- Marc D

Probably why there was even talk of Halak.....Vanak, Halak, Myers for....Baby Schenn....nutrigrain bar....6 pack of Red Stripe?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 6:42 PM ET
Neither Grossmann, nor the assets you could accumulate from trading him, would be very enticing to a team with an Edler, Byfuglien, Yandle, etc to sell, though.

Coburn ++ might be able to get you close.

(Of course, I would rather not move Coburn)

- Tomahawk


Im talking more about a move of Grossmann for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Try and recoup some picks.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 4 @ 6:42 PM ET
It just seems rare for a young guy to be traded so much. He's gone from being a major piece to major deals to being had for a 2nd rounder.
- PhillySportsGuy

could be similar to whats going on with joe morrow
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 4 @ 6:43 PM ET
So Ehlers has 7 goals and 2 assists in his last 7 periods for Halifax. Lets, um, let's get him.
- PhillySportsGuy


Including tonight he has 20 points in the last 7 games.

I'd like him but his stock is soaring right now
Roytastic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 06.18.2013

Mar 4 @ 6:43 PM ET
Probably why there was even talk of Halak.....Vanak, Halak, Myers for....Baby Schenn....nutrigrain bar....6 pack of Red Stripe?
- Deasr1



Downgrade that to a Nature's Valley Granola bar and a six pack of Rainier and you got yourself a deal.


Edit: Oh wait.. you east coasters might not know what Rainier beer is.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 4 @ 6:44 PM ET
Im talking more about a move of Grossmann for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Try and recoup some picks.
- PhillySportsGuy



By all means.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 6:44 PM ET
could be similar to whats going on with joe morrow
- stayinthefnnet


Yea. There are a number of defensman who develop at different paces, but most good defenseman demonstrate glimpses of what they could be in the NHL.

Not sure if Rundblad hasn't gotten the opportunity or just hasn't taken advantage of the opportunity.

I just don't understand the outrage over not acquiring him. Its not like the Bruins traded Dougie Hamilton for a 2nd.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Mar 4 @ 6:45 PM ET
Downgrade that to a Nature's Valley Granola bar and a six pack of Rainier and you got yourself a deal.
- Roytastic

Sierra Nevada...and we are good.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 6:45 PM ET
Including tonight he has 20 points in the last 7 games.

I'd like him but his stock is soaring right now

- ob18


If the Stars get him, they will be the most exciting team for the next 5-7 years.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 4 @ 6:46 PM ET
Yea. There are a number of defensman who develop at different paces, but most good defenseman demonstrate glimpses of what they could be in the NHL.

Not sure if Rundblad hasn't gotten the opportunity or just hasn't taken advantage of the opportunity.

I just don't understand the outrage over not acquiring him. Its not like the Bruins traded Dougie Hamilton for a 2nd.

- PhillySportsGuy

because puck moving right handed defenseman!

don't let the fact that he can't crack the Coyotes line up enter into this
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 4 @ 6:46 PM ET
Im talking more about a move of Grossmann for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Try and recoup some picks.
- PhillySportsGuy


Wish whatever we did would happen tonight, so they could at least know the pairings for the morning skate tomorrow -- the Washington game tomorrow night is pretty damn important in the scheme of things
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 6:47 PM ET
By all means.
- Tomahawk


Believe it or not but playoff teams still value a physical, defensive defenseman. His cap hit isn't a killer either. 3rd pairing defenseman will be getting comparable deals this offseason. Maybe even more.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Mar 4 @ 6:47 PM ET
Yea. There are a number of defensman who develop at different paces, but most good defenseman demonstrate glimpses of what they could be in the NHL.

Not sure if Rundblad hasn't gotten the opportunity or just hasn't taken advantage of the opportunity.

I just don't understand the outrage over not acquiring him. Its not like the Bruins traded Dougie Hamilton for a 2nd.

- PhillySportsGuy


the outrage is over philosophies, values and payments, not necessarily Mac or Rundblad as individuals. Unless there is another deal in the works that makes this make sense, the Flyers don't really "need" MacDonald and paid a pretty penny to get him. They need puckmovers. And one was ripe for the picking at low risk/high reward prices.

I hope Mac is a good player for us, but I would like to see them address what I see as a need. But admittedly, I'm just a guy typing in here.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 6:48 PM ET
Wish whatever we did would happen tonight, so they could at least know the pairings for the morning skate tomorrow -- the Washington game tomorrow night is pretty damn important in the scheme of things
- AllInForFlyers


If they acquire a guy, he won't be playing tomorrow night, most likely.

The Caps are lucky to have the great Penner fit into their lineup at practice tomorrow. A character guy for a character team!
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Mar 4 @ 6:49 PM ET
Wish whatever we did would happen tonight, so they could at least know the pairings for the morning skate tomorrow -- the Washington game tomorrow night is pretty damn important in the scheme of things
- AllInForFlyers


agreed.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 4 @ 6:49 PM ET
because puck moving right handed defenseman!

don't let the fact that he can't crack the Coyotes line up enter into this

- Marc D


Lots of guys don't crack lineups with their original teams and go on to be very good players...the list is too long to name, and yes, there are more players who don't make it, but just because the guy didn't crack Phoenix's lineup doesn't mean much, at 23 years of age

Braydon Coburn wouldn't be here if he had cracked Atlanta's lineup
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 6:50 PM ET
the outrage is over philosophies, values and payments, not necessarily Mac or Rundblad as individuals. Unless there is another deal in the works that makes this make sense, the Flyers don't really "need" MacDonald and paid a pretty penny to get him. They need puckmovers. And one was ripe for the picking at low risk/high reward prices.

I hope Mac is a good player for us, but I would like to see them address what I see as a need. But admittedly, I'm just a guy typing in here.

- wilsonecho91


They do need guys like MacDonald. He's a two-way defenseman with mobility. This team is in dire need of defenseman who can do more than one good thing.

The Flyers aren't really in the position to break in a good defenseman. You want to pair Rundblad with Schenn or Grossman or Streit or Mez?
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Mar 4 @ 6:52 PM ET
Wish whatever we did would happen tonight, so they could at least know the pairings for the morning skate tomorrow -- the Washington game tomorrow night is pretty damn important in the scheme of things
- AllInForFlyers

I could see Washington coming to town tomorrow pissed and handing us a little whooping. Especially if we make a deal during the day tomorrow and we are short scoring or dmen.
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