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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:47 PM ET
Ya, I don't see Mac as an offensive upgrade on the blue line. As a defensive and mobility upgrade, yes.
- JAKEw1234

who's he an upgrade over Gusty? certainly not
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 5 @ 3:47 PM ET
THIS was the day that would lead to that!?!?
- jmatchett383

Seems like a pretty good time to me, no offense to previous opportunities.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 5 @ 3:47 PM ET
He's nowhere near as good as these guys:

http://www.capgeek.com/co...player_id=26&year_id=2014

- Tomahawk

When did those guys sign their current deals? The cap is going up and it's taking the average salary with it.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 5 @ 3:47 PM ET
THIS was the day that would lead to that!?!?
- jmatchett383


Id be concerned about his drafts and the original Vanek trade than this trade.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:47 PM ET
when mez was on the ice a lot of goals are scored...
at both ends of the ice

he is EXCITEMENT

- Marc D

mez +1 macdonald -19
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 5 @ 3:48 PM ET
That's a factor, just don't think Collberg's a stellar prospect. he's not garbage, but he's a project.
- Jsaquella



Yeah, definitely no slam dunk, but the kid is ultra-skilled.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 5 @ 3:48 PM ET
So Holmgren paid more for MacDonald, than the Habs paid for Vanek. Cool!
- PLindbergh31


He paid less than the Pens paid for Murray last year.

Snow just totally botched the Moulson/Vanek trade.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 5 @ 3:48 PM ET
who's he an upgrade over Gusty? certainly not
- 2Real

Defensively? Gus, Mez, Streit, maybe Schenn.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 5 @ 3:48 PM ET
Depending on how deep the Bruins get in playoffs, Meszaros pick can jump to 2nd round.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
Garth Snow should be fired.
- BulliesPhan87


Doesn't getting close to equal value for a 4/5 dman type, and a first line scoring winger make Snow a magician?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
mez +1 macdonald -19
- 2Real


Well that settles it right there.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
mez +1 macdonald -19
- 2Real

Mez was getting 3rd pairing assignments. MacDonald was getting 25 minutes a game against top lines on a poor defensive team.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
He's nowhere near as good as these guys:

http://www.capgeek.com/co...player_id=26&year_id=2014

- Tomahawk


With the cap going up, I think offers will be very high this offseason. If they can lock him up for $4M before the offseason, I'd be ok with that.

Edit: I want to see him play a few games first though
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
Wow...Isles blog should be fun..


"The entire staff from the owner to the coaching staff needs to be removed. What Garth Snow brought back for Thomas Vanek is the type of return that you should lose your job over. It's really that simple. "
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
Defensively? Gus, Mez, Streit, maybe Schenn.
- JAKEw1234

mez was always in and out of the line up and always injured
can't compare him the streit cause we all know he is in for his bomb of a shot
i'd be surprised if mac donald can pass better than gusty
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
He's worth more than $3M! Grossmann gets $3.5. Take a look at the market. He's worth $4-4.5M IMO
- PhillySportsGuy

Six years, 27-30 million, count on it
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Mar 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
You guys realize that you could wait 4 hours to see if MacDonald is better than player A,B,C as opposed to talking out of your ass about a player that you've never watched for longer than 1 minute, right?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
mez 17 points 38 games
macdonald 24 points 63 games and we lost a 2nd round pick
hilarious and mac donald is a UFA

- 2Real


Even though MacDonald is going to look terrible in a Flyers uniform, he will be the new scapegoat, Meszaros will be a UFA and makes 3.5M more. Neither guy will or would of made a difference until many other things change.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
Tim Panaccio
@tpanotchCSN
2014 pick for Meszaros is conditional in FLyers favor. Could be a better pick and also could get another pick, too.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
So what's the consensus? Flyers do good? Flyers do bad? Flyers do middle?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
mez 17 points 38 games
macdonald 24 points 63 games and we lost a 2nd round pick
hilarious and mac donald is a UFA

- 2Real


Mez is a defenseman who can't play defense anymore and would not have been resigned.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
When did those guys sign their current deals? The cap is going up and it's taking the average salary with it.
- JAKEw1234



Some of those were pretty recent. Vlasic, McDonagh are fresh... A-Mac isn't anywhere near their league.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
Depending on how deep the Bruins get in playoffs, Meszaros pick can jump to 2nd round.
- Jsaquella


Best case (dream) scenario. Flyers face off against Bruins in ECF. Game 7, OT, AMac's shot deflects off of Meszaros and in. Bruins in ECF make pick a 2nd.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
Depending on how deep the Bruins get in playoffs, Meszaros pick can jump to 2nd round.
- Jsaquella


Good. I can root for them to beat the Pens if they play.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
Really interested to see what the conditions on the pick traded for Mez are.
- Giroux_Is_God

supposedly won't release the details of the picks until after they talk with the NHL office later tonight
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