it's just as easy to sit here and comment on the trade that they did make. I could list names (Ehrhoff, Edler, Yandle, etc.; or seek less experienced guys like Vatanen who is allegedly on the block), and of course they would cost more, but if I'm making moves for a dman, those are the moves I am exploring. Andrew MacDonald is a free agent this year. He is not the piece (I don't think and lord know I hope I'm wrong) that will get them over any kind of hump. They did not need to trade a 2nd and a 3rd for him right now imo.

at this point though, they did and I'm a fan of the Flyers and so I hope it was a good move.
- wilsonecho91

Im not sold on the move either. I just don't think it's as bad as people think. I think MacDonald will be a solid addition as long as he plays 2nd pairing minutes. I would like to see him re-signed and have the Flyers make a trade to help recoup some picks.

giving up 2 picks for spare parts
didn't work out for grossman
didn't work out for kubina
and so on

why not keep those (frank)ing picks and draft your own players
- 2Real

agreed or at least use them in a bigger overall package to acquire a better player. All of this just makes me wish they had signed Carle.

we have a few two-way defensemen. And if we need more, and are going to pay a guy nearly $5M for more than 3 years, which is what is being bandied about, I want more than Andy MacDonald. We need to get rid of our one dimensional shot blocking, hot-potato defenseman and pick up some real talent. And we need to use our assets in a smart way to better achieve that.
- wilsonecho91

Agree 100%. Homer loves those stay at home defencemen, as in "staying at home" watching somebody else lift the cup.

- 2Real

Giroux, Couts and Morin for Couture and Nieto.

giving up 2 picks for spare parts
didn't work out for grossman
didn't work out for kubina
and so on

why not keep those (frank)ing picks and draft your own players
- 2Real

I don't know if I'd say it didn't work out for Grossmann.. That pairing of him and Coburn in the series against the Pens was pretty huge.

giving up 2 picks for spare parts
didn't work out for grossman
didn't work out for kubina
and so on

why not keep those (frank)ing picks and draft your own players
- 2Real

There is a good chance we make the big dance this year. Homer has to at least attempted to sure up the blue line somewhat. Plus there could be a bigger move on the way, There was some talk about a one-eyed round robin 6 way trade for keys of coke and maybe a pound of Kesler or something.

I don't know if I'd say it didn't work out for Grossmann.. That pairing of him and Coburn in the series against the Pens was pretty huge.
- Roytastic

But, like, we need more goals and stuff.

This is ridiculous. Ehlers has 3 hat tricks in a row. This is video game poop.

agreed or at least use them in a bigger overall package to acquire a better player. All of this just makes me wish they had signed Carle.
- wilsonecho91

Maybe they are doing something bigger? Who knows. I will wait to judge until tomorrow afternoon.

And in other news, water is wet...

- FlyersGrace

Hey..

Maybe they are doing something bigger? Who knows. I will wait to judge until tomorrow afternoon.
- funmaster18

there's no fun in waiting to judge. I want to judge now. it's helping me do absolutely zero work today despite being at work.

But, like, we need more goals and stuff.
- PhillySportsGuy

Grossman is the only d-man that has any nastiness. Although in the playoffs, Coburn's nose gets an attitude and the rest of him just follows it around like Tucan Sam.

Giroux for Couture
- PhillySportsGuy

Nikolaj Ehlers 3rd straight game with a hat trick a projected 2nd round pick when the season started now a very likely top 10 pick.

Grossman is the only d-man that has any nastiness. Although in the playoffs, Coburn's nose gets an attitude and the rest of him just follows it around like Tucan Sam.
- Deasr1

L. Schenn has some nastiness.

Grossman is the only d-man that has any nastiness. Although in the playoffs, Coburn's nose gets an attitude and the rest of him just follows it around like Tucan Sam.
- Deasr1

Schenn has an edge too. I think having Coburn, Schenn and Grossmann is redundant. I would be open to moving Grossmann now that they have MacDonald. MacDonald can play on the PK.

L. Schenn has some nastiness.
- wilsonecho91

Only when Baby Schenn is a boards sammich

Nikolaj Ehlers 3rd straight game with a hat trick a projected 2nd round pick when the season started now a very likely top 10 pick.
- ob18

LEIGHT! But seriously, this is ridiculous. He has 9 goals in the last 8 period.

Edit: So when does Halifax stop playing Drouin in this game?

Hey..


- mayorofangrytown

Pfft. You love me!

Only when Baby Schenn is a boards sammich
- Deasr1

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Well he will get the ladies going

LEIGHT! But seriously, this is ridiculous. He has 9 goals in the last 8 period.
- PhillySportsGuy

If there is 1 kid anybody can watch make it him.

Nikolaj Ehlers 3rd straight game with a hat trick a projected 2nd round pick when the season started now a very likely top 10 pick.
- ob18

that's ridiculous.

that's ridiculous.
- wilsonecho91

He's become my favorite to watch in this draft

If there is 1 kid anybody can watch make it him.
- ob18

So when do they stop playing Drouin in this game?

we have a few two-way defensemen. And if we need more, and are going to pay a guy nearly $5M for more than 3 years, which is what is being bandied about, I want more than Andy MacDonald. We need to get rid of our one dimensional shot blocking, hot-potato defenseman and pick up some real talent. And we need to use our assets in a smart way to better achieve that.
- wilsonecho91

Trade Grossmann at the draft for a pick if he isn't traded tomorrow. Sign Niskanen.

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Brayden Schenn ($3.000m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Michael Raffl ($0.735m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Matt Read ($3.625m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Scott Laughton ($0.894m) / Adam Hall ($0.600m)
DEFENSEMEN
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Matt Niskanen ($5.250m)
Andrew MacDonald ($4.500m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Erik Gustafsson ($1.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Chris Pronger ($4.941m) /
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.850m)
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