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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 9:43 PM ET
That is a shame... lol I think it will come to him eventually, problem is I dont think it will be with the Orange and Black.
- justahockeyguy2


I think it will be. They've married themselves to him. They can't trade him now for cents on the dollar. Just ride it out and hope he finds the consistency.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 4 @ 9:44 PM ET
Yea. I think it will take $5M. The market for defenseman is going to be crazy. It might be better off for the Flyers to make the deal now rather than wait for FA.
- PhillySportsGuy

agreed ... plus the fact that the Flyers should be able to recoup a 2nd or 3rd for Mez or Grossmann makes this deal a very good one, imo.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 9:45 PM ET
The Isles only shopped him because he didn't want to re-sign.
- Jsaquella


Its shocking that another player didn't want to re-sign with the Islanders.

By the way, other than Tavares, is MacDonald the Isles best draft pick of the last 8 years? He was a 6th round pick on a team with a punch of top 10 picks. Pathetic franchise.
justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Mar 4 @ 9:46 PM ET
I think it will be. They've married themselves to him. They can't trade him now for cents on the dollar. Just ride it out and hope he finds the consistency.
- PhillySportsGuy


And if that is the case, I dont think Baby Schenn is going anywhere. They wont split up the Schenn Bros, in my opinion anyway
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 9:47 PM ET
agreed ... plus the fact that the Flyers should be able to recoup a 2nd or 3rd for Mez or Grossmann makes this deal a very good one, imo.
- FlyerGuy


I would really like to see them recoup some picks as well. I just don't know what the market will be for Mez and Grossmann. Once again Homer has boxed himself into a situation where teams KNOW he wants to unload a defenseman. At least this time he doesn't HAVE TO unload a player.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 9:47 PM ET
And if that is the case, I dont think Baby Schenn is going anywhere. They wont split up the Schenn Bros, in my opinion anyway
- justahockeyguy2


They shouldn't. I like Brayden as a #2C center. He's looking good this year. I even like his defensive play of late. Winning board battles in his own end.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 4 @ 9:48 PM ET
He came in and did a decent job before getting hurt!
- PhillySportsGuy

heh.. I read this as 'he came in and did a decent job of getting hurt'. I think I like it better my way.


OK --- time to lay off the booze.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 4 @ 9:48 PM ET
And if that is the case, I dont think Baby Schenn is going anywhere. They wont split up the Schenn Bros, in my opinion anyway
- justahockeyguy2

if they can split up the Sutters they can split up the Schenns.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 4 @ 9:49 PM ET
I would really like to see them recoup some picks as well. I just don't know what the market will be for Mez and Grossmann. Once again Homer has boxed himself into a situation where teams KNOW he wants to unload a defenseman. At least this time he doesn't HAVE TO unload a player.
- PhillySportsGuy


The entire League knew that the Islanders were going to trade McDonald.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 4 @ 9:51 PM ET
They shouldn't. I like Brayden as a #2C center. He's looking good this year. I even like his defensive play of late. Winning board battles in his own end.
- PhillySportsGuy

The kid's having a breakout season no question. He's still learning too. You can see it.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 4 @ 9:51 PM ET
agreed ... plus the fact that the Flyers should be able to recoup a 2nd or 3rd for Mez or Grossmann makes this deal a very good one, imo.
- FlyerGuy



This I agree with. Also to piggyback - I think the biggest thing this D needs is a shakeup, or more of a complete overhaul, and this is the first step. I feel like our dmen are square pegs and our defensive system consist of round holes.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 4 @ 9:52 PM ET
This I agree with. Also to piggyback - I think the biggest thing this D needs is a shakeup, or more of a complete overhaul, and this is the first step. I feel like our dmen are square pegs and our defensive system consist of round holes.
- moylander


I think they need one player at this point. But it has to be the right player, for the right cost.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 4 @ 9:52 PM ET
Also remember his savage compete level against the Penguins 2 seasons ago during the stretch run and the 1st round? He had some unreal shifts.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 4 @ 9:53 PM ET
I think they need one player at this point. But it has to be the right player, for the right cost.
- MJL



lol... yeah the elusive #1 or #2 dman.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 4 @ 9:54 PM ET
Its shocking that another player didn't want to re-sign with the Islanders.

