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flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Mar 4 @ 10:46 AM ET
Matt Read is too important to this team to trade for Buff. I would trade him for a better D-man, but Buff is not him. Not saying that Buff is a bad player by any means, I just don't think we could do better if we have to trade Read. In my opinion.
- Deasr1


Is this sarcasm? You wouldn't trade for a #1 dman like Buff b/c of a 3rd line forward like Matt Read?
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Mar 4 @ 10:46 AM ET
IMO, nothing beats 'shoe-in' -- freaking hilarious every time.
- Tomahawk


Unrelated but you just reminded me of something... my friend thought for about 15 years that the thing you use to help get your shoe on was in fact called a "Shoe-on" rather than a Shoe-horn. His relatives were from Arkansas, so maybe their accent threw him off. I couldn't stop laughing when he said the word and I corrected him... and he was in shock.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 4 @ 10:47 AM ET
So if the Flyers don't trade for Mason last season. Nichushkin is a Flyer, right?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 4 @ 10:48 AM ET
So if the Flyers don't trade for Mason last season. Nichushkin is a Flyer, right?
- Pixote Andolini

Nope, he was really far down their draft board.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 4 @ 10:48 AM ET
Is this sarcasm? You wouldn't trade for a #1 dman like Buff b/c of a 3rd line forward like Matt Read?
- flyguy12


Matt Read is a 3rd line forward who's good for 20 goals a season, plays top PK minutes, can play on any line at any position, plays on the PP, and is probably the fastest skater on the team.

So, for a "3rd line forward like Matt Read", no. For a 3rd line forward like last season's Gagne, sure.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 4 @ 10:48 AM ET
Is this sarcasm? You wouldn't trade for a #1 dman like Buff b/c of a 3rd line forward like Matt Read?
- flyguy12

Read +picks +other prospects isn't going to land you a top Dman. Maybe a top 9 fwd, but then why move Reader + for a top 9 player in the 1st place?
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 4 @ 10:49 AM ET
So if the Flyers don't trade for Mason last season. Nichushkin is a Flyer, right?
- Pixote Andolini


Seth Jones might be.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 4 @ 10:49 AM ET
So if the Flyers don't trade for Mason last season. Nichushkin is a Flyer, right?
- Pixote Andolini


Just remember, if they just told all of their players and their coach to throw the last 11 games or so, they'd have Seth Jones and that great "It's okay to lose sometimes" attitude.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 4 @ 10:49 AM ET
So if the Flyers don't trade for Mason last season. Nichushkin is a Flyer, right?
- Pixote Andolini

SO THEN IT WAS MASON'S FAULT WE WON THOSE MEANINGLESS GAMES

GET HIM!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 4 @ 10:50 AM ET
Seth Jones might be.
- SchennBros


It would have taken a lot more than that to land Jones.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 4 @ 10:50 AM ET
Is this sarcasm? You wouldn't trade for a #1 dman like Buff b/c of a 3rd line forward like Matt Read?
- flyguy12

Just cause he is a 3rd liner on our team doesn't mean he's a 3rd line player. Kimmo is our #1 dman, but he is not a #1 dman. I'm not even sure if Buff is a #1 dman.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 4 @ 10:50 AM ET
In Key West, workin on my second bloody mary. Any trade news yet?
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 4 @ 10:51 AM ET
Nope, he was really far down their draft board.
- JAKEw1234

Well that doesn't instill much confidence in the Flyers scouting group.
Kid's a stud and has superstar written all over him.
But what do I know, I'm just a fan.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 4 @ 10:51 AM ET
Unrelated but you just reminded me of something... my friend thought for about 15 years that the thing you use to help get your shoe on was in fact called a "Shoe-on" rather than a Shoe-horn. His relatives were from Arkansas, so maybe their accent threw him off. I couldn't stop laughing when he said the word and I corrected him... and he was in shock.
- ThirdEye



'Nuff said.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 4 @ 10:51 AM ET
Read +picks +other prospects isn't going to land you a top Dman. Maybe a top 9 fwd, but then why move Reader + for a top 9 player in the 1st place?
- Pixote Andolini

For the standard "roster player + 1st rounder + prospect" template price that most top players go for, yes, Read will get you a top player in the right deal.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 4 @ 10:52 AM ET
For the standard "roster player + 1st rounder + prospect" template price that most top players go for, yes, Read will get you a top player in the right deal.
- JAKEw1234


Right, but we were discussing Fugly.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 4 @ 10:52 AM ET
Well that doesn't instill much confidence in the Flyers scouting group.
Kid's a stud and has superstar written all over him.
But what do I know, I'm just a fan.

- Pixote Andolini

Tons of teams passed him up cause of the Kovalchuk factor. It doesn't say anything about our scouting group.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 4 @ 10:53 AM ET
Tons of teams passed him up cause of the Kovalchuk factor. It doesn't say anything about our scouting group.
- JAKEw1234


It shows that Colorado, Carolina, Buffalo, and Nashville (and others) have no idea how to draft players, and that Dallas is the only competent drafters in the league.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 4 @ 10:53 AM ET
SO THEN IT WAS MASON'S FAULT WE WON THOSE MEANINGLESS GAMES

GET HIM!

- BulliesPhan87


Hahaha
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Mar 4 @ 10:55 AM ET
Downie was a key part of the 3rd line when the team started to get back on track in November. But since Christmas he's been god awful. No goals and 4 assists in 22 games, plus a truck load of bad penalties.

Trading him for a pick would improve the team right away.

- Feanor


or him getting healthy
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Mar 4 @ 10:56 AM ET
What about his game, aside from that short stretch, has shown you that he's capable of playing way out of a funk. He's actually been getting worse, and since the TDL, he's been even worse. I'd take any return for him. If we want a slow forward who won't win any board battles and will take stupid penalties, we can call up Newbury.
- jmatchett383



since the TDL? either you're in the future or i'm in the past...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 4 @ 10:57 AM ET
or him getting healthy
- -davies-


He hasn't been "healthy" in over 2 months. Doesn't instill a ton of confidence that it will magically happen.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 4 @ 10:57 AM ET
In Key West, workin on my second bloody mary. Any trade news yet?
- BiggE


Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Some interest in Flyers d-man Kimmo Timonen, but, told he wants to stay in Philadelphia. Meanwhile, asking price for Meszaros...2nd rnder.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 4 @ 10:57 AM ET
since the TDL? either you're in the future or i'm in the past...
- -davies-


Sorry, Olympic Break. My bad.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Mar 4 @ 10:57 AM ET
KESLER. FOR GODS SAKE, IT'S KESLER WITH ONE S!!!!

Sorry its been bothering me for a while. Everyone keeps doing it.

- PhillySportsGuy



weren't you one of the "downey" culprits?

lol
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