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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:22 PM ET
If true: Moulson for 2014 2nd, 2016 3rd, Mitchell

Vanek for a 2014 2nd and Collberg.

I'd say that's pretty damn good compared to what Vanek got.

- Cheeseballin


We did lose McMuscle but still if thats the official trade I would think TM did very well with a dumpster fire of a roster with 3 (then 4) pending UFA's and traded them all and got a good return
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 5 @ 4:22 PM ET
John Vogl ‏@BuffNewsVogl 14s
The Wild's draft picks coming back to Buffalo in Matt Moulson trade are a second-rounder in 2014 and second-rounder in 2016, source says

- burner087



decent return.
Jawallstar1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: John Scott gets on a plane: 10 minutes for Boarding, FL
Joined: 02.27.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:22 PM ET
What's the cap floor at next year, is it $35M?
- mhp

Gonna be between $49-$51M
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Mar 5 @ 4:22 PM ET
Two second rounders, one this year for Moulson.

All is well.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:22 PM ET
decent return.
- mhp


better than what NYI got for Vanek
Jawallstar1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: John Scott gets on a plane: 10 minutes for Boarding, FL
Joined: 02.27.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:23 PM ET
If it's a 2014 2nd from Minnesota, it originally belonged to Winnipeg. We own their this year already (Pommer).
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 5 @ 4:23 PM ET
better than what NYI got for Vanek
- Stripes77



definitely.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Mar 5 @ 4:23 PM ET
Great pickup compared to Vanek deal and got two 2nds back:

@BuffNewsVogl 2m
The Wild's draft picks coming back to Buffalo in Matt Moulson trade are a second-rounder in 2014 and second-rounder in 2016, source says
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:23 PM ET
Moulson was not going to sign here.
- sippyd

I suspect the same thing Sippy.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Mar 5 @ 4:23 PM ET
better than what NYI got for Vanek
- Stripes77


The main piece in the Vanek trade was Collberg though.
jaumiller
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ask not what Matt Ellis can do for you, ask what can you do for Matt Ellis. , NY
Joined: 12.06.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:24 PM ET
better than what NYI got for Vanek
- Stripes77

We are about the same number of pics that what we started with.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Mar 5 @ 4:24 PM ET
And we got Neuvrith and Klesla back for Halak?

That works.
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Mar 5 @ 4:24 PM ET
better than what NYI got for Vanek
- Stripes77


Which is hilarious
Jawallstar1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: John Scott gets on a plane: 10 minutes for Boarding, FL
Joined: 02.27.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:24 PM ET
I imagine it breaks down to McCormick for Mitchell and Moulson for 2 2nds. Not bad, Tim. Not bad.
Orphen22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Well...that just happend., NY
Joined: 06.24.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:24 PM ET
John Vogl ‏@BuffNewsVogl 3m

The Wild's draft picks coming back to Buffalo in Matt Moulson trade are a second-rounder in 2014 and second-rounder in 2016, source says
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mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 5 @ 4:25 PM ET
Gonna be between $49-$51M
- Jawallstar1



Not sure why I was thinking $35M.

$51M seems about right. We would need to spend $15M ti get to the floor.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:25 PM ET
I'll take it.

John Vogl ‏@BuffNewsVogl 4m
The Wild's draft picks coming back to Buffalo in Matt Moulson trade are a second-rounder in 2014 and second-rounder in 2016, source says
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Mar 5 @ 4:25 PM ET
I imagine it breaks down to McCormick for Mitchell and Moulson for 2 2nds. Not bad, Tim. Not bad.
- Jawallstar1


BUT WE LOST 2 SCEONDS EARLIER TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jaumiller
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ask not what Matt Ellis can do for you, ask what can you do for Matt Ellis. , NY
Joined: 12.06.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:25 PM ET
And we got Neuvrith and Klesla back for Halak?

That works.

- nfph

And conacher who had the same amount of even strength goals as moulson for free.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 5 @ 4:26 PM ET
So they gave LA 2 2nds for the prospects they acquired (and Brayden McNabb), and got the 2 2nds back from MN, which will most likely be slightly better positions.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 5 @ 4:26 PM ET
And we got Neuvrith and Klesla back for Halak?

That works.

- nfph



Definitely. I'd call this day a win.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Mar 5 @ 4:26 PM ET
And conacher who had the same amount of even strength goals as moulson for free.
- jaumiller

Good point, that was a decent waiver wire pickup.
Jawallstar1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: John Scott gets on a plane: 10 minutes for Boarding, FL
Joined: 02.27.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:28 PM ET
So they gave LA 2 2nds for the prospects they acquired (and Brayden McNabb), and got the 2 2nds back from MN, which will most likely be slightly better positions.
- buffalofan19

The Minnesota 2014 2nd was Winnipeg's (we own MINs already). Even better position.
jaumiller
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ask not what Matt Ellis can do for you, ask what can you do for Matt Ellis. , NY
Joined: 12.06.2012

Mar 5 @ 4:28 PM ET
Good point, that was a decent waiver wire pickup.
- nfph

I think today was a good day.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Mar 5 @ 4:28 PM ET
Definitely. I'd call this day a win.
- Buffalo-Sabres

Not a home run, but we did pretty well.

By the way, TM is locked into the NHL old boys network - and he's made what I would call equitable trades with St Louis, Washington and the Wild here. It's not a bad thing to develop trust and relationships with other GMs.

I don't count Snow because a) that wasn't TM's trade and b) he can't possibly be a GM still next year.




Can he?
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