By the way, other than Tavares, is MacDonald the Isles best draft pick of the last 8 years? He was a 6th round pick on a team with a punch of top 10 picks. Pathetic franchise.

- PhillySportsGuy


In terms of value, maybe. Okposo has turned into a good one. Travis Hamonic is a good player, too...but that's a 1st & 2nd round
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Mar 4 @ 9:54 PM ET
People should be happy with the Price to get MacDonald. You know what Gillis wants for Edler? A Young NHL Proven Dman, top forward prospect and 1st round pick! Gillis is high if he thinks someone is biting on that. Guy is a career minus player on a winning team known for low scoring games (Not winning this year but Van has been president trophy winner how many times?) I'll be surprised if Gillis is not fired. Guy is horrible not only at overvaluing his players but his overall plan is destroying that team
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 4 @ 9:55 PM ET
lol... yeah the elusive #1 or #2 dman.
- moylander


Exactly. Don't ask me how. I don't know.
justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Mar 4 @ 9:56 PM ET
If you expect the Flyers to make any breath taking trades tomorrow, you better bet its going to be some D/picks/prospects. I dont think Homer is going to give up his young core of Schenn and Couturier. There is an overload in the organization at C..
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 4 @ 9:57 PM ET
People should be happy with the Price to get MacDonald. You know what Gillis wants for Edler? A Young NHL Proven Dman, top forward prospect and 1st round pick! Gillis is high if he thinks someone is biting on that. Guy is a career minus player on a winning team known for low scoring games (Not winning this year but Van has been president trophy winner how many times?) I'll be surprised if Gillis is not fired. Guy is horrible not only at overvaluing his players but his overall plan is destroying that team
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Gillis is looking to hit home runs here. He's not fully committed to trading those players, unless he get's an extreme overpayment. Edler is not a career minus player.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 4 @ 9:58 PM ET
If you expect the Flyers to make any breath taking trades tomorrow, you better bet its going to be some D/picks/prospects. I dont think Homer is going to give up his young core of Schenn and Couturier. There is an overload in the organization at C..
- justahockeyguy2

yeah. i think the mcdonald thing is the biggest splash either PA team makes.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 4 @ 9:59 PM ET
People should be happy with the Price to get MacDonald. You know what Gillis wants for Edler? A Young NHL Proven Dman, top forward prospect and 1st round pick! Gillis is high if he thinks someone is biting on that. Guy is a career minus player on a winning team known for low scoring games (Not winning this year but Van has been president trophy winner how many times?) I'll be surprised if Gillis is not fired. Guy is horrible not only at overvaluing his players but his overall plan is destroying that team
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Well, Edler is a significantly better player.

And what the Hell is up with that beard on Gillis?
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 4 @ 10:06 PM ET
Well, Edler is a significantly better player.

And what the Hell is up with that beard on Gillis?

- Jsaquella


It's his evil twin from another dimensiondimension
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 4 @ 10:08 PM ET
It's his evil twin from another dimensiondimension
- Flyersgod


Looks like a cut rate pornographer
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Mar 4 @ 10:10 PM ET
You guys should read the Isles board. I checked it out. They are blasting A Mac. They seem to think he is a 5/6 defenseman on a good team. I dont know a ton about him but that doesnt seem right...
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 4 @ 10:13 PM ET
You guys should read the Isles board. I checked it out. They are blasting A Mac. They seem to think he is a 5/6 defenseman on a good team. I dont know a ton about him but that doesnt seem right...
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

They also blasted Streit once they realized he wasnt going to re-sign.
